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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 3, 2020 14:02:40 GMT
Unsurprisingly we're more than willing to let him go.
Equally unsurprisingly, no sign of Villa being interested in having him back yet.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 3, 2020 14:05:01 GMT
Really knocked it out of the park with these loan signings, didn't we?
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Post by mattador78 on Jan 3, 2020 14:21:02 GMT
No surprising MON says the squads to big and wants use his contracted players so the old managers loans are among the first to go.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 14:22:09 GMT
Our recruitment this season has been even more disastrous than the last one, the only saving grace being we didn’t spunk £60m on some of these dead beats.....
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 3, 2020 14:24:32 GMT
Can't stand Hogan. One of the worst players I've had the misfortune of watching.
Hopefully we can find a way of getting rid of him.
Useless.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jan 3, 2020 14:28:08 GMT
Can't stand Hogan. One of the worst players I've had the misfortune of watching. Hopefully we can find a way of getting rid of him. Useless.
He literally offers nothing.
The mass panic sweeping through the club was obvious when this bloke and Duffy arrived so late in the day for no obvious reason. And needless to say, we're stuck paying the wages for 2 blokes we don't want.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 14:30:11 GMT
I could see what Jones was trying to do with Hogan, if you look back at what he did with Luton. It's quite obvious.
The questionable loan for me was Duffy. Approaching his mid thirties and had just had a falling out with Sheffield United. He was obviously coming here as an old man with the hump - in a position we'd just paid out big wages for in Powell.
I'd love to say the club have finally woken up and decided to have a serious look at creating a bit of balance with the process but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by bloodtypered on Jan 3, 2020 14:31:49 GMT
Can't stand Hogan. One of the worst players I've had the misfortune of watching. Hopefully we can find a way of getting rid of him. Useless. Hardly had any game time...scored 2 goals?
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jan 3, 2020 14:36:51 GMT
I could see what Jones was trying to do with Hogan, if you look back at what he did with Luton. It's quite obvious. The questionable loan for me was Duffy. Approaching his mid thirties and had just had a falling out with Sheffield United. He was obviously coming here as an old man with the hump - in a position we'd just paid out big wages for in Powell. I'd love to say the club have finally woken up and decided to have a serious look at creating a bit of balance with the process but I'm not holding my breath. What was obvious? He's had 1 good run in his entire career. He's garbage.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 3, 2020 14:39:16 GMT
Hopefully, if Villa do want Butland (and if we are prepared to sell him) then taking Hogan back from his loan will be a condition of the deal.
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Post by chigstoke on Jan 3, 2020 14:42:36 GMT
We'd have done better signing 66 year old Hulk Hogan.
And he can barely walk nowadays.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2020 14:47:05 GMT
I could see what Jones was trying to do with Hogan, if you look back at what he did with Luton. It's quite obvious. The questionable loan for me was Duffy. Approaching his mid thirties and had just had a falling out with Sheffield United. He was obviously coming here as an old man with the hump - in a position we'd just paid out big wages for in Powell. I'd love to say the club have finally woken up and decided to have a serious look at creating a bit of balance with the process but I'm not holding my breath. What was obvious? He's had 1 good run in his entire career. He's garbage. Another example of the lessons learned by our board of clowns.
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Post by cousindupree on Jan 3, 2020 15:00:37 GMT
The loan strategy from Jones was a complete disaster and totally wrong. what works best in the Champs is finding young ambition premier league fringe players eager to make a mark. Jones strategy was to loan players that had already achieved promotion from the Champ. He stated often that this player or that player knew how to win promotion. What he didn't grasp was that such players after a hard slog in the Championship were looking forward to a season in the prem. Can't be very motivating to be dumped back into the drudgery that is the Championship. No wonder Hogan and Duffy seemingly just sat back and couldn't be arsed, they were never going to bust a gut for the team. So I hope the lessons have been learnt with the next foray into the loan market.....but not holding my breath
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 15:09:00 GMT
I could see what Jones was trying to do with Hogan, if you look back at what he did with Luton. It's quite obvious. The questionable loan for me was Duffy. Approaching his mid thirties and had just had a falling out with Sheffield United. He was obviously coming here as an old man with the hump - in a position we'd just paid out big wages for in Powell. I'd love to say the club have finally woken up and decided to have a serious look at creating a bit of balance with the process but I'm not holding my breath. What was obvious? He's had 1 good run in his entire career. He's garbage. The type of player he is and the system Jones wanted to play, coupled with what he did at Luton with the likes of Hylton and Lee. Don't worry about it.
