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Post by BuckRogers on Feb 8, 2020 21:26:44 GMT
Quality goal today. Getting better every game. He will be better next season with better quality around him next season. New striker/ winger hopefully
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Post by Billy the kid on Feb 8, 2020 21:42:48 GMT
Its seems my view is not consistent with others, and they have all pointed to his benefits in the team, so I apologise as clearly I'm wrong long live MON.
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Post by dioufsboots on Feb 8, 2020 21:49:14 GMT
Along with the new manager (obviously} made a big difference to our form since he came into the team imo look at the amount of chances we create now, thats no coincidence
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 8, 2020 22:21:33 GMT
I know I am getting grief here tonight for not rating Powell, and I am honestly gald others see different, but for me he isnt all that! I dont rate him, he looks slow on the ball, his off the ball pay is weak as piss and the occasional flash of brilliance isnt worth him being in the team for me. He looks like a shinny light in a basically shit team, we are and have been less than the sum of all parts all season. On paper we should be running for the play offs, in november even Smudge said they were a buch of dislikable cunts. Nothing has changed apart from a manager that has a plan, and a cor bunch of players that are working for him. Powell is not and never will be a top half of the championship typre of player, he is just a shining light in a sea of medioca dross. Is he the worst player at Stoke City? no, is he a good player? debatable. Is he someone that will ease our transition from championship strugglers, to promotion contenders....not a fucking chance. I actually think it's really clear that stoke have gone from a rock bottom team, to a team in play off form, because A. We have a settled team 2. Powell and Campbell have become regular starters. Powell and Campbell are our two creative players, both of whom are premier league level players in my view. If you think powell is lightweight or slow you just aren't paying attention I think the manager may have a lot to do with it as well!! Not a popular view though is it?
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Post by mikeyb99 on Feb 8, 2020 22:31:14 GMT
Nice solid 8/10 today, good goal, an assist and worked hard. Has some way to go to make up for his appalling languid, disinterested display against Derby, though.
Don't really get the love-in with this guy, has done little to convince me. If he was really 'Premier League level' then he wouldn't have played all of his career for the likes of Crewe and Wigan. The reality is that performances like today have not been the norm. If he can find consistency then he might be the answer. Jury firmly out.
Oh, for the record, I was a great fan of Arnautovic, Bojan and Bjarni. All of these players regularly influenced games, and rarely did a game pass them by.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 8, 2020 22:32:56 GMT
Nice solid 8/10 today, good goal, an assist and worked hard. Has some way to go to make up for his appalling languid, disinterested display against Derby, though. Don't really get the love-in with this guy, has done little to convince me. If he was really 'Premier League level' then he wouldn't have played all of his career for the likes of Crewe and Wigan. The reality is that performances like today have not been the norm. If he can find consistency then he might be the answer. Jury firmly out. Oh, for the record, I was a great fan of Arnautovic, Bojan and Bjarni. All of these players regularly influenced games, and rarely did a game pass them by. Performances like today have absolutely been the norm since he’s come back into the team?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 22:34:07 GMT
Nice solid 8/10 today, good goal, an assist and worked hard. Has some way to go to make up for his appalling languid, disinterested display against Derby, though. Don't really get the love-in with this guy, has done little to convince me. If he was really 'Premier League level' then he wouldn't have played all of his career for the likes of Crewe and Wigan. The reality is that performances like today have not been the norm. If he can find consistency then he might be the answer. Jury firmly out. Oh, for the record, I was a great fan of Arnautovic, Bojan and Bjarni. All of these players regularly influenced games, and rarely did a game pass them by. Great assessment mate.
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Post by mikeyb99 on Feb 8, 2020 22:34:32 GMT
Nice solid 8/10 today, good goal, an assist and worked hard. Has some way to go to make up for his appalling languid, disinterested display against Derby, though. Don't really get the love-in with this guy, has done little to convince me. If he was really 'Premier League level' then he wouldn't have played all of his career for the likes of Crewe and Wigan. The reality is that performances like today have not been the norm. If he can find consistency then he might be the answer. Jury firmly out. Oh, for the record, I was a great fan of Arnautovic, Bojan and Bjarni. All of these players regularly influenced games, and rarely did a game pass them by. Performances like today have absolutely been the norm since he’s come back into the team? No, they haven't. Games have tended to pass him by. Edit: I should say he was great against Huddersfield. As good a display that day as today.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 8, 2020 22:34:58 GMT
Performances like today have absolutely been the norm since he’s come back into the team? No, they haven't. Games have tended to pass him by. Which games, specifically?
