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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 15, 2020 8:05:20 GMT
Well things could get very Intresting for the Manchester plod
And several senior policemen in other forces
As the true extent of there treatment of hundreds of vulnerable children comes to light
Maybe if they had treat hordes of rapists as they did football fans
The lives of some could of been better
Oh I almost forgot the hundreds of social workers local Labour politicians and community leaders who might be getting a touch hot under the collar as the true extent of there complicity comes to light
But I not sure they will really allow the true extent of the abuse to become public
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Jan 15, 2020 8:19:11 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 15, 2020 8:19:11 GMT
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Jan 15, 2020 9:27:22 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 15, 2020 9:27:22 GMT
Well things could get very Intresting for the Manchester plod And several senior policemen in other forces As the true extent of there treatment of hundreds of vulnerable children comes to light Maybe if they had treat hordes of rapists as they did football fans The lives of some could of been better Oh I almost forgot the hundreds of social workers local Labour politicians and community leaders who might be getting a touch hot under the collar as the true extent of there complicity comes to light But I not sure they will really allow the true extent of the abuse to become public Oh dear, talk about weaponising... |
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 15, 2020 9:32:17 GMT
Well things could get very Intresting for the Manchester plod And several senior policemen in other forces As the true extent of there treatment of hundreds of vulnerable children comes to light Maybe if they had treat hordes of rapists as they did football fans The lives of some could of been better Oh I almost forgot the hundreds of social workers local Labour politicians and community leaders who might be getting a touch hot under the collar as the true extent of there complicity comes to light But I not sure they will really allow the true extent of the abuse to become public Oh dear, talk about weaponising... What have I weaponised And what have I posted that is not true Would you like it not to be in the public domain |
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Jan 15, 2020 9:36:14 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 15, 2020 9:36:14 GMT
Oh dear, talk about weaponising... What have I weaponised And what have I posted that is not true Would you like it not to be in the public domain I think Andy Burnham(who reopened the case)said that there won’t be a force in England that will not be affected by this issue... |
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Jan 15, 2020 9:38:37 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Jan 15, 2020 9:38:37 GMT
Well things could get very Intresting for the Manchester plod And several senior policemen in other forces As the true extent of there treatment of hundreds of vulnerable children comes to light Maybe if they had treat hordes of rapists as they did football fans The lives of some could of been better Oh I almost forgot the hundreds of social workers local Labour politicians and community leaders who might be getting a touch hot under the collar as the true extent of there complicity comes to light But I not sure they will really allow the true extent of the abuse to become public It's about time they were brought to book along with Councillors complicit in covering up for these scum bags, there should be a national enquiry lead by an independent committee, this could get very interesting any one found guilty of covering up the crimes of these paedo's should be charged and sentenced as accessories, the genie is about to be let out of the bottle at last it's a national disgrace. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 15, 2020 9:40:21 GMT
What have I weaponised And what have I posted that is not true Would you like it not to be in the public domain I think Andy Burnham(who reopened the case)said that there won’t be a force in England that will not be affected by this issue... We shall see you obviously have more faith in Burnham than me But what about the social workers employed by Labour councils overseen by by Labour councilors is Burnham going to get his teeth in to them |
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Jan 15, 2020 9:42:52 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Jan 15, 2020 9:42:52 GMT
Oh dear, talk about weaponising... What have I weaponised And what have I posted that is not true Would you like it not to be in the public domain The time has come to recognise and deal with the elephant in the room no more cover up's, no more hiding behind the religious and community blanket let's have the real truth out in the open. Once the full extent is in the public domain I think there will be massive implications for many and rightly so. |
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Jan 15, 2020 9:45:02 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 15, 2020 9:45:02 GMT
What have I weaponised And what have I posted that is not true Would you like it not to be in the public domain The time has come to recognise and deal with the elephant in the room no more cover up's, no more hiding behind the religious and community blanket let's have the real truth out in the open. Once the full extent is in the public domain I think there will be massive implications for many and rightly so. They will never allow the true extent to come out It would blow there utopian multiculturalism out of the water |
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Jan 15, 2020 9:53:47 GMT
Post by Eggybread on Jan 15, 2020 9:53:47 GMT
I watched the BBC this morning and they had a lady on their who was really on the ball regarding this.One thing amongst many interesting facts was that Rochdale council are still not co-operating and releasing the relevant documents.It seems as though social workers were reporting the cases but for a number of reasons they were not followed through with the police putting tremendous pressure on the social workers to drop the cases.With race and social class being the main issues for not proceeding.
