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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on Jan 10, 2020 21:52:14 GMT
First VAR decision I think I have really enjoyed! The faces on those cockneys ...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 21:54:10 GMT
Absolute joke though.
The death of football as a spectator sport has just had another nail rammed into its coffin.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 10, 2020 21:56:37 GMT
Pleased we’re in the Championship where there’s no VAR. Sheff Utd look a very good side. Direct but good to watch. Not sure about the keeper though he comes out for crosses and commands his area.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 10, 2020 21:56:54 GMT
Absolute joke though. The death of football as a spectator sport has just had another nail rammed into its coffin. Absolute scandalous bag of wank system isn't it. West Ham deserved fuck all from the game but that's not the point. This shambles can't continue next season can it?
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Post by shipshape on Jan 10, 2020 21:57:13 GMT
It needs disbanding with immediate effect.
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Jan 10, 2020 21:58:19 GMT
Why does it need disbanding? It was handball end of
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 10, 2020 22:02:38 GMT
All VAR has done is apply the rules of the game.
I hate how VAR is being used for offsides but it wasn’t the problem tonight. It’s the ridiculous handball rules.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 22:05:04 GMT
All VAR has done is apply the rules of the game. I hate how VAR is being used for offsides but it wasn’t the problem tonight. It’s the ridiculous handball rules. This Personally should've been a goal - Rice definitely didn't have intent to keep the ball in his path by using his arm. Ridiculous
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 22:08:00 GMT
Absolute joke though. The death of football as a spectator sport has just had another nail rammed into its coffin. Absolute scandalous bag of wank system isn't it. West Ham deserved fuck all from the game but that's not the point. This shambles can't continue next season can it? Knowing our footballing authorities, I'd expect nothing else. I was just sitting here thinking, fuck me, what a month mental that superb West Ham following were having. Then within a minute they're all calming down thinking "hang on a min, this could be disallowed for something that was completley accidental and none of us in this ground have got the first fucking clue why". Why the fuck have the powers that be decided to change the rules of our game to suit this fucked up Video refereeing system, that basically is only good for disallowing the very thing that we all go to watch it for?
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Jan 10, 2020 22:08:11 GMT
All VAR has done is apply the rules of the game. I hate how VAR is being used for offsides but it wasn’t the problem tonight. It’s the ridiculous handball rules. This Personally should've been a goal - Rice definitely didn't have intent to keep the ball in his path by using his arm. Ridiculous by using his arm is handball
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 10, 2020 22:08:49 GMT
Var has informed this fucking idiotic law in the first place.
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Post by adamsson on Jan 10, 2020 22:09:54 GMT
All VAR has done is apply the rules of the game. I hate how VAR is being used for offsides but it wasn’t the problem tonight. It’s the ridiculous handball rules. This Personally should've been a goal - Rice definitely didn't have intent to keep the ball in his path by using his arm. Ridiculous You sure about that watch it again he controlled it with his hand
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Post by shipshape on Jan 10, 2020 22:20:55 GMT
Why does it need disbanding? It was handball end of By the letter of the stupid law, I can't disagree with that. But football is about spontaneity and enjoyment. VAR is destroying that. I'd rather have wrong decisions than having a last minute away equaliser chalked off after celebrating like fuck. And I thought it would be a good addition. I was wrong.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 10, 2020 22:24:37 GMT
i hate West Ham but that decision has just killed that game.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 10, 2020 22:25:21 GMT
Can you imagine if we'd been nervously waiting to see if VAR had found anything wrong with Vokes' winner against Sheffield Wednesday on Boxing Day?
Farcical
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 10, 2020 22:30:23 GMT
This season will be known only for VAR.
Hopefully next season...back to proper football.
Its taking more out of the game than it is putting in
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Post by shipshape on Jan 10, 2020 22:30:31 GMT
Can you imagine if we'd been nervously waiting to see if VAR had found anything wrong with Vokes' winner against Sheffield Wednesday on Boxing Day? Farcical I can, or the last minute equaliser v West Ham that Arnie scored. That's why I hate it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2020 22:36:00 GMT
That goal should stand.
The rule is an ass.
Not VAR’s fault in this instance though. The law itself is the farce.
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Post by shipshape on Jan 10, 2020 22:39:39 GMT
That goal should stand. The rule is an ass. Not VAR’s fault in this instance though. The law itself is the farce. The law is indeed an ass. But VAR is not quick enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 22:43:21 GMT
That goal should stand. The rule is an ass. Not VAR’s fault in this instance though. The law itself is the farce. I'll be honest though Bayern, I'd never heard of this rule before this season. Is it a new ruling or have I missed summat for the last however many years? I don't remember any goals being disallowed in previous seasons for accidental handball.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2020 22:43:35 GMT
That goal should stand. The rule is an ass. Not VAR’s fault in this instance though. The law itself is the farce. The law is indeed an ass. But VAR is not quick enough. No idea I wasn’t watching but it made the right decision in this case. And no idea why it wasn’t fast as that’s pretty obvious within the shite rules they currently have.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2020 22:44:18 GMT
That goal should stand. The rule is an ass. Not VAR’s fault in this instance though. The law itself is the farce. I'll be honest though Bayern, I'd never heard of this rule before this season. Is it a new ruling or have I missed summat for the last however many years? I don't remember any goals being disallowed in previous seasons for accidental handball. It’s a new rule.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 22:49:30 GMT
I'll be honest though Bayern, I'd never heard of this rule before this season. Is it a new ruling or have I missed summat for the last however many years? I don't remember any goals being disallowed in previous seasons for accidental handball. It’s a new rule. Thought as much. Brought in to justify the use of VAR. The "got to have the correct decision" brigade are taking over and ruining our game as a spectator sport, which after all is exactly what it is. Ah well as long as the neutral sitting on his armchair at home is happy who gives a fuck.
