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Post by slicko on Jan 9, 2020 22:05:11 GMT
With Stoke having the joint lowest amount of draws in the league, can anything be read into it?
I’d guess that the survival struggle increases the risk taking, making the draw almost impossible.
The art of salvaging a draw from likely defeat has been well and truly lost.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 22:07:00 GMT
I blame Boskamp, he started it.....
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 9, 2020 22:14:13 GMT
Didn't we have the most draws last season?
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 9, 2020 22:14:16 GMT
The art of salvaging a draw from likely defeat has been well and truly lost. I won't be complaining if that lost art is all like the Sheffield Wednesday game! It makes a change, as last season we had more draws than anyone. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 22:22:03 GMT
Didn't we have the most draws last season? Under Rowett we had a comical amount of draws. He had bizarre results in general, we went on a spate of scoring quite a lot but we conceded even more and then he had us keeping goals out but failing to score any at all, really struggled to find a balance. As much as his results weren't actually always bad I thought his football was, almost without fail, absolute dogshit and his man management appalling. Him and Jones are nice reminders of how good it is to have a level headed, professional manager for the first time in some time. |
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Post by senbonzakura on Jan 9, 2020 22:28:48 GMT
I have never seen a team concede goals like we have this year and last year really. I've watched some poor Stoke sides in my time where you are expecting to concede any second. I've never seen a team be on top so many times then as soon as the opposition cross the half way line for the first time the ball is in the back of the net by some bonkers route that leaves you just scratching your head. The worrying thing was it happened so many times again and again. Then the nerves set in, like cold wave passing through the stadium at the first time if an expected mistake. Almost like a dementor sucking all hope out of the place. The fans were nervy, the players were nervy but most importantly the most nervous was the manager and it radiated out from him like a virus infecting everything. The mistakes fed the nerves and the nerves bred the mistakes, it was a vicious circle.
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Post by lordb on Jan 9, 2020 22:41:31 GMT
22 draws last season
Three,I think,so far this season.
Majority of the defeats have been by one goal and a fair few where we have scored first.
Far more confident of winning games than scraping a draw.
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Post by pinoypotter on Jan 10, 2020 0:35:59 GMT
Wasn't it six 0-0 draws on the trot under Jones last season?
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Post by leicspotter on Jan 10, 2020 8:02:59 GMT
22 draws last season Three,I think,so far this season. Majority of the defeats have been by one goal and a fair few where we have scored first. Far more confident of winning games than scraping a draw. ...but wouldn't it be nice if we could have converted 3 or 4 of this season's narrow defeats into draws? Certainly take the pressure off our current position |
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Post by Davef on Jan 10, 2020 8:27:08 GMT
22 draws last season Three,I think,so far this season. Majority of the defeats have been by one goal and a fair few where we have scored first. Far more confident of winning games than scraping a draw. ...but wouldn't it be nice if we could have converted 3 or 4 of this season's narrow defeats into draws? Certainly take the pressure off our current position Or we could have not scored the injury time winners against Wigan and Sheffield Wednesday and been no better off? |
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Post by lordb on Jan 10, 2020 12:14:51 GMT
...but wouldn't it be nice if we could have converted 3 or 4 of this season's narrow defeats into draws? Certainly take the pressure off our current position Or we could have not scored the injury time winners against Wigan and Sheffield Wednesday and been no better off? true but in an average season we would have a couple of last minute winners (which we have) & a few games where we have scraped a draw from losing positions, which we haven't done, not once. |
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Post by Roy Cropper on Jan 10, 2020 13:50:52 GMT
Didn't we break a Championship record last year for number of draws?
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 10, 2020 14:19:41 GMT
Wasn't it six 0-0 draws on the trot under Jones last season? Four I think |
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 10, 2020 15:16:39 GMT
Never realised quite how marked this was under our last three managers. We had more draws than any other result over a period of almost two years, and 80 games, accounting for 41% of results. That's a pretty crazy run, given the average percentage of draws in matches is usually around 23%.  |
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Post by boothenesque on Jan 10, 2020 15:25:27 GMT
Never realised quite how marked this was under our last three managers. We had more draws than any other result over a period of almost two years, and 80 games, accounting for 41% of results. That's a pretty crazy run, given the average percentage of draws in matches is usually around 23%. I hadn't realised that Rowatt was not that bad in comparison. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2020 15:26:25 GMT
Never realised quite how marked this was under our last three managers. We had more draws than any other result over a period of almost two years, and 80 games, accounting for 41% of results. That's a pretty crazy run, given the average percentage of draws in matches is usually around 23%. It's the main thing that really pissed me off with Lambert. We needed wins and he just didn't go for them. MON is in the same position really or was. Now, we can afford to draw a few and we have to get that defensive resilience back at some point. |
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Post by Billy the kid on Jan 11, 2020 16:56:02 GMT
You ask you got
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Post by slicko on Jan 11, 2020 17:52:51 GMT
Not exactly. Salvaging a draw is to turn imminent defeat into a point gained. This afternoon’s bore fest doesn’t fit the description. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 12, 2020 14:07:36 GMT
Not exactly. Salvaging a draw is to turn imminent defeat into a point gained. This afternoon’s bore fest doesn’t fit the description. You are right - we should have won that and it was Millwall who salvaged the draw in this case. However that was exactly the sort of game we would have lost earlier in the season so it is a move in the right direction at least. |
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Post by rawli on Jan 12, 2020 14:23:17 GMT
Not exactly. Salvaging a draw is to turn imminent defeat into a point gained. This afternoon’s bore fest doesn’t fit the description. Aren't they all imminent defeats? |
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Post by slicko on Jan 12, 2020 16:38:33 GMT
Not exactly. Salvaging a draw is to turn imminent defeat into a point gained. This afternoon’s bore fest doesn’t fit the description. Aren't they all imminent defeats? Please explain. |
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 12, 2020 16:51:53 GMT
We completely lost the art of drawing under Jones, instead managed to turn most games into defeat. The amount of points lost as a result of not picking up draws was shocking.
Good thing is now we are picking up these draws instead of giving games away.
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Jan 12, 2020 20:46:43 GMT
I traveled up yesterday in the hope that we would get a point. We need to keep picking up a point or points from games. Being realistic we will have games where we lose and yesterday could have been one of those games.
West Brom will be tough and then we have the chance of taking on Swansea which may offer the chance of another 3 points.
So let’s pick up points and avoid defeat! Encourage the team even if we are losing. Let them know we are behind them all the way!
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