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Jan 15, 2020 9:59:29 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 15, 2020 9:59:29 GMT
I watched the BBC this morning and they had a lady on their who was really on the ball regarding this.One thing amongst many interesting facts was that Rochdale council are still not co-operating and releasing the relevant documents.It seems as though social workers were reporting the cases but for a number of reasons they were not followed through with the police putting tremendous pressure on the social workers to drop the cases.With race and social class being the main issues for not proceeding. Yes she's an ex Manchester police officer who resigned at the time over the handling of the abuse |
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Jan 15, 2020 10:13:35 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Jan 15, 2020 10:13:35 GMT
I watched the BBC this morning and they had a lady on their who was really on the ball regarding this.One thing amongst many interesting facts was that Rochdale council are still not co-operating and releasing the relevant documents.It seems as though social workers were reporting the cases but for a number of reasons they were not followed through with the police putting tremendous pressure on the social workers to drop the cases.With race and social class being the main issues for not proceeding. Much easier to let these scum bag paedophiles rape vulnerable white girls than cause offence to certain communities. As I said before it's a national disgrace our authorities are complicit in covering up for these depraved criminals, they have let down the very people they are supposed to be protecting, they need identifying and brought before the courts. |
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Jan 15, 2020 11:33:06 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 15, 2020 11:33:06 GMT
I think Andy Burnham(who reopened the case)said that there won’t be a force in England that will not be affected by this issue... We shall see you obviously have more faith in Burnham than me But what about the social workers employed by Labour councils overseen by by Labour councilors is Burnham going to get his teeth in to them Don’t worry, Once we’ve got Brexit done all these problems will go away... |
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Jan 15, 2020 11:41:17 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 15, 2020 11:41:17 GMT
We shall see you obviously have more faith in Burnham than me But what about the social workers employed by Labour councils overseen by by Labour councilors is Burnham going to get his teeth in to them Don’t worry, Once we’ve got Brexit done all these problems will go away... Come on now bath you're better than that The problem will never go away whilst one of those poor children is still breathing The genie is about to escape the bottle and the lid is lost |
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Post by Eggybread on Jan 15, 2020 11:46:02 GMT
Don’t worry, Once we’ve got Brexit done all these problems will go away... Come on now bath you're better than that The problem will never go away whilst one of those poor children is still breathing The genie is about to escape the bottle and the lid is lost Point is you are using it politically. Labour this labour that.From this mornings listen the dibble are more to blame than anyone. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 15, 2020 12:05:44 GMT
Come on now bath you're better than that The problem will never go away whilst one of those poor children is still breathing The genie is about to escape the bottle and the lid is lost Point is you are using it a politically. Labour this labour that.From this mornings listen the dibble are more to blame than anyone. No the rapist scum are ultimately to blame Closely followed by the social care system who ultimately allowed those children who were in there care to be abused Then the plod who having finally been made aware chose for some reasons not to fully pursue the perpetrators On the point of the social workers who employs them who overseas there actions And who is ultimately responsible the local authorities And in case it has escaped your attention the majority or if not all of the cases of children being passed around groups of men Happened with social services being under direct control or supervision of labour politicians The original Manchester police case was dropped during the height of the Blair government The police will take the blame rightly or wrongly for this But they will be scapegoats for a much larger problem |
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 15, 2020 12:14:13 GMT
Come on now bath you're better than that The problem will never go away whilst one of those poor children is still breathing The genie is about to escape the bottle and the lid is lost Point is you are using it politically. Labour this labour that.From this mornings listen the dibble are more to blame than anyone. The people to blame are the depraved paedophile scum who carried out these child rapes etc. those responsible for covering up the truth be it Councils, Social Workers, Police, religious leaders, their communities if found they have abetted these scum bags they should be charged as accessories, until we as a society can accept this nothing will change as I said before we have to recognise the elephant in the room admit what has been going on and why then sort it out this will continue. I fear that this will never happen because it is a "sensitive" area WTF |
