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Post by pottersrule on Jan 12, 2020 12:51:21 GMT
We're light years behind most team with our lack of quality on the ball. Apart from a couple of years under Hughes it's been the same for as long as I can remember. But do fans actually want it? I’ve never been convinced a lot of our fans actually understand football. Fonz was generally merely tolerated when he was here and that’s being kind to most. And he’s the best footballer we’ve had in 30 years. I’m only 32 so missed Hudson etc but definitely in my time as a Stoke fan, there seems to be a certain way most Stoke fans like. Back to front quick and feed from the scraps. "I've never been convinced a lot of our fans actually understand football" Absolutely priceless from the boards all knowing self appointed doyen of football.  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 12, 2020 12:59:32 GMT
But do fans actually want it? I’ve never been convinced a lot of our fans actually understand football. Fonz was generally merely tolerated when he was here and that’s being kind to most. And he’s the best footballer we’ve had in 30 years. I’m only 32 so missed Hudson etc but definitely in my time as a Stoke fan, there seems to be a certain way most Stoke fans like. Back to front quick and feed from the scraps. "I've never been convinced a lot of our fans actually understand football" Absolutely priceless from the boards all knowing self appointed doyen of football. True though isn’t it. Yesterday’s clamouring for the ball to go forward is a prime example. |
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 12, 2020 13:11:34 GMT
"I've never been convinced a lot of our fans actually understand football" Absolutely priceless from the boards all knowing self appointed doyen of football. True though isn’t it. Yesterday’s clamouring for the ball to go forward is a prime example. I think most fans appreciated N'zonzi as he was voted fans player of the season in his final year with us.Our own Nick Powell showed great quality on the ball at times yesterday and was roundly applauded. I think you do a lot of our fans a disservice by those comments. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 12, 2020 13:14:23 GMT
True though isn’t it. Yesterday’s clamouring for the ball to go forward is a prime example. I think most fans appreciated N'zonzi as he was voted fans player of the season in his final year with us.Our own Nick Powell showed great quality on the ball at times yesterday and was roundly applauded. I think you do a lot of our fans a disservice by those comments. They really didn’t. I was forever sticking up for him on here and at the ground. Powell was absolutely slated yesterday where I sit. The biggest groans and shouts were to get it forward when absolutely no one was free. Accompanied by groans when we lost the resulting hoof. 😂 |
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Post by nonameface on Jan 12, 2020 13:58:18 GMT
I'm pretty sure Batth and Lindsay can do it, it's just whilst chips are down it's probably better to 50p it.
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Post by chicagostokie on Jan 12, 2020 14:00:58 GMT
Watching the brentford game, Nathan Collins chested the best down at least twice. He's done it in other games when he's played too.
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Post by felonious on Jan 12, 2020 14:08:16 GMT
I'd donate 100 to charity if someone can find footage in the last 20 years of a stoke centre back cheating instead of heading a ball. Huth and Shawcross weren't exactly honest. Gobbing in the wind here Rawli. |
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Post by chad on Jan 12, 2020 14:48:40 GMT
Danny Ba’ath is a bloody awful centre back He needs to be benched and only used in extremis Ba’ath was an Arab Nationalist political party. Batth is a Stoke defender. Tell that to spellcheck 😊 |
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 12, 2020 16:11:43 GMT
I think most fans appreciated N'zonzi as he was voted fans player of the season in his final year with us.Our own Nick Powell showed great quality on the ball at times yesterday and was roundly applauded. I think you do a lot of our fans a disservice by those comments. They really didn’t. I was forever sticking up for him on here and at the ground. Powell was absolutely slated yesterday where I sit. The biggest groans and shouts were to get it forward when absolutely no one was free. Accompanied by groans when we lost the resulting hoof. 😂 Well how did N'zonzi win fans player of the year if most fans didn't rate him? |
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Post by sportsman on Jan 12, 2020 16:16:31 GMT
But do fans actually want it? I’ve never been convinced a lot of our fans actually understand football. Fonz was generally merely tolerated when he was here and that’s being kind to most. And he’s the best footballer we’ve had in 30 years. I’m only 32 so missed Hudson etc but definitely in my time as a Stoke fan, there seems to be a certain way most Stoke fans like. Back to front quick and feed from the scraps. "I've never been convinced a lot of our fans actually understand football" Absolutely priceless from the boards all knowing self appointed doyen of football. I've always said we have one of the.most thickest football fans. I said the same when hughes came in. Sometimes to keep possession you have to go sideways pr backwards before you can then play the forward pass. Yesterday we were keeping ball well then we had to pass sideways because the wide player was blocked off. Straight away the groans went up. The only set of fans that are as football thick as ours are Everton. Theirs are the same. |
