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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 11, 2020 18:20:51 GMT
Can anyone remember a game against Millwall when it hasn't ever been a total bag of shite? Was saying the same during the game today,it’s shit everytime we play them
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Post by matelot1996 on Jan 11, 2020 18:22:58 GMT
Devoid of quality, ideas and energy (bar Allen). With this Team I think we will win a few more but nowhere near enough to pull clear of the relegation zone. This is going to go down to the wire. We simply do not have the Quality, or defence to do any better than we currently are. Worrying times. Today was utterly depressing. Let’s hope there are 3 teams worse than us come May.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 11, 2020 18:23:06 GMT
I thought Millwall were decent. Not in the sense of being creative, attractive to watch or any of the other qualities you associate with good football, but 'decent' in the sense of being almost indecent. They were awkward, well-organised, big, a danger at set-pieces...all the ugly things that we know are difficult to play against.
They're in and around the play-offs for a reason. Their gameplan's effective in picking up points, as ugly as it is, and better teams than us have struggled and will struggle against them this season. it would have been nice to get 3 points, and it's an afternoon of my life I'll never get back, but I'm not all that disappointed with a point. We'd have lost that game under NJ no doubt.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 11, 2020 18:23:18 GMT
No we weren’t. We never looked like scoring in a million years today. It was slow tepid shite with zero movement. Compounded by the manager not trying to change anything for way too long. Campbell and McClean could have been dragged off at half time if we were feeling ruthless. He should’ve changed it earlier I agree. I’m just saying I think we were the team more serious about winning the game than they were. I’m not saying we were good, I’m not saying we were cavalier, I’m just saying we were on the front foot more than them and tried to win the game more than they did. I don’t think either side looked arsed tbh. Just sideways stuff and then the crowd getting angry with it despite there being sod all movement so we hoofed it to their big fuckers at the back and lose it. Rinse and repeat. It was crying out for Verlinden or Ngoy on the right to run at the big bastard they had at left back and the centre half inside him. Instead we flung long high balls to one of the biggest players we’ve played against all season. 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 18:24:53 GMT
He should’ve changed it earlier I agree. I’m just saying I think we were the team more serious about winning the game than they were. I’m not saying we were good, I’m not saying we were cavalier, I’m just saying we were on the front foot more than them and tried to win the game more than they did. I don’t think either side looked arsed tbh. Just sideways stuff and then the crowd getting angry with it despite there being sod all movement so we hoofed it to their big fuckers at the back and lose it. Rinse and repeat. It was crying out for Verlinden or Ngoy on the right to run at the big bastard they had at left back and the centre half inside him. Instead we flung long high balls to one of the biggest players we’ve played against all season. 😂 Bang on
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Jan 11, 2020 18:26:30 GMT
Then after match interview should ask why lump it up against this team. Also why wasnt subs made earlier
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 11, 2020 18:27:06 GMT
Too much tippy tappy at the back when we had men around Vokes. You can't play possession football through the middle if there's a thirty yard chasm between the two sitting midfielders and the playmaker.
Still, Millwall are a good, organised team who will finish a lot higher than us this season. As a result, it's just about ok.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 18:27:32 GMT
Sounds like I had the best idea in not giving this game a second thought 3-2 at home in Gudjon’s first season was good. Iwelumo’s first goal right at the death. Think you might have quoted the wrong person here mate?
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 11, 2020 18:29:47 GMT
Can anyone remember a game against Millwall when it hasn't ever been a total bag of shite? The last decent game I remember against them was the 3-2 match when Iwelumo scored a late winner. Every match since then has been soul destroying.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 18:36:48 GMT
Utter garbage ?
Well, about a month or so back we would have lost this game. We are no world beaters but we are no longer utter garbage. We failed to break Millwall down but Millwall are up there not through being a fancy attacking side but because they are very well organised and difficult to beat. Sound familiar ?
We are trying to salvage what we can from this seasons wreckage. We may well finish in the bottom six but as long as we’re not a bottom three side I’ll take it. Boring, dull and tedious it may have been but we held our own and grabbed another vital point and our goal difference remained the same which could prove to be critical in the months ahead.
It’s progress. A million miles from the prem days granted, but things are looking better than they were in November, the gap between us and the team above is closing and just maybe we can scrape through this season. Who’d of thought that ?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 11, 2020 18:38:57 GMT
3-2 at home in Gudjon’s first season was good. Iwelumo’s first goal right at the death. Think you might have quoted the wrong person here mate? I keep doing that! The app is fucked!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 18:52:11 GMT
Think you might have quoted the wrong person here mate? I keep doing that! The app is fucked! That's it, blame yer phone
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Post by jarhead on Jan 11, 2020 19:11:04 GMT
We were totally bastard shite. Simple as that. Just a long list of ‘Those’ same wank clueless performances now. Total total shit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 19:23:38 GMT
I think O’Neill was reluctant to go too attacking in case we got caught, as we were the only team trying to win the game even with our original XI.
We’d have lost that game 2 months ago, file under “forgettable” and move on to the next game. 4 home games unbeaten, another point and a clean sheet....
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 11, 2020 19:30:36 GMT
Hard to play against a team whose only game plan centres around their opposition scoring 0. I’d take their approach as a compliment, and whilst we didn’t play as well as we should have, it’s a point.
