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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 29, 2020 17:04:24 GMT
Sickener - we'd arguably have stolen not earned 2 more vital points if we'd held on but who cares? Plus points for keeping it tight again for the majority of the game, closing them down better than we did last time (altho for quality Luton really do belong on Wolstanton Marsh) but... was that really the extent of Mick's plan, did taking the game to them just not come into it after minute 9??
6 from me
add * if you were there please
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Post by raythesailor on Feb 29, 2020 17:05:56 GMT
Campbell for Voukes. Two points wasted.
5
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Post by nott1 on Feb 29, 2020 17:06:00 GMT
Three at best! Players 2 at best!
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 29, 2020 17:06:08 GMT
4
Awful mis-management....Gutless.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 17:06:19 GMT
0 Made changes to the starting team he didn't need to and made the wrong substitutions AGAIN ! He's fast becoming the most negative manager in our history when there's absolutely no need to have that mindset
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Post by Little Gary Patel on Feb 29, 2020 17:07:02 GMT
4 Dross. Went overly negative too early on.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Feb 29, 2020 17:07:37 GMT
4. Too negative against a team who were there for the taking and dropping Collins for Chester proved costly. Needed to bring Campbell on too.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 29, 2020 17:07:45 GMT
5
It worked against West Brom etc today it failed, I don't like the tactic tbh but if it keeps us in the league so be it.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 29, 2020 17:08:24 GMT
4. Too negative against a team who were there for the taking and dropping Collins for Chester proved costly. Needed to bring Campbell on too. Was it Chester for the pen? I thought it was Batth for some reason.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 29, 2020 17:08:46 GMT
5
Appalling second half, under the kosh by that load of dross, mother of Christ!!
Time wasting with 5 minutes to go plus injury time, negative approach and can’t understand why Gregory was brought on.
Bloody depressing
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Feb 29, 2020 17:08:58 GMT
5 far too negative but - MON wasn't the one who made a fucking useless challenge on a player going nowhere in our box on 90 minutes. Oh and FFS Jack dive to you left at least once in your career! Gouranga.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 29, 2020 17:09:49 GMT
5 It worked against West Brom etc today it failed, I don't like the tactic tbh but if it keeps us in the league so be it. You can understand it v WBA.....but....LUTON!!!....Come on!
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Post by sd22 on Feb 29, 2020 17:10:09 GMT
2.
Played well up to the goal, played well for a while afterwards. 70 mins onwards once we’d brought the double decker in, fucking abysmal.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 17:10:26 GMT
5 It worked against West Brom etc today it failed, I don't like the tactic tbh but if it keeps us in the league so be it. Luton aren't West Brom though. He shuts up shop halfway through the 2nd half,it's frankly embarrassing
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Post by jarvinski on Feb 29, 2020 17:10:49 GMT
Nil
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Post by saltydog on Feb 29, 2020 17:12:25 GMT
5 Appalling second half, under the kosh by that load of dross, mother of Christ!! Time wasting with 5 minutes to go plus injury time, negative approach and can’t understand why Gregory was brought on. Bloody depressing Agree! Time wasting was embarrassing! Summed our effort up. I’m so fuckin annoyed!!! Tactically inept! Luton are terrible but we made them look good. I am FED UP of seeing Ince in a stoke shirt!!!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 29, 2020 17:12:26 GMT
5 It worked against West Brom etc today it failed, I don't like the tactic tbh but if it keeps us in the league so be it. Luton aren't West Brom though. He shuts up shop halfway through the 2nd half,it's frankly embarrassing No they aren't and we should have gone at them more but I still get why he does it, we're shit and its more a risk letting them play than not, thats why we are where we are.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 29, 2020 17:12:37 GMT
3, very disappointed with the substitutions when we're under the cosh... We needed an outlet in Campbell, and got a headless chicken in Gregory!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 17:12:44 GMT
Starting line up was wank however we managed get in front. We offered fuck all else through the game but we’re clearly strong enough to hold out a piss poor side. He then changes it so we can literally do nothing else except sit in our own half and we get exactly what we deserve for negative wank tactics! It’s a huge fucking ZERO O’Neill as you cost us that with your negative shit subs that invited a pathetic team onto us.
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 29, 2020 17:13:32 GMT
2. He tried something, but that something was diabolically wank. Can't believe we just say back. Can't believe we have cousins playing, how bad is Chester? How diabolical are these tactics and how is Indi a left back? Butland had been bad for so so long, but we had a really good January correct?
I can see this going really really sour. This team are so unbelievably overpaid and overrated. Can we try a left back from the academy? At least they will be able to play left back?
