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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 21:10:05 GMT
When Nath left we had 8 points from 14 games. An average of pretty much 0.5 a match. We were dead and buried and I thought relegation was unavoidable.
Since MON has come in the points per game average has improved dramatically (1.42) and we now have a fighting chance of staying up.
As poor as today was, we'd have lost it a few months ago.
It's a sign we're moving in the right direction. Its another point on the board. We just need to stay up this season and start undoing all the rotten work of the past few years.
I strongly believe we've turned a corner.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 11, 2020 21:13:55 GMT
Sorry but this I disagree with
The manager bottled it today
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 21:19:05 GMT
Sorry but this I disagree with The manager bottled it today He actually said not losing was the priority,or words to that effect |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 21:20:57 GMT
Sorry but this I disagree with The manager bottled it today Bottled what? They are a good side. Excellent defensively. Catch teams on the counter. No matter what team, formation or players a point was a good and fair result |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 11, 2020 21:26:19 GMT
Sorry but this I disagree with The manager bottled it today He actually said not losing was the priority,or words to that effect Really? Fucking hell.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 21:28:17 GMT
Sorry but this I disagree with The manager bottled it today Disagree with what? Stoke 1 QPR 2 Stoke 0 Huddersfield 1 Stoke 1 Blackburn 2 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 21:29:19 GMT
He actually said not losing was the priority,or words to that effect Really? Fucking hell. Not losing these games is an improvement on what we've done before he arrived. Its pretty simple logic and shows improvement. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 11, 2020 21:30:37 GMT
Sorry but this I disagree with The manager bottled it today Disagree with what? Stoke 1 QPR 2 Stoke 0 Huddersfield 1 Stoke 1 Blackburn 2 We are improving but I thought he bottled it today |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Jan 11, 2020 21:30:58 GMT
To stay up we needed to win that today Millwall were not that good & showed no real attacking threat.
We had not got a clue how to break them down or get in behind there defence very poor from us & this result could prove like the Reading game vital at the end of the season.
Not to worry though WBA away next & we always beat them.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 11, 2020 21:33:26 GMT
Really? Fucking hell. Not losing these games is an improvement on what we've done before he arrived. Its pretty simple logic and shows improvement. We need to win games. Today was awful and showed nothing tbh |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 21:33:35 GMT
Disagree with what? Stoke 1 QPR 2 Stoke 0 Huddersfield 1 Stoke 1 Blackburn 2 We are improving but I thought he bottled it today I'll settle for "improving". We were relegated before he arrived. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 11, 2020 21:34:02 GMT
Really? Fucking hell. Not losing these games is an improvement on what we've done before he arrived. Its pretty simple logic and shows improvement. Your assumption that we would have lost under Jones is just that, an assumption Today just smacked of a Paul Lambert approach. They were very poor and yet he stayed with an ineffective 1 up top. If we are to stay up then today we should be going for 3 points after working out what their game plan was and yet he changed nothing until too late |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 21:34:09 GMT
Not losing these games is an improvement on what we've done before he arrived. Its pretty simple logic and shows improvement. We need to win games. Today was awful and showed nothing tbh We were dead and buried before he arrived. Simple fact. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 21:35:20 GMT
Not losing these games is an improvement on what we've done before he arrived. Its pretty simple logic and shows improvement. Your assumption that we would have lost under Jones is just that, an assumption Today just smacked of a Paul Lambert approach. They were very poor and yet he stayed with an ineffective 1 up top. If we are to stay up then today we should be going for 3 points after working out what their game plan was and yet he changed nothing until too late We had 8 points from 14 games under Jones. What is it that I am assuming? We averaged almost 0.5 points per game. We were well and truly, absolutely abysmal. Some people have short memories. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 11, 2020 21:37:33 GMT
Your assumption that we would have lost under Jones is just that, an assumption Today just smacked of a Paul Lambert approach. They were very poor and yet he stayed with an ineffective 1 up top. If we are to stay up then today we should be going for 3 points after working out what their game plan was and yet he changed nothing until too late We had 8 points from 14 games under Jones. What is it that I am assuming? We averaged almost 0.5 points per game. We were well and truly, absolutely abysmal. Some people have short memories. No I dont. I agree we are improving. I just thought he bottled it today |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 21:39:09 GMT
We had 8 points from 14 games under Jones. What is it that I am assuming? We averaged almost 0.5 points per game. We were well and truly, absolutely abysmal. Some people have short memories. No I dont. I agree we are improving. I just thought he bottled it today It was a poor game. Agreed. We could have done more. We could have been more ambitious. I'm not over the moon. I'm still confident it's an improvement on what the previous manager would have achieved. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 11, 2020 21:41:09 GMT