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Post by gogogadget on Jan 3, 2020 15:14:17 GMT
Hopefully, if Villa do want Butland (and if we are prepared to sell him) then taking Hogan back from his loan will be a condition of the deal. Seriously bud. You me and almost everyone else would look at it like that. TS however.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 16:12:19 GMT
I could see what Jones was trying to do with Hogan, if you look back at what he did with Luton. It's quite obvious. The questionable loan for me was Duffy. Approaching his mid thirties and had just had a falling out with Sheffield United. He was obviously coming here as an old man with the hump - in a position we'd just paid out big wages for in Powell. I'd love to say the club have finally woken up and decided to have a serious look at creating a bit of balance with the process but I'm not holding my breath. What was obvious? He's had 1 good run in his entire career. He's garbage. That's the kind of player we've been going for,1 hit wonders
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Post by tpholloway1 on Jan 3, 2020 16:14:20 GMT
Our recruitment this season has been even more disastrous than the last one, the only saving grace being we didn’t spunk £60m on some of these dead beats..... The question has to be "why are those in the recruitment department still in a job"?
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Post by nott1 on Jan 3, 2020 16:23:29 GMT
Jones hadn't a clue and never did have one, what ever he did with Luton was a complete fluke!
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Post by waffles on Jan 3, 2020 16:51:05 GMT
Jones hadn't a clue and never did have one, what ever he did with Luton was a complete fluke! Decent fluke though bud
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Post by Goonie on Jan 3, 2020 17:00:38 GMT
We'd have done better signing 66 year old Hulk Hogan. And he can barely walk nowadays. I cant hear you.... 😁
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Post by pabloavfc on Jan 3, 2020 17:10:02 GMT
Came on here when you signed him to tell you what a terrible player he was. I'm not surprised.
We have 1 fit striker at the club, are desperate for a forward and there is no way i'd want to see him in a villa shirt again.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2020 17:40:11 GMT
Our recruitment this season has been even more disastrous than the last one, the only saving grace being we didn’t spunk £60m on some of these dead beats..... The question has to be "why are those in the recruitment department still in a job"? Hoss has gone his mate slimly Scholes is a director, apparently he has no responsibility for transfers
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jan 3, 2020 17:42:56 GMT
We don't need Scott Hogan we didn't at the start of the season and we still don't. Good luck to him and thanks for trying but we have to look forward now. Gouranga.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2020 17:45:12 GMT
We don't need Scott Hogan we didn't at the start of the season and we still don't. Good luck to him and thanks for trying but we have to look forward now. Gouranga. For a man who didn't approve of loans Narcissist Nathan brought three useless ones' here, very strange.
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Post by s7oke on Jan 3, 2020 17:48:20 GMT
We don't need Scott Hogan we didn't at the start of the season and we still don't. Good luck to him and thanks for trying but we have to look forward now. Gouranga. For a man who didn't approve of loans Narcissist Nathan brought three useless ones' here, very strange. Bit like Rowett then I remember his interview saying he didn’t like loan players because why should he improve another teams player 😂😂 Hang on that’s perhaps why we loaned wank ones 🙈
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2020 17:50:54 GMT
For a man who didn't approve of loans Narcissist Nathan brought three useless ones' here, very strange. Bit like Rowett then I remember his interview saying he didn’t like loan players because why should he improve another teams player 😂😂 Hang on that’s perhaps why we loaned wank ones 🙈 Makes you wonder if these were influenced from above, not that Teflon Tony would ever do that
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Post by s7oke on Jan 3, 2020 17:55:55 GMT
Bit like Rowett then I remember his interview saying he didn’t like loan players because why should he improve another teams player 😂😂 Hang on that’s perhaps why we loaned wank ones 🙈 Makes you wonder if these were influenced from above, not that Teflon Tony would ever do that 😱😱😱how very dare you suggest that 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 3, 2020 18:09:54 GMT
Our recruitment this season has been even more disastrous than the last one, the only saving grace being we didn’t spunk £60m on some of these dead beats..... The question has to be "why are those in the recruitment department still in a job"? The main ones aren't, they got the sack, three of them
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2020 18:14:29 GMT
The question has to be "why are those in the recruitment department still in a job"? The main ones aren't, they got the sack, three of them So you don't include Cartwright or Scholes as having any responsibility in our transfer process, it was all down to the managers
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 3, 2020 18:33:39 GMT
The loan strategy from Jones was a complete disaster and totally wrong. what works best in the Champs is finding young ambition premier league fringe players eager to make a mark. Jones strategy was to loan players that had already achieved promotion from the Champ. He stated often that this player or that player knew how to win promotion. What he didn't grasp was that such players after a hard slog in the Championship were looking forward to a season in the prem. Can't be very motivating to be dumped back into the drudgery that is the Championship. No wonder Hogan and Duffy seemingly just sat back and couldn't be arsed, they were never going to bust a gut for the team. So I hope the lessons have been learnt with the next foray into the loan market.....but not holding my breath Shirley, Nath was just bringing a bit of experience to go with his exciting young team we could be proud of.
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