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 29, 2020 17:14:08 GMT
I didn’t rate the side he picked at first, I think Ince is very lucky to still be in the side, he wastes chance after chance. Personally speaking I think he should have played Campbell up top but either left side or right side of a front 3 with Vokes through the middle.
That said we played well for 35 minutes and should have been 2 up (Ince again at fault).
Bit the subs for me lost us the 2 points. It was clear when the game was becoming open it was there for Campbell, but he first chose Gregory who is useless for the dangerous Vokes, then Thompson for our only other goal threat in Powell.
Fine margins I guess we hang on and he gets a 8, but it’s a 4 from me
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 17:14:11 GMT
Luton aren't West Brom though. He shuts up shop halfway through the 2nd half,it's frankly embarrassing No they aren't and we should have gone at them more but I still get why he does it, we're shit and its more a risk letting them play than not, thats why we are where we are. If it were any other manager we'd be saying he's bottled it.It's a good job he's got plenty of credit in the bank
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 17:15:10 GMT
2. He tried something, but that something was diabolically wank. Can't believe we just say back. Can't believe we have cousins playing, how bad is Chester? How diabolical are these tactics and how is Indi a left back? Butland had been bad for so so long, but we had a really good January correct? I can see this going really really sour. This team are so unbelievably overpaid and overrated. Can we try a left back from the academy? At least they will be able to play left back? Nothing wrong with Cousins,he's proving to be 1 of Jones's better signings
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 29, 2020 17:15:36 GMT
0 Set up and game management like Spain v NI, not Luton v Stoke.
Needs to take it to relegation rivals, not play for a draw from the off.
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 29, 2020 17:17:10 GMT
2. He tried something, but that something was diabolically wank. Can't believe we just say back. Can't believe we have cousins playing, how bad is Chester? How diabolical are these tactics and how is Indi a left back? Butland had been bad for so so long, but we had a really good January correct? I can see this going really really sour. This team are so unbelievably overpaid and overrated. Can we try a left back from the academy? At least they will be able to play left back? Nothing wrong with Cousins,he's proving to be 1 of Jones's better signings Honestly, there's everything wrong with it. If you wish to stay bottom half championship for another two decades then he's fine, otherwise it's really not fine. Drawing with Luton is unacceptable. The decline at this club is unbelievable. The process is really something to behold.
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Post by liathroid on Feb 29, 2020 17:18:33 GMT
Sickener - we'd arguably have stolen not earned 2 more vital points if we'd held on but who cares? Plus points for keeping it tight again for the majority of the game, closing them down better than we did last time (altho for quality Luton really do belong on Wolstanton Marsh) but... was that really the extent of Mick's plan, did taking the game to them just not come into it after minute 9?? 6 from me add * if you were there please on time today
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 29, 2020 17:18:51 GMT
No they aren't and we should have gone at them more but I still get why he does it, we're shit and its more a risk letting them play than not, thats why we are where we are. If it were any other manager we'd be saying he's bottled it.It's a good job he's got plenty of credit in the bank If so, he bottles it every game At the min if he gets us over the line out of the bottom three then I don't really care how he does it, today was poor though, didn't even give us a chance at countering any of their attacks with the subs he used.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Feb 29, 2020 17:20:12 GMT
5*
First 20 minutes was great but once we scored we just went into sit back mode.
Ince was a passenger again and how he keeps getting a starting place is beyond me.
Cousins looked good and batth was commanding.
Must admit i wasnt surprised when they scored but it never looked a penalty from where i was stood. Saying that there were 3 defenders near the ball to clear it and chester put the challenge in, and i thought he got the ball. But the ref was generous to us throughout the game so it was no surprise he'd give them a decision.
He should have bought Campbell on as an outlet as they didnt look anything special at the back.
Very disappointed and a result that could genuinely bite us on the arse now that wigan have turned into Barcelona.
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Post by mrteddysalad on Feb 29, 2020 17:20:29 GMT
pressed them early on and completely overwhelmed them, then he decided to sit back and let a horrid squad control pace
3 at best, first time I've been really disappointed with him
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 29, 2020 17:20:51 GMT
Although there were eyebrows raised at the starting eleven. I though it played OK in the first half and but for some abysmal finishing, we'd have had a more comfortable lead at half time. But I thought his game management was poor. Luton spent the last quarter camped on the edge of our area. MON thought the solution was to bring on extra defenders + Gregory. The best way to defend that lead would have been to bring on Campbell's pace to scare Luton into becoming more defensive themselves. I get that MON wanted to rest Campbell, but 30 minutes in the second half would not have taken too much out of him. Unless he was injured - in which case he shouldn't have been on the bench.
I'll give him good marks for the first half - but he doesn't deserve anything for the second half. With Campbell on we'd probably have got the 3 clean sheets MON so clearly wanted.
5 from me.
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