No I dont. I agree we are improving. I just thought he bottled it today It was a poor game. Agreed. We could have done more. We could have been more ambitious. I'm not over the moon. I'm still confident it's an improvement on what the previous manager would have achieved. Of that there is no doubt |
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Post by lordb on Jan 11, 2020 21:43:44 GMT
Sorry but this I disagree with The manager bottled it today How? What would you have done differently? Millwall came for a point and battled harder than any side down here for years. We didn't have enough quality on the day. How exactly did he bottle it? |
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Post by lstokie on Jan 11, 2020 21:45:59 GMT
Disagree with what? Stoke 1 QPR 2 Stoke 0 Huddersfield 1 Stoke 1 Blackburn 2 We are improving but I thought he bottled it today What did he bottle? stop fannying around |
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Post by stokemark on Jan 11, 2020 21:47:01 GMT
Gary Rowett ‘won’ today as he and that fraud Jones left O’Neill with the team he had at his disposal
I’m not sure that there was too much wrong with how we set up - we just lack quality and that’s not his (O’Neills) fault
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Post by rosco on Jan 11, 2020 21:53:06 GMT
ONeill is the man. Keeping us up will be not far off a miracle.
Drawing 0.0 at home to Millwall isn't the most amazing result but from where we were a few months back not being able to buy a point, we're picking points up regularly now.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 11, 2020 21:53:10 GMT
Sorry but this I disagree with The manager bottled it today How? What would you have done differently? Millwall came for a point and battled harder than any side down here for years. We didn't have enough quality on the day. How exactly did he bottle it? should have gone 2 up front much earlier |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 21:54:10 GMT
How? What would you have done differently? Millwall came for a point and battled harder than any side down here for years. We didn't have enough quality on the day. How exactly did he bottle it? should have gone 2 up front much earlier How many teams play 2 up front these days? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 21:56:19 GMT
I went to Millwall away, which was one of the low points of the last 12 years.
Today we had a shot on target, so it’s an improvement
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 11, 2020 21:57:33 GMT
should have gone 2 up front much earlier How many teams play 2 up front these days? We should/could have today in the second half But we are going around in circles here Yes he has done well since he joined us but I and those around us felt we should have gone for it more today and the subs were too late |
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Post by StaffordPotter on Jan 11, 2020 21:58:32 GMT
We are miles better now than under that useless fucker Jones. He couldn't find his arse with both hands.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 22:00:37 GMT
How many teams play 2 up front these days? We should/could have today in the second half But we are going around in circles here Yes he has done well since he joined us but I and those around us felt we should have gone for it more today and the subs were too late I get where you're coming from mate. I was frustrated too and said the same thing to my mates. I expected changes sooner. If we'd have gone two up top theres a chance we'd have been over run in midfield though, and could have lost the game. |
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Post by Macko on Jan 11, 2020 22:15:07 GMT
Too many people on this board expect instant rapid change and for this squad that has struggled for two seasons to suddenly find a way of winning every match. As many have said, we are making progress in the right direction. We were dead and buried by the times Jones left.
I actually think the manager has done a remarkable job in getting the squad turned round and heading in the right direction. There are going be more bumps along the road and clearly there is much to do to change the squad into a more cohesive unit, but I have seen enough signs including today that we are on the way to doing that. We will stay up, and it will be much better starting next season in the Championship rather than league one.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 11, 2020 22:53:35 GMT
If that's a sign of improvement, then I'm pleased that I've missed most of this season. That's the worst stoke side that I've seen in a long long time. Won't be in a hurry to go to the next match.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 12, 2020 4:02:33 GMT
Not losing these games is an improvement on what we've done before he arrived. Its pretty simple logic and shows improvement. Your assumption that we would have lost under Jones is just that, an assumption Today just smacked of a Paul Lambert approach. They were very poor and yet he stayed with an ineffective 1 up top. If we are to stay up then today we should be going for 3 points after working out what their game plan was and yet he changed nothing until too late A pretty fair assumption though SS, based on.....well, the cold, hard truth that Jones was leading the club into the abyss. Not a great performance today, but Millwall are no mugs as their recent record shows. They didn’t offer much going forward, but very well drilled and organized and difficult to break down. I though we were the better side for most of the game without creating much, but I think to say MON “bottled it” is a bit over the top. |
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