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Post by geendienst on Jan 9, 2020 0:06:08 GMT
This has come up somewhere else. I grew up in N Staffs and always considered it to be in the north.
Do you?
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jan 9, 2020 0:30:18 GMT
More to the east for me.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jan 9, 2020 1:43:08 GMT
As long as Shefali is on the telly, we’re in the Midlands 😉
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Post by felonious on Jan 9, 2020 5:30:59 GMT
It is most definitely in the north....the north Midlands.
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Post by lordb on Jan 9, 2020 6:58:24 GMT
It's nowhere.
Not the Midlands
Not the North
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 9, 2020 7:28:08 GMT
Yeah, I’ve never really related to the North or the Midlands. I will say this though. When we were doing the industrial revolution, Manc was still fully agrarian.
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Post by Eggybread on Jan 9, 2020 7:37:48 GMT
Because SOT is an unusual city in shape (its approx 12 miles in length).I think people who live in Kisdgrove ,Talke will think differently than people from Meir etc.
North in England-possibly
North in UK-No
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Post by Northy on Jan 9, 2020 8:33:51 GMT
As long as Shefali is on the telly, we’re in the Midlands 😉 who is that? |
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Post by potterinleeds on Jan 9, 2020 9:44:52 GMT
It's nowhere. Not the Midlands Not the North Exactly - No one has better stated the peculiar location and nature of S-O-T and North Staffordshire in general than Arnold Bennett in the opening 3 pages of The Old Wives' Tale. You could go further; I've always thought the whole county is essentially two parts in character, splitting north and south of Stafford - in fact, growing up at the north end of Stafford, the town itself seemed to gravitate towards either Stoke or Wolverhampton depending on what end you lived. For me, this peculiar nature of Staffordshire is both its attraction & magic and also its drawback. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jan 9, 2020 10:00:54 GMT
I've always thought of the north-south spilt as being roughly where the Trent runs, so yes, we're in the north.
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Post by franklin66 on Jan 9, 2020 10:07:25 GMT
Stoke in not in the north, middle or south it's the centre of the world.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 10:23:20 GMT
This thread topic crops up at least once a year, and there's never any resolution.
Personally, I think North Staffordshire is a landlocked island, neither north nor midlands. It's just a cultural anomaly with its own distinct character.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jan 9, 2020 12:24:37 GMT
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Jan 9, 2020 12:52:33 GMT
The pure "North/South test"* (ignoring any notion of "Midlands") is this:
If you walk into a chippy in a given town and ask for Chips and Gravy, do they a) look at you funny; or b) serve it up, no questions asked?
If b), you're in the North. By that token, Stoke is very much North.
Anecdotally, I grew up in Biddulph and never considered myself a Midlander - more North if anything. As I always say - Stoke's not far enough North to be proper North for some people, but too far North to be "Midlands". Stoke is just...Stoke.
* I'd be curious to know where the cut-off for this test is. I had a mate at uni who was from Rugby, and he admitted he'd never heard of Chips & Gravy until he moved to Manchester. Not being a frequenter of Birmingham, I wonder if it's somewhere South of there?
Also - On a related note, WTF is that "liquor" they put on pie and mash in London? It looks abhorrent.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Jan 9, 2020 18:55:36 GMT
I live down south.
If someone calls me a northerner, I correct them telling them I'm a midlander.
If someone calls me a midlander, I correct them telling them I'm a northerner.