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Post by sportsman on Jan 12, 2020 16:17:50 GMT
Huth and Shawcross weren't exactly honest. Gobbing in the wind here Rawli. Did they have 50 pence heads? |
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Jan 12, 2020 16:31:33 GMT
Danny Ba’ath is a bloody awful centre back He needs to be benched and only used in extremis Ba’ath was an Arab Nationalist political party. Batth is a Stoke defender. Forgive my auto correct on my iPad |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 12, 2020 16:52:10 GMT
They really didn’t. I was forever sticking up for him on here and at the ground. Powell was absolutely slated yesterday where I sit. The biggest groans and shouts were to get it forward when absolutely no one was free. Accompanied by groans when we lost the resulting hoof. 😂 Well how did N'zonzi win fans player of the year if most fans didn't rate him? Based on 2/3 months where they couldn’t do anything but. For the majority of his time here he was tolerated and that’s being kind. |
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 12, 2020 16:59:22 GMT
Danny Baath is shocking, so immobile and has a head like a toblerone the ball comes off that many angles
Would like to see Collins and lindsey start to pair but not sure if they are both left sided.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 12, 2020 17:05:21 GMT
It wouldn't be too bad if they could head it properly either. Batth's heading is atrocious. It looked to me like he was afraid to attack the ball with his forehead. Unacceptable*. |
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Post by kustokie on Jan 12, 2020 17:09:17 GMT
I think most fans appreciated N'zonzi as he was voted fans player of the season in his final year with us.Our own Nick Powell showed great quality on the ball at times yesterday and was roundly applauded. I think you do a lot of our fans a disservice by those comments. They really didn’t. I was forever sticking up for him on here and at the ground. Powell was absolutely slated yesterday where I sit. The biggest groans and shouts were to get it forward when absolutely no one was free. Accompanied by groans when we lost the resulting hoof. 😂 That the essence of our problem when teams sit back and let us fiddle around in front of them. There was no width and very, very movement up front; so Allen and Powell had no options. |
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Jan 12, 2020 17:17:07 GMT
I'd love an olf scouting report from you mate
Name
Gerry Taggert
Profile
Commanding centre half and leader. Left footed no nonsense defender who isnt blessed with pace.
Sign Y/N
No - can't chest the ball so I wouldn't pay him in washers.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 12, 2020 17:43:31 GMT
I'd love an olf scouting report from you mate Name Gerry Taggert Profile Commanding centre half and leader. Left footed no nonsense defender who isnt blessed with pace. Sign Y/N No - can't chest the ball so I wouldn't pay him in washers. 50 pence head? No. Ok then he can sign. All the best centre backs can bring the ball down when no one is within 20 yards of them. It's just uneducated football thickos like yourself that don't think it's possible. |
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 12, 2020 17:49:11 GMT
Well how did N'zonzi win fans player of the year if most fans didn't rate him? Based on 2/3 months where they couldn’t do anything but. For the majority of his time here he was tolerated and that’s being kind. It's like story time reading some of your posts.Really lad with your imagination you should be writing children's fiction or maybe you already do. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 12, 2020 17:51:17 GMT
Based on 2/3 months where they couldn’t do anything but. For the majority of his time here he was tolerated and that’s being kind. It's like story time reading some of your posts.Really lad with your imagination you should be writing children's fiction or maybe you already do. You clearly can’t remember how it was then. |
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 12, 2020 18:03:45 GMT
It's like story time reading some of your posts.Really lad with your imagination you should be writing children's fiction or maybe you already do. You clearly can’t remember how it was then. No I think dementia must be setting in,I can still enjoy reading some of your posts until the brain fog takes complete hold.We will then hold parity in that neither of us will have a clue what we are talking about. |
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Post by hogansgoals on Jan 12, 2020 18:12:56 GMT
Danny Ba’ath is a bloody awful centre back He needs to be benched and only used in extremis Ba’ath was an Arab Nationalist political party. Batth is a Stoke defender. Saddam Hussein's party |
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 12, 2020 18:15:14 GMT
Imagine if Stoke played and won like Man City. Shit would be lost left right and centre.