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Post by jarhead on Jan 11, 2020 19:40:39 GMT
It was wank from us no matter what the Millwall approach was we eere clueless in possession.
Created fuck all again like v Reading!!!
Abysmal Stoke
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Post by noustie on Jan 11, 2020 19:43:59 GMT
Fucking hell, I swear some fans won't be happy until we're blowing away Klopp's Liverpool 0-8 at Anfield. Silly statement Totally agree. Butland's bound drop one in 1-8 Although it was totally shit that is a game a few months ago we would have lost comfortably. Been doubting whether we did the right thing getting rid of Rowett despite his general bawbagness but after that shit christ on a bike.
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Post by swampmongrel on Jan 11, 2020 19:56:14 GMT
Thought we were better against Fulham the other week than today. But, yeah, as others have pointed outed, wed have lost that a few months ago so it’s still progress of sorts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 20:01:55 GMT
We'd have lost that game a few months ago.
We were poor and it was a shit game. Another point on the board though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 20:08:37 GMT
Why did he wait so long to change it? So many poor players. Probably should have posted this when we lost at home to a dreadful Huddersfield team and didnt manage a shot on target. That was utter garbage.
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Post by Macko on Jan 11, 2020 20:11:37 GMT
Can anyone remember a game against Millwall when it hasn't ever been a total bag of shite? Yes beating them 3-2 at the Den, worth it despite being convinced I was going to be beaten to a pulp for the hour it took to get away from their ground.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jan 11, 2020 20:23:01 GMT
Is that now 4 unbeaten at home? 2 wins 2 draws. It's not pretty but the results are a million times better than we were and we are consistently picking up points.
As for why he didn't change it sooner, the options from the bench are garbage and I'd imagine he was concerned that Verlinden would weaken us defensively, especially from set plays.
This is a long term fix, his hands are tied with a totally unbalanced and largely useless squad. Stay patient because I think this is going to the wire.
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Post by neddy on Jan 11, 2020 20:23:34 GMT
Just think it was always going to be a draw Rowett was king of the draws when he managed us?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 11, 2020 20:35:49 GMT
Just think it was always going to be a draw Rowett was king of the draws when he managed us? As we improve more are going to come and employ those tactics, we have to take the initiative as the home side and work it out. Atm we are toothless in that situation, not sure campbell is the man for wide right in that situation, maybe on the counter attack but when we are trying to force the issue against a team prepared to sit back in numbers then for me n'goy will be the better option every time because he will take his man on and if he doesn't succeed the chances are he will win free kicks
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Post by neddy on Jan 11, 2020 20:40:40 GMT
Just think it was always going to be a draw Rowett was king of the draws when he managed us? As we improve more are going to come and employ those tactics, we have to take the initiative as the home side and work it out. Atm we are toothless in that situation, not sure campbell is the man for wide right in that situation, maybe on the counter attack but when we are trying to force the issue against a team prepared to sit back in numbers then for me n'goy will be the better option every time because he will take his man on and if he doesn't succeed the chances are he will win free kicks See you what you mean but everyone wanted Ince out rightly so and Campbell did well at Huddersfield so he was going to give him a go? Can’t agree re Ngoy as he has been there 6 years I think now and had a decent loan and not cut it so would be surprised if he ever made it?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 11, 2020 20:43:33 GMT
As we improve more are going to come and employ those tactics, we have to take the initiative as the home side and work it out. Atm we are toothless in that situation, not sure campbell is the man for wide right in that situation, maybe on the counter attack but when we are trying to force the issue against a team prepared to sit back in numbers then for me n'goy will be the better option every time because he will take his man on and if he doesn't succeed the chances are he will win free kicks See you what you mean but everyone wanted Ince out rightly so and Campbell did well at Huddersfield so he was going to give him a go? Can’t agree re Ngoy as he has been there 6 years I think now and had a decent loan and not cut it so would be surprised if he ever made it? For me a direct man with pace is what is needed in the team atm and that is what n'goy is, plus he has strength. He was only on the pitch 10 mins v brentford and did more than ince has all season, don't know what more else he can do to get a run of games, he either takes it or doesnt. I can see why he started campbell but in hindsight and thinking on ngoy would be better suited in tight games for me. Campbell looked a fish out of water there today with lots of bodies in front of him, hes no provider either
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Jan 11, 2020 20:47:12 GMT
Clucas was poor, not in the game enough and didn't do anything of any note with the ball. Vokes was hardly in the game Campbell not in the game. Not enough movement to break Millwall down, we were hoping they would just invite us in. Not in the game is such a lazy and unspecific criticism, I really hate it. I thought Vokes was good in the air, Campbell was very direct and looks our best right winger our of nowhere and Clucas was more disciplined than I expected we could get him to be and was pretty good. It's all relative, we weren't some unbelievable side who I expect to win most of our games from now till the end of the season but in about 2 months we've turned from a car crash of a team to a competent side that is showing solid mid-table form. This is the most solid and organised we've looked since Hughes' departure imo. Vokes was good in the air ? What are you taking ??? he won almost nothing in the air and is slower than an oil slick, unlike Powell who, at the same height, won 90% of the headers he went for.
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Post by Uncle cheese on Jan 11, 2020 21:11:44 GMT
Unfortunately the way this season has gone we just have to grind out the odd result and hope for the best
It’s shite but that’s the way it is
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