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Post by dioufsboots on Feb 8, 2020 22:36:21 GMT
Bojan and bjarni? bojan was a complete passenger apart from the little good spell he had and bjarni was not very good tbh apart from a decent crosser of the ball
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Post by mikeyb99 on Feb 8, 2020 22:39:05 GMT
No, they haven't. Games have tended to pass him by. Which games, specifically? Millwall, Swansea, Derby. Wasn't at WBA so cannot say.
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Post by lordb on Feb 8, 2020 22:39:07 GMT
Nice solid 8/10 today, good goal, an assist and worked hard. Has some way to go to make up for his appalling languid, disinterested display against Derby, though. Don't really get the love-in with this guy, has done little to convince me. If he was really 'Premier League level' then he wouldn't have played all of his career for the likes of Crewe and Wigan. The reality is that performances like today have not been the norm. If he can find consistency then he might be the answer. Jury firmly out. Oh, for the record, I was a great fan of Arnautovic, Bojan and Bjarni. All of these players regularly influenced games, and rarely did a game pass them by. Loads passed Arnie by He didn't do average
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Post by lordb on Feb 8, 2020 22:39:48 GMT
Which games, specifically? Millwall, Swansea, Derby. He played really well against Swansea and pretty good v Millwall Was shit v Derby
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Post by nickpowellgoals on Feb 8, 2020 22:41:00 GMT
Fantastic today! An assist and a goal. Couldn't really do much more!!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 8, 2020 22:49:43 GMT
Which games, specifically? Millwall, Swansea, Derby. Wasn't at WBA so cannot say. Swansea he was good and his flick created a goal from a position which traditionally over the last few seasons ends up back with Butland. He’s made a significant contribution to every game we’ve won since he’s been back in the team.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 23:03:38 GMT
Millwall, Swansea, Derby. Wasn't at WBA so cannot say. Swansea he was good and his flick created a goal from a position which traditionally over the last few seasons ends up back with Butland. He’s made a significant contribution to every game we’ve won since he’s been back in the team. The Swansea flick 😂😂😂 That will go down in history. Masking an absolutely awful 90 minute performance.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 8, 2020 23:05:38 GMT
Swansea he was good and his flick created a goal from a position which traditionally over the last few seasons ends up back with Butland. He’s made a significant contribution to every game we’ve won since he’s been back in the team. The Swansea flick 😂😂😂 That will go down in history. Masking an absolutely awful 90 minute performance. You’re going to have to talk me through why he was ‘awful’.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 8, 2020 23:13:01 GMT
Just to put things in context, Stoke have won four of their last six.
In those games, Nick Powell:
Huddersfield: goal West Brom: brilliant pre-assist Swansea: assist Charlton: goal and assist
Given how diabolical we’ve been this season, are we really questioning someone making this impact?
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Post by neckender78 on Feb 8, 2020 23:19:03 GMT
Nice solid 8/10 today, good goal, an assist and worked hard. Has some way to go to make up for his appalling languid, disinterested display against Derby, though. Don't really get the love-in with this guy, has done little to convince me. If he was really 'Premier League level' then he wouldn't have played all of his career for the likes of Crewe and Wigan. The reality is that performances like today have not been the norm. If he can find consistency then he might be the answer. Jury firmly out. Oh, for the record, I was a great fan of Arnautovic, Bojan and Bjarni. All of these players regularly influenced games, and rarely did a game pass them by. Arnie 1 good game in 4 and Bojan and Bjarni were the epitomy of decent once in a while players at different levels for us. Powell is our best footballer (not our best player) but the best footballer we have. So much of our support laud average ability players cus they work hard, which is what every fuckin player should do anyway!!!. Everything powell does wont come off but at least he is always trying to create rather than sidewards back, sideways, back. He has got quality let MON use him as he sees fits and get the best out of the lad. We have got a quality player here
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Feb 8, 2020 23:20:59 GMT
Always important to remember he absolutely hates Stoke
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Post by onionman on Feb 8, 2020 23:23:20 GMT
Just to put things in context, Stoke have won four of their last six. In those games, Nick Powell: Huddersfield: goal West Brom: brilliant pre-assist Swansea: assist Charlton: goal and assist Given how diabolical we’ve been this season, are we really questioning someone making this impact? There was at least one assist against Huddersfield too. I’m surprised some fans don’t like Powell. He’s been excellent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 23:25:00 GMT