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 15, 2020 12:16:30 GMT
Don’t worry, Once we’ve got Brexit done all these problems will go away... Come on now bath you're better than that The problem will never go away whilst one of those poor children is still breathing The genie is about to escape the bottle and the lid is lost He really isn't mate. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 15, 2020 12:17:33 GMT
Come on now bath you're better than that The problem will never go away whilst one of those poor children is still breathing The genie is about to escape the bottle and the lid is lost Point is you are using it politically. Labour this labour that.From this mornings listen the dibble are more to blame than anyone. Because it was a directive from Gordon Brown backed by the then Home Sec Jaqui Smith that told forces not to investigate because of the perpetrators race, religion and heritage. Also, the vast majority of these mass rape gangs were operating in poorer inner city areas which were/are majority controlled by Labour Council's and Labour MP's. |
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Jan 15, 2020 12:21:07 GMT
Post by Eggybread on Jan 15, 2020 12:21:07 GMT
Point is you are using it politically. Labour this labour that.From this mornings listen the dibble are more to blame than anyone. The people to blame are the depraved paedophile scum who carried out these child rapes etc. those responsible for covering up the truth be it Councils, Social Workers, Police, religious leaders, their communities if found they have abetted these scum bags they should be charged as accessories, until we as a society can accept this nothing will change as I said before we have to recognise the elephant in the room admit what has been going on and why then sort it out this will continue. I fear that this will never happen because it is a "sensitive" area WTF The police are the ones mainly to blame for the cover up is what I meant and you know it not the crimes. |
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 15, 2020 12:23:28 GMT
Come on now bath you're better than that The problem will never go away whilst one of those poor children is still breathing The genie is about to escape the bottle and the lid is lost Point is you are using it politically. Labour this labour that.From this mornings listen the dibble are more to blame than anyone. Yes you would never catch Labour politicising a scandal or tragedy would you. |
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Jan 15, 2020 12:26:58 GMT
Post by Eggybread on Jan 15, 2020 12:26:58 GMT
Point is you are using it politically. Labour this labour that.From this mornings listen the dibble are more to blame than anyone. Because it was a directive from Gordon Brown backed by the then Home Sec Jaqui Smith that told forces not to investigate because of the perpetrators race, religion and heritage. Also, the vast majority of these mass rape gangs were operating in poorer inner city areas which were/are majority controlled by Labour Council's and Labour MP's. "Home Sec Jaqui Smith that told forces not to investigate because of the perpetrators race, religion and heritage" link please. But to keep on about it being Labours fault deflects from his "concern"for the children. It doesn't fit right does it. |
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Jan 15, 2020 12:29:33 GMT
Post by Eggybread on Jan 15, 2020 12:29:33 GMT
Point is you are using it politically. Labour this labour that.From this mornings listen the dibble are more to blame than anyone. Yes you would never catch Labour politicising a scandal or tragedy would you. Ok  So its ok then. |
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Jan 15, 2020 12:31:41 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 15, 2020 12:31:41 GMT
The people to blame are the depraved paedophile scum who carried out these child rapes etc. those responsible for covering up the truth be it Councils, Social Workers, Police, religious leaders, their communities if found they have abetted these scum bags they should be charged as accessories, until we as a society can accept this nothing will change as I said before we have to recognise the elephant in the room admit what has been going on and why then sort it out this will continue. I fear that this will never happen because it is a "sensitive" area WTF The police are the ones mainly to blame for the cover up is what I meant and you know it not the crimes. Do you believe the police chose to cover up it off there own back |
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Jan 15, 2020 12:34:54 GMT
Post by Eggybread on Jan 15, 2020 12:34:54 GMT
