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Post by sportsman on Feb 14, 2020 19:44:08 GMT
In a way good as I hate man citeh. In another way I hope they take UEFA to court and ffp is fucked off.
Wonder if they'll do the same to someone like PSG. Doubt it cause they just don't want English clubs dominating europe.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 14, 2020 19:46:49 GMT
This is not the Brexit I voted for
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Post by zerps on Feb 14, 2020 19:47:25 GMT
A bit like Stoke then..
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Post by samstokie1 on Feb 14, 2020 19:54:32 GMT
pray for west ham next week
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Post by salopstick on Feb 14, 2020 19:54:48 GMT
It seems to me that the big oil money that Man City (and PSG) got was a threat to the status quo of the big European clubs.
The FPP was more a way to stop other clubs getting a sugar daddy and breaking into their cartel
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Post by RF10 on Feb 14, 2020 20:08:17 GMT
Who may be Sheffield United if they continue on the same level. Worst thing that could possibly happen to Sheffield United, I hope they just miss out on it. Wine I suggested it last week as possiblity to my mate said he didn't want them get in. I told him he's mad and got get everything when you can and just enjoy the moment.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 14, 2020 20:13:45 GMT
In a way good as I hate man citeh. In another way I hope they take UEFA to court and ffp is fucked off. Wonder if they'll do the same to someone like PSG. Doubt it cause they just don't want English clubs dominating europe. UEFA did the same after Hysel, banned all English clubs for 5 years becuase they were becoming too dominant.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 14, 2020 20:17:18 GMT
In a way good as I hate man citeh. In another way I hope they take UEFA to court and ffp is fucked off. Wonder if they'll do the same to someone like PSG. Doubt it cause they just don't want English clubs dominating europe. UEFA did the same after Hysel, banned all English clubs for 5 years becuase they were becoming too dominant. Yes, English teams are dominating Europe currently as the finals last year were Liverpool vs Spurs and Chelsea vs Arsenal but Man City never dominated Europe.
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Post by liam007 on Feb 14, 2020 20:19:33 GMT
FFP & VAR can't be arsed anymore,Stoke City and Leek Town = a good few beers and football that's all i give a fuck about nowadays.
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Post by zerps on Feb 14, 2020 20:19:53 GMT
Shirley the heysel incident was no comparison to this?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 20:21:43 GMT
trouble is that, when you have club owners as rich as those of Man City, there isn't really much point in giving them a big fine if they breach the rules. Their owners could pay any fine without batting an eyelid. They can't deduct them points or relegate them from domestic competitons, as that can only be done by our own authorities. So a European ban is the only effective punishment that will hurt the owners. It is a second offence as well, so I'm not surprised the punishment is as harsh as it is. I expect lawyers on both sides of the argument will be looking forward to bumper pay days over the next few months! Fair enough but look at our own FA and their different treatment of clubs depending on how big they are and the number of glory hunting parasites that cram the pubs when they are playing (that’s not Man City BTW). But I remember when Swindon got relegated two divisions and for the same offence Spurs were deducted 12 points. BM Hardly on the same scale . Swindon had been making irregular payments over several seasons, defrauding the Inland Revenue and of course Macari and co and their betting offences. Spurs had declared all and had their point deduction over-turned and rightly so. Was a time when the Inland Revenue went for the big clubs due to what was going on elsewhere. Spurs' debts to the Inland Revenue were clear at the time of the investigation and irregularities which I think numbered 4 were due to previous owners. Swindon had 40 odd and their chairman prosecuted as was on'going at the time of the investigation. Vastly different cases
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Post by felonious on Feb 14, 2020 20:25:13 GMT
In a way good as I hate man citeh. In another way I hope they take UEFA to court and ffp is fucked off. Wonder if they'll do the same to someone like PSG. Doubt it cause they just don't want English clubs dominating europe. UEFA did the same after Hysel, banned all English clubs for 5 years becuase they were becoming too dominant. No, it was because they foresaw Brexit coming down the line
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 20:30:20 GMT
UEFA did the same after Hysel, banned all English clubs for 5 years becuase they were becoming too dominant. No, it was because they foresaw Brexit coming down the line They had little choice to ban Liverpool, should have been permanent. At the time English clubs were causing mayhem abroad, even pre season. Man City or PSG have never made a Champions League final so can't accuse them of being singled out. Didn't PSG structure the M'Bappe deal to avoid FFP punishment ?