:-)
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Post by werrington on Jan 9, 2020 19:01:29 GMT
I class myself as more Manchester/Liverpool than Birmingham
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Post by Boothen on Jan 9, 2020 19:06:22 GMT
Because SOT is an unusual city in shape (its approx 12 miles in length).I think people who live in Kisdgrove ,Talke will think differently than people from Meir etc. North in England-possibly North in UK-No What do Kidsgrove and Talke have to do with Stoke-on-Trent? |
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Post by werrington on Jan 9, 2020 19:12:19 GMT
Because SOT is an unusual city in shape (its approx 12 miles in length).I think people who live in Kisdgrove ,Talke will think differently than people from Meir etc. North in England-possibly North in UK-No What do Kidsgrove and Talke have to do with Stoke-on-Trent? How do you get an elephant to talk....put it on the Kidsgrove bus I know I know |
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Post by lordb on Jan 9, 2020 20:06:24 GMT
The pure "North/South test"* (ignoring any notion of "Midlands") is this: If you walk into a chippy in a given town and ask for Chips and Gravy, do they a) look at you funny; or b) serve it up, no questions asked? If b), you're in the North. By that token, Stoke is very much North. Anecdotally, I grew up in Biddulph and never considered myself a Midlander - more North if anything. As I always say - Stoke's not far enough North to be proper North for some people, but too far North to be "Midlands". Stoke is just...Stoke. * I'd be curious to know where the cut-off for this test is. I had a mate at uni who was from Rugby, and he admitted he'd never heard of Chips & Gravy until he moved to Manchester. Not being a frequenter of Birmingham, I wonder if it's somewhere South of there? Also - On a related note, WTF is that "liquor" they put on pie and mash in London? It looks abhorrent. Yes 'The Gravy Line' is the purest North South test |
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Post by Eggybread on Jan 9, 2020 20:17:39 GMT
Because SOT is an unusual city in shape (its approx 12 miles in length).I think people who live in Kisdgrove ,Talke will think differently than people from Meir etc. North in England-possibly North in UK-No What do Kidsgrove and Talke have to do with Stoke-on-Trent? Nothing whatsoever. |
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Post by wilcopotter on Jan 9, 2020 20:22:34 GMT
Yes, compared to Bournemouth. No, compared to Inverness. It’s all relative really.
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Post by felonious on Jan 9, 2020 20:28:46 GMT
Because SOT is an unusual city in shape (its approx 12 miles in length).I think people who live in Kisdgrove ,Talke will think differently than people from Meir etc. North in England-possibly North in UK-No What do Kidsgrove and Talke have to do with Stoke-on-Trent? My favourite "match report" from the Lost Boyos in Kidsgrove  "The streets were deadly quiet and me and Gibbo felt a bit like extras in The Walking Dead, especially with our surroundings slightly resembling a sort of provincial dystopian world." lostboyos.wordpress.com/2016/03/31/lost-in-kidsgrove/ |
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Post by telfordstoke on Jan 9, 2020 20:29:13 GMT
As a Londoner , when I first lived in Stoke I considered I had moved up north. Now I live in Shropshire I consider it north midlands .
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 9, 2020 20:45:39 GMT
Officially Stoke-on-Trent is in the West Midlands.
Personally, I would suggest that Shropshire is in the Midlands, Staffordshire is in the Midlands, Derbyshire (although I accept it's difficult to suggest that some of its northern towns are actually in the midlands) is in the Midlands and Nottinghamshire is in the Midlands and the counties immediately North of those four counties, are in the North.
Stoke is in the Midlands and Crewe is in the North.
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Post by lordb on Jan 9, 2020 21:13:45 GMT
Officially Stoke-on-Trent is in the West Midlands. Personally, I would suggest that Shropshire is in the Midlands, Staffordshire is in the Midlands, Derbyshire (although I accept it's difficult to suggest that some of its northern towns are actually in the midlands) is in the Midlands and Nottinghamshire is in the Midlands and the counties immediately North of those four counties, are in the North. Officially can go fuck itself. Midlands is an argument West Midlands... just no I actually like Brummies, generally friendlier than Mancs (for example) but we are nothing to do with them. I'll accept Mercians at a push |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 9, 2020 21:37:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 22:05:45 GMT
I agree with Paul, Stoke is in the Midlands (north west midlands), and Crewe is in the north.
BBC North West sports results never mention Stoke (or Vale) as a northern or north west team, but Crewe is mentioned.
In the East Midlands Mansfield is classed as Midlands whereas Chesterfield (12 miles away) is considered in the north.
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Post by yes on Jan 10, 2020 4:57:57 GMT
I agree with Paul, Stoke is in the Midlands (north west midlands), and Crewe is in the north. BBC North West sports results never mention Stoke (or Vale) as a northern or north west team, but Crewe is mentioned. In the East Midlands Mansfield is classed as Midlands whereas Chesterfield (12 miles away) is considered in the north. I'll take Midlands, anything that distances us from Crewe is alright with me 😉 |
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Post by elystokie on Jan 10, 2020 12:19:23 GMT
Stoke in not in the north, middle or south it's the centre of the world. It's like Le Pays Basque I reckon, we should go for independence too, we'll set up the Naval base on Westport Lake  |
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Post by starkiller on Jan 10, 2020 12:31:40 GMT
Does it matter? It is where it is.
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