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 10, 2020 22:50:31 GMT
This Personally should've been a goal - Rice definitely didn't have intent to keep the ball in his path by using his arm. Ridiculous You sure about that watch it again he controlled it with his hand Got to disagree mate, the Sheff United player headed it at point blank range into Rice, his arm did not deviate towards the ball, completely accidental. Goal should stand, but I suppose the powers that be changed the rules because "they can"! The sooner VAR is used as it was designed the better, or just get rid, that would be better still.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2020 22:52:06 GMT
Thought as much. Brought in to justify the use of VAR. The "got to have the correct decision" brigade are taking over and ruining our game as a spectator sport, which after all is exactly what it is. Ah well as long as the neutral sitting on his armchair at home is happy who gives a fuck. It’s something similar to what Lineker has been peddling for ages and it’s always pissed me off. But he wanted penalties for any handball in the ball box. Both that and this are totally shite.
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Post by jeycov on Jan 10, 2020 23:04:15 GMT
Can you imagine if we'd been nervously waiting to see if VAR had found anything wrong with Vokes' winner against Sheffield Wednesday on Boxing Day? Farcical But if it’s the right decision then that’s how it should be We should have had at least 2 penalties this season, seen red cards issued etc but have had decisions go in our favour This isn’t VAR it’s the new interpretation of the rule and it needs revisiting Before VAR I believe that a high percentage of controversial decisions went in favour of the top teams, players were punished on their reputation on some occasions We’ve all accepted, disappearing spray to Mark 10 yards for a free kick, goal line technology, VAR used to help officials get to the correct decision is vital with so much at stake in each game
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 10, 2020 23:14:17 GMT
Can you imagine if we'd been nervously waiting to see if VAR had found anything wrong with Vokes' winner against Sheffield Wednesday on Boxing Day? Farcical But if it’s the right decision then that’s how it should be We should have had at least 2 penalties this season, seen red cards issued etc but have had decisions go in our favour This isn’t VAR it’s the new interpretation of the rule and it needs revisiting Before VAR I believe that a high percentage of controversial decisions went in favour of the top teams, players were punished on their reputation on some occasions We’ve all accepted, disappearing spray to Mark 10 yards for a free kick, goal line technology, VAR used to help officials get to the correct decision is vital with so much at stake in each game Why is it vital that the correct decision is made? Football exists purely for the fans. If 99% of supporters who attend Premier League games say VAR is ruining their experience then it needs to be addressed.
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Post by shipshape on Jan 10, 2020 23:16:38 GMT
Can you imagine if we'd been nervously waiting to see if VAR had found anything wrong with Vokes' winner against Sheffield Wednesday on Boxing Day? Farcical But if it’s the right decision then that’s how it should be We should have had at least 2 penalties this season, seen red cards issued etc but have had decisions go in our favour This isn’t VAR it’s the new interpretation of the rule and it needs revisiting Before VAR I believe that a high percentage of controversial decisions went in favour of the top teams, players were punished on their reputation on some occasions We’ve all accepted, disappearing spray to Mark 10 yards for a free kick, goal line technology, VAR used to help officials get to the correct decision is vital with so much at stake in each game Goal line technology is pretty much instantaneous though and doesn't really take away a goal that's already been celebrated. The spray stuff is not really comparable to VAR. It has about as much impact on the game as corner flags. I too think decisions should be right and undoubtedly the big teams receive bias. But if getting it right, takes away that feeling of scoring a late goal then I'd rather settle for refs getting it wrong. I can't believe I've just said that but there you go. It's here to stay, there's no doubt about it. I just hope they fix it before we get back in the Prem.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 10, 2020 23:17:32 GMT
The decision to disallow the goal was against the spirit of the game. It was not an intentional foul.
VAR over the Xmas break in particular has (1) allowed certain referees to abdicate responsibility for making a decision and (2) created ridiculous guidelines for offside whereby mm are being penalised in the flow or passage of play.
The architects of this insanity are actually receiving a salary, the world (FA) have gone mad.
Don't get me started about the inconsistent use of VAR in the FA Cup.
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Post by shipshape on Jan 10, 2020 23:19:24 GMT
But if it’s the right decision then that’s how it should be We should have had at least 2 penalties this season, seen red cards issued etc but have had decisions go in our favour This isn’t VAR it’s the new interpretation of the rule and it needs revisiting Before VAR I believe that a high percentage of controversial decisions went in favour of the top teams, players were punished on their reputation on some occasions We’ve all accepted, disappearing spray to Mark 10 yards for a free kick, goal line technology, VAR used to help officials get to the correct decision is vital with so much at stake in each game Football exists purely for the fans. Alas, that is just not true any more.
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