Always important to remember he absolutely hates Stoke Doubt he hates Stoke as much as most Stoke fans judging by the absolute dogshit I read on this forum. Powell would be, at an absolute minimum, playing at a top side in this division if it wasn't for his injury record.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 23:33:34 GMT
The Swansea flick 😂😂😂 That will go down in history. Masking an absolutely awful 90 minute performance. You’re going to have to talk me through why he was ‘awful’. I don't know why he was awful, he just was. Maybe ask him? Pathetic and completely non existent.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 8, 2020 23:38:11 GMT
You’re going to have to talk me through why he was ‘awful’. I don't know why he was awful, he just was. Maybe ask him? Pathetic and completely non existent. Apologies, I’ll phrase my question better. How was he awful? No Stoke player played more passes in the final third; that doesn’t scream non-existent to me. My recollection is Swansea (7th in the league when we played them) constantly backing off him and him playing some clever passes to the front three. Then producing the assist that broke the deadlock. Without him we’re a much duller; worse team. He’s the difference between us creating chances and being Rowett 2.0.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Feb 8, 2020 23:40:15 GMT
He is playing as a number 10.
My expectation for that position are goals and assists.
8.5/10 for me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 23:41:40 GMT
I don't know why he was awful, he just was. Maybe ask him? Pathetic and completely non existent. Apologies, I’ll phrase my question better. How was he awful? No Stoke player played more passes in the final third; that doesn’t scream non-existent to me. My recollection is Swansea (7th in the league when we played them) constantly backing off him and him playing some clever passes to the front three. Then producing the assist that broke the deadlock. Without him we’re a much duller; worse team. He’s the difference between us creating chances and being Rowett 2.0. His position is the final third. Thats like saying "nobody completed more passes in the left back area than our left back". Terrible argument. You are so much better than that Rob.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Feb 8, 2020 23:46:34 GMT
He's a Premier League quality player who's had a career (so far) of his body letting him down.
A fully fit Nick Powell is one of the best players in this shit league.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 8, 2020 23:47:01 GMT
Apologies, I’ll phrase my question better. How was he awful? No Stoke player played more passes in the final third; that doesn’t scream non-existent to me. My recollection is Swansea (7th in the league when we played them) constantly backing off him and him playing some clever passes to the front three. Then producing the assist that broke the deadlock. Without him we’re a much duller; worse team. He’s the difference between us creating chances and being Rowett 2.0. His position is the final third. Thats like saying "nobody completed more passes in the left back area than our left back". Terrible argument. You are so much better than that Rob. It was a response to your argument that he was ‘anonymous and non existent’ though Tom, an argument you’ve backed up with, erm, nothing so far. That nobody, not the wingers, the centre forward, the other midfielders, played more passes than him in their half in that game rather suggests he wasn’t ‘non-existent’, doesn’t it?
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Post by thicknthin on Feb 9, 2020 0:06:48 GMT
Nice solid 8/10 today, good goal, an assist and worked hard. Has some way to go to make up for his appalling languid, disinterested display against Derby, though. Don't really get the love-in with this guy, has done little to convince me. If he was really 'Premier League level' then he wouldn't have played all of his career for the likes of Crewe and Wigan. The reality is that performances like today have not been the norm. If he can find consistency then he might be the answer. Jury firmly out. Oh, for the record, I was a great fan of Arnautovic, Bojan and Bjarni. All of these players regularly influenced games, and rarely did a game pass them by. Great assessment mate. Apart from the bit you missed where Man united signed him? Or did that not fit in
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 9, 2020 0:17:26 GMT
Still don’t understand why he is being hounded for Derby more than any other.
Allen has been phenomenal since O’Neill has come in but him and Clucas were fucking shit scared of Rooney all game, why aren’t they being hounded to the degree Powell is? Or Lindsay for stepping up too much, or Ince for not covering etc...
Derby was a collectively bad performance, it’s unfair to single someone out. The games where we’ve played well however, Powell has directly influenced with a goal, a pre assist or an assist. He’s a creative outlet in a squad full of workmanlike midfielders. If he can stay injury free, there is a quality player in there. He’s only 25 remember.
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