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Post by millennialfalcon on Feb 14, 2020 20:33:03 GMT
No, it was because they foresaw Brexit coming down the line They had little choice to ban Liverpool, should have been permanent. At the time English clubs were causing mayhem abroad, even pre season. Man City or PSG have never made a Champions League final so can't accuse them of being singled out. Didn't PSG structure the M'Bappe deal to avoid FFP punishment ? Banning any team permanently would be harsh dude. Needs to be room for forgiveness.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 14, 2020 20:36:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 20:39:07 GMT
They had little choice to ban Liverpool, should have been permanent. At the time English clubs were causing mayhem abroad, even pre season. Man City or PSG have never made a Champions League final so can't accuse them of being singled out. Didn't PSG structure the M'Bappe deal to avoid FFP punishment ? Banning any team permanently would be harsh dude. Needs to be room for forgiveness. Obviously would have appealed in time, maybe indefinitely a better idea. Was harsh on Norwich as they had European football taken away through no fault of their own
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 14, 2020 20:41:41 GMT
Man City to go all out to win the FA Cup, in the next two seasons!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 20:48:06 GMT
If it's over-turned as allegedly Man City owners are pretty sure it will then it makes a mockery of the rule.They had been warned previously and perhaps just expected a fine which is chunk change to them. AC Milan accepted a 1 year ban didn't they?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 14, 2020 21:08:36 GMT
Manchester City and their new money have a face that simply doesn't fit where the suits want to take the European competitions. My thoughts too. I’m pretty sure if it was Liverpool or Man U nothing would happen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 21:14:36 GMT
Manchester City and their new money have a face that simply doesn't fit where the suits want to take the European competitions. My thoughts too. I’m pretty sure if it was Liverpool or Man U nothing would happen. What about AC Milan? Man City have spent in the region of a billion pounds since the owners came in. Not to do with faces not fitting, outrageous spending at a level that breaks all rules more like. It's not like Man City dominate the competition or anything. Liverpool sold Coutinho and spent superbly. AC Milan are one of Europe's giants and were banned.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Feb 14, 2020 21:14:50 GMT
This is not the Brexit I voted for Alright Colin, calm down. 🙄😉
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 14, 2020 21:38:03 GMT
Let me guess. On appeal the fine will stand and the ban will be suspended for three seasons.
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Post by adamsson on Feb 14, 2020 22:44:43 GMT
Hope they win it and refuse to lift the trophy! I also hope that they take UEFA to the cleaners. If it was Liverpool or Manchester United would you say similar? Wouldn't have happened to them would it.
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Post by adamsson on Feb 14, 2020 22:46:14 GMT
In a way good as I hate man citeh. In another way I hope they take UEFA to court and ffp is fucked off. Wonder if they'll do the same to someone like PSG. Doubt it cause they just don't want English clubs dominating europe. Don't be ridiculous PSG are French rules don't apply
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 23:06:52 GMT
In a way good as I hate man citeh. In another way I hope they take UEFA to court and ffp is fucked off. Wonder if they'll do the same to someone like PSG. Doubt it cause they just don't want English clubs dominating europe. Don't be ridiculous PSG are French rules don't apply PSG like Man City were investigated previously but since then PSG have sold almost 100 million pounds worth of players and loaned out some big earners. True some have come in but Man city made 2 signings worth 120 million amongst others. I think PSG had a 60 million Euro shortfall to comply to FFP which they seemingly have done.Not sure what being French really has to do with it. Seems Man City have just carried on spending big.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 15, 2020 3:22:59 GMT
This is great news.... for Man City's lawyers.
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Post by hyaduck on Feb 15, 2020 4:41:03 GMT
If it was Liverpool or Manchester United would you say similar? Yes I would. I think this whole FFP thing is a load of bollocks. What about Arsenal
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 15, 2020 5:24:02 GMT
Gutted for them 🤥
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Post by Gob Bluth on Feb 15, 2020 6:09:35 GMT
If I’m right this isn’t about numbers but UEFA believe that their sponsorship deal is purely backed by their owner. As this is pushed through his company I really can’t see how UEFA can prove this unless there’s a clear UEFA rule that says the amount must be relative to a competing offer, even so the mega rich will get round it. From my ill informed view it looks like a silly move by UEFA, it looks very difficult to prove and I’d guess they’re going to have to climb down eventually.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 15, 2020 7:42:38 GMT
Uefa have got to get man utd into there Premier competition somehow
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