The police are the ones mainly to blame for the cover up is what I meant and you know it not the crimes. Do you believe the police chose to cover up it off there own back Well poster rogerjones says it was Jacqui Smith so Im waiting for the proof.Proof not allegations. |
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Jan 15, 2020 12:39:18 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 15, 2020 12:39:18 GMT
Do you believe the police chose to cover up it off there own back Well poster rogerjones says it was Jacqui Smith so Im waiting for the proof.Proof not allegations. I'm sure very little will come out some of the plod will fall on there swords and they'll hope that will do Sod the cover up how about nailing the rapist scum that committed the acts |
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Jan 15, 2020 12:41:35 GMT
Post by Eggybread on Jan 15, 2020 12:41:35 GMT
Well poster rogerjones says it was Jacqui Smith so Im waiting for the proof.Proof not allegations. I'm sure very little will come out some of the plod will fall on there swords and they'll hope that will do Sod the cover up how about nailing the rapist scum that committed the acts "Sod the cover up how about nailing the rapist scum that committed the acts" Cant have one without the other. |
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Jan 15, 2020 12:45:25 GMT
Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jan 15, 2020 12:45:25 GMT
Point is you are using it a politically. Labour this labour that.From this mornings listen the dibble are more to blame than anyone. No the rapist scum are ultimately to blame Closely followed by the social care system who ultimately allowed those children who were in there care to be abused Then the plod who having finally been made aware chose for some reasons not to fully pursue the perpetrators On the point of the social workers who employs them who overseas there actions And who is ultimately responsible the local authorities And in case it has escaped your attention the majority or if not all of the cases of children being passed around groups of men Happened with social services being under direct control or supervision of labour politicians The original Manchester police case was dropped during the height of the Blair government The police will take the blame rightly or wrongly for this But they will be scapegoats for a much larger problem A Social Worker has no legal jurisdiction. They can do next to nothing without Police Powers of Protection and Court Orders. They'll be the scapegoat as usual. The cover-up is from the top and as always, politically driven. |
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Jan 15, 2020 12:52:09 GMT
Post by felonious on Jan 15, 2020 12:52:09 GMT
I watched the BBC this morning and they had a lady on their who was really on the ball regarding this.One thing amongst many interesting facts was that Rochdale council are still not co-operating and releasing the relevant documents.It seems as though social workers were reporting the cases but for a number of reasons they were not followed through with the police putting tremendous pressure on the social workers to drop the cases.With race and social class being the main issues for not proceeding. Repeated on news programmes over the last few days everything was ignored and suppressed due to "race relations" in these communities. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 15, 2020 12:53:05 GMT
It seems to me that some Pakistani Muslims see young vulnerable white British girls as easy sexual victims and target them ( stating the obvious). I think that some people are disappointed on Labour's stance in particular because.... 1 These girls are overwhelmimgly from traditional Labour communities 2 They could be classed as victims of life, having few life chances and needing help....just the "type" of person that Labour usually champions in their quest for a fairer society.... Corbyn always seems to cite, the sick and disabled, the disadvantaged in society. 3 Given 1 and 2 it appears that Labour have largely been totally quiet on the issue....is that because of a totally misguided and disgraceful belief that by drawing attention to it would harm community coherence.....any other disadvantaged group would be at the forefront of Labour's crusade....particularly as it seems to have a racist element. What do we know of the situation in Stoke on Trent ? www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/grooming-gangs-asian-muslim-across-country-uk-girls-children-women-bradford-rotherham-newcastle-a7987381.html“Nobody is saying that all Muslims commit abuse, but by saying it’s not an issue you’re silencing the victims,” she added. Ms Woodhouse, who is now 32, said she knew one girl who was “read statements from the Quran” while being raped and said she was made to eat halal, while Mad Ash wanted to make her his second wife under Sharia law. The proportion of white British victims of sexual exploitation prompted intense national debate in August, where the former director of public prosecution Lord McDonald called grooming a “profoundly racist crime”, despite a judge later finding victims in Newcastle were not targeted by race. |
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