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Post by lordb on Jan 4, 2020 17:20:26 GMT
He doesn't get any game time for the reserves because we don't have a reserve side So he’s basically had no game time etc? Which is ridiculous really. How are players supposed to improve and get up to speed Absolutely correct This isn't a Stoke City issue, there is no reserve team football. Consequently there lots of footballers who don't play for long periods. Consequently when they do get a rare outing they are miles off the pace Utter madness.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 17:21:52 GMT
Having watched that maybe folk will start getting off Jack’s back now. Why, because another goalkeeper has made 1 mistake ? Butland has made almost a dozen !!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 17:30:20 GMT
His mistake cost us the game. I’ve seen amputees move there feet quicker ffs. However, I’m not sure if he’s been getting much game time I.e the reserves etc so I’m willing give him the benefit of the doubt. He made a decent save late on where his vision was probably blocked. Far too early write the lad off That's a good point, he's hardly broke sweat since last may,like I said earlier, he's rusty
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Post by borat on Jan 4, 2020 17:30:23 GMT
here we go again, player is crap because we lose, how can you judge someone after 1 game? Impossible. Was Ronaldo judged after his first game? We are out the FA cup so we concentrate on staying up, which is the priority/.
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Post by boweryboy on Jan 4, 2020 17:32:22 GMT
So much for our new goalkeeping coach....see why Butland keeps getting in,although what Federici did wrong to lose his place only O’Neill knows !!!
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jan 4, 2020 17:53:34 GMT
I still don't get what Federici did wrong? He should be our first choice.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 4, 2020 17:56:05 GMT
Talking goalkeepers, if you get chance, have a look at the state of the Mansfield goalkeeper in their game v grimsby.
They'd definitely take Davies on loan
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 17:59:27 GMT
I expected better, poor keeping that, slow movement of feet poor, not a good start for him Or, maybe a little rust to be expected. But it's the age old keeper problem. One little mistake and he gets blamed for losing the match. Whereas Campbell, who made a stupid foul, which brought the free kick, gets none. It's tough on Davies, because it's the only time in the game he gets to show himself, and his next chance, to redeem himself, probably doesn't come until we play another cup game (unless we have an injury crisis among our goalies).
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jan 4, 2020 18:10:46 GMT
Steve Davies would have done a better job with the cross. Right on cue. I was hoping it would be chalked off
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 18:15:54 GMT
I was hoping it would be chalked off Give us a break Malcolm
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Post by somersetstokie on Jan 4, 2020 18:41:25 GMT
Whilst on the merits of goalkeepers, it was good to see Daniel Bachmann get a run out for Watford today.
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Post by dioufsboots on Jan 4, 2020 19:06:21 GMT
Am hoping just a bit of rust and he comes good else were going need a new keeper next season as well as all the outfield were going need
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jan 4, 2020 20:34:39 GMT
Six inches taller and its a catch, or the flukey cross was 2 inches lower it was a catch. His positioning was for a cross and they fluked it over Davies into the far corner. Gouranga. What's flukey about a cross that goes in at the back post about 3 foot from the ground? You obviously didn't watch the match Gouranga.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 4, 2020 20:35:33 GMT
Am hoping just a bit of rust and he comes good else were going need a new keeper next season as well as all the outfield were going need He isn't coming good. Forget that one.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 4, 2020 20:38:09 GMT
Whilst on the merits of goalkeepers, it was good to see Daniel Bachmann get a run out for Watford today. Supposed to have dropped a bollock for one of Tranmere’s goals but yes good to see him playing
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Post by slicko on Jan 4, 2020 20:38:16 GMT
I still don't get what Federici did wrong? He should be our first choice. Shall we keep rotating the keepers and singing the praises of the one not chosen?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 4, 2020 20:46:14 GMT
Talking goalkeepers, if you get chance, have a look at the state of the Mansfield goalkeeper in their game v grimsby. They'd definitely take Davies on loan Is it still Conrad Logan?If so he’s been past it for years
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 4, 2020 20:48:39 GMT
Talking goalkeepers, if you get chance, have a look at the state of the Mansfield goalkeeper in their game v grimsby. They'd definitely take Davies on loan Is it still Conrad Logan?If so he’s been past it for years It is indeed. I've had a look to see if I can still find my boots and gloves!