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Jan 12, 2020 20:54:39 GMT
I'd love an olf scouting report from you mate Name Gerry Taggert Profile Commanding centre half and leader. Left footed no nonsense defender who isnt blessed with pace. Sign Y/N No - can't chest the ball so I wouldn't pay him in washers. 50 pence head? No. Ok then he can sign. All the best centre backs can bring the ball down when no one is within 20 yards of them. It's just uneducated football thickos like yourself that don't think it's possible. Well I wasn't being offensive just an attempt at humour. Seeing as you are slinging the insults about. Go bed and sleep Wake up Read your title thread. And think to yourself, is this an inspired insight into stoke city requirements at the minuteto turn the season around? MON has said we have fuck all head room for signings and the final third is the priority..... Not sportsman though, no, he wants him to piss his money up the wall on a defender who can chest a ball. Proper have Leeds and West Brom shitting themselves🤔 |
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Post by sportsman on Jan 12, 2020 21:33:00 GMT
50 pence head? No. Ok then he can sign. All the best centre backs can bring the ball down when no one is within 20 yards of them. It's just uneducated football thickos like yourself that don't think it's possible. Well I wasn't being offensive just an attempt at humour. Seeing as you are slinging the insults about. Go bed and sleep Wake up Read your title thread. And think to yourself, is this an inspired insight into stoke city requirements at the minuteto turn the season around? MON has said we have fuck all head room for signings and the final third is the priority..... Not sportsman though, no, he wants him to piss his money up the wall on a defender who can chest a ball. Proper have Leeds and West Brom shitting themselves🤔 A lot of centre backs do the same not just a criticism of stoke. Surely someone at stoke can coach defenders to do it. Its ot rocket science. If a forward is close head it clear. If the opposition launch the ball into our half and the ball is in the air going towards one of our defenders and no one is anywhere near him, please advise him to bring the ball down rather than heading it straight back at them or out of play. By asking a professional footballer to control a ball is not asking a lot. I'm not after anything they shouldn't be able to do. Just something that is simple and keeps us with the ball. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 13, 2020 13:48:50 GMT
Well I wasn't being offensive just an attempt at humour. Seeing as you are slinging the insults about. Go bed and sleep Wake up Read your title thread. And think to yourself, is this an inspired insight into stoke city requirements at the minuteto turn the season around? MON has said we have fuck all head room for signings and the final third is the priority..... Not sportsman though, no, he wants him to piss his money up the wall on a defender who can chest a ball. Proper have Leeds and West Brom shitting themselves🤔 A lot of centre backs do the same not just a criticism of stoke. Surely someone at stoke can coach defenders to do it. Its ot rocket science. If a forward is close head it clear. If the opposition launch the ball into our half and the ball is in the air going towards one of our defenders and no one is anywhere near him, please advise him to bring the ball down rather than heading it straight back at them or out of play. By asking a professional footballer to control a ball is not asking a lot. I'm not after anything they shouldn't be able to do. Just something that is simple and keeps us with the ball. Blood hell mate, even if they do master the chesting part we've then got to work on the passing part - this'll take years. |
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Post by stroller on Jan 13, 2020 13:56:58 GMT
Please for the good of stoke city fuck Danny Baath off. His head is pathetic. A ball comes to him and he throws his entire weight behind it to head a simple back out of play. The bloke is fucking diabolical. I can half cope with Lindsay as I do think he has the heart for a centre half. However that shit house with a wrist band, he is abysmal How do you expect him to head a ball with a quiff like that?  |
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Post by potterspele on Jan 13, 2020 14:39:12 GMT
It's not so much them chesting the ball down as the ability to make that decision in a split second and having the ability to control it sufficiently and then look up and decide where to pass it, often with players closing the gap. They have been programmed to head it back into the centre most of the time to minimise the risk.
Most of the players we have attracted, and are likely to attract, wont have that kind of composure as they will be playing at a higher level because of their ability to do just that. Potentially Collins/Souttar may possess more of these sort of attributes given the way football has changed in their formative years.
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 13, 2020 14:51:54 GMT
I think most fans appreciated N'zonzi as he was voted fans player of the season in his final year with us.Our own Nick Powell showed great quality on the ball at times yesterday and was roundly applauded. I think you do a lot of our fans a disservice by those comments. They really didn’t. I was forever sticking up for him on here and at the ground. Powell was absolutely slated yesterday where I sit. The biggest groans and shouts were to get it forward when absolutely no one was free. Accompanied by groans when we lost the resulting hoof. 😂 How do you know they weren't groaning that nobody was free and showing for the forward pass? Also Bojan was a better footballer than Zonz  |
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 13, 2020 14:52:17 GMT
How many times has a centre back got to head the ball when no bugger is within 20 yards of him. I can't remember the last centre back in 20 years to chest the ball for stoke Muni |
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