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Post by dioufsboots on Jan 4, 2020 21:07:29 GMT
Am hoping just a bit of rust and he comes good else were going need a new keeper next season as well as all the outfield were going need He isn't coming good. Forget that one. I wouldnt write a player of after just one or 2 games tbh,got have a bit of summat about him to get in a league best 11 team
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 4, 2020 21:44:34 GMT
He isn't coming good. Forget that one. I wouldnt write a player of after just one or 2 games tbh,got have a bit of summat about him to get in a league best 11 team Fair enough. I'd put him marginally ahead of haugaard in the ability stakes.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 4, 2020 21:56:14 GMT
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 4, 2020 22:05:36 GMT
That Vale keeper looked pretty decent!!
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Post by pushon on Jan 4, 2020 22:11:14 GMT
WTF! Only on the Oatcake can we find people slagging off our players and IMO for no reason, he was beaten by a fluke goal! Butland Federici or Alisson wouldn't have got it. Gouranga. Butland would have caught it! Sorry mate but Butland would struggle to "catch" the proverbial cold.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 22:14:19 GMT
WTF! Only on the Oatcake can we find people slagging off our players and IMO for no reason, he was beaten by a fluke goal! Butland Federici or Alisson wouldn't have got it. Gouranga. Well they would have just caught it
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Post by s7oke on Jan 4, 2020 22:19:22 GMT
Let’s be positive
They scored from a cross which Butland may have palmed into Collins for an own goal if he did even attempt to catch/save it.
His clearances didn’t go out for throw ins
His kicks pretty much got more than 3 feet off the ground.
When the fluke cross did go in he didn’t stand there looking at his defenders to blame.
It was his first game in a while.
So yea give him a fucking chance before you hang him out to dry !
Surprised some of you aren’t blaming Campbell for running back and giving away the free kick in the first place.
If it was Ince he wouldn’t have even made a challenge.
Go figure eh !!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 4, 2020 22:43:24 GMT
Let’s be positive They scored from a cross which Butland may have palmed into Collins for an own goal if he did even attempt to catch/save it. His clearances didn’t go out for throw ins His kicks pretty much got more than 3 feet off the ground. When the fluke cross did go in he didn’t stand there looking at his defenders to blame. It was his first game in a while. So yea give him a fucking chance before you hang him out to dry ! Surprised some of you aren’t blaming Campbell for running back and giving away the free kick in the first place. If it was Ince he wouldn’t have even made a challenge. Go figure eh !! I think O’Neil agreed with your pint on Campbell it’s why he says ultimately he’s a centre forward
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Post by adi on Jan 4, 2020 23:54:28 GMT
Having watched that maybe folk will start getting off Jack’s back now. Why, because another goalkeeper has made 1 mistake ? Butland has made almost a dozen !!! Just put up with shit keeping because our 3rd choice let one in? I’m not sure that vindicates Butland either
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jan 5, 2020 4:48:58 GMT
I still don't get what Federici did wrong? He should be our first choice. Shall we keep rotating the keepers and singing the praises of the one not chosen? Again, what did Federici do wrong? I was impressed with him when he played. His distribution and communication were good and I don't remember him making any major mistakes or being responsible for any goals. Not in a major way anyway, certainly nothing stand out like the mistake Davies made today or the countless big mistakes Butland has made. So no, I'm not just calling for constant replacements based on nothing. It's based on what I've actually seen Federici produce this season where I thought he looked solid and composed. And in the end of the day, solid and composed is a big improvement on what we've had in goal for most of this season.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 5, 2020 7:47:36 GMT
I still don't get what Federici did wrong? He should be our first choice. Shall we keep rotating the keepers and singing the praises of the one not chosen? It’s not like that though.....Feds stepped up to the plate when Butts was dropped and played very well instilling much needed confidence in the back 4. Very poor man management by Delap to reinstate Butland when Feds was playing so confidently. Feds should be first choice no doubt at all.
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Post by Gods on Jan 5, 2020 8:55:01 GMT
Steve Davies would have done a better job with the cross. Right on cue. This should have been his big break. Still I reckon his name is still in the frame.
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