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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 12:52:11 GMT
I was counting down the days until we got rid of him. Many folks were blinded by the fact that he was 'a nice bloke'. He wasn't a nice bloke. He was a fucking tit. I agree. Reminded me of Cotterill. It was all about 'me' - I remember he said "I asked the players to do it for me" - that really grinds my gears. He was a narcissist and not a nice guy. I know he went to visit an old man and said things on the radio that sounded like he really cared about Stoke - but mark my words when I say it was all for himself, he's not a nice guy. Additionally, he's a dreadful manager. The absolute pits.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 12:58:33 GMT
Christ, we get the best result and performance from a Stoke team for well over two years and there's a four page thread about the worst manager we've ever had, with most posts adding nothing that hasn't been said about the man for the last six months. Just be glad he's gone. Correct but I thought you were one of the admin people so why don't you lock the thread. I for one predicted his down fall very early on and am sick of reading about him, Please close the thread down! Oh I dunno. Toxic Tony still gets threads about him (how many years on ?) The snake oil salesman is a recent phenomenon and comparisons between him an MON are perfectly valid IMHO. Especially since MON seems to be doing with the players what the Salesman abjectly failed to do. GD
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 3, 2020 13:32:34 GMT
At the outset I said he was a massive risk and an admission by the club that we were in for a long haul and had abandoned any hope of a quick return to the Premier League. I was prepared to stick by him despite my doubts because I thought the club were right in identifying that an early return was out of the question and like it or not we had to dismantle the Premiership squad, rebuild with technically inferior players and basically start again as a Championship club.
As it turned out Jones was out of his depth and too thin skinned - he simply didn't have the experience to deal with the dire situation we are in. Wrong place, wrong time. He'll probably do well at a club with ambition but without our current baggage (like that other "fraud" Gary Rowett at Millwall). I bear him no malice and wish him well.
MoN has bags more experience, clocked our issues early, formulated a plan of action and has a thick enough skin to ignore all the dickheads calling for his head because the mythical new manager bounce hasn't already catapulted us into promotion contention. Unlike Rowett and Jones he isn't hamstrung to the same extent by over inflated expectations. I'd take mid table as a massive achievement and for the first time I don't feel alone in that assessment as to where we are as a club.
As supporters we have choice - moan our bags off at no longer being a Premiership club and stab the latest poor bastard in the scapegoat role or recognise the difficulty of our situation and get behind the manager, the players and the club and do our bit to bring back the good times. But then as a an unrepentant happy clapper I would say that wouldn't I?
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 3, 2020 14:08:05 GMT
He was neither a nice guy or unlucky. He was so far up his own arse I'm surprised he didn't fart with a Welsh accent.
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Post by loosestools on Jan 3, 2020 14:20:00 GMT
He was neither a nice guy or unlucky. He was so far up his own arse I'm surprised he didn't fart with a Welsh accent. rechu
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Post by rawli on Jan 3, 2020 14:38:32 GMT
This backs up my theory that "God" hates Stoke FC along with most of the rest of the uk. I prefer the theory that religion is an advanced form of mental illness. It explains an awful lot GD The devout people I've met have been among the nastiest. They use god to justify anything they do.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2020 14:56:41 GMT
He was neither a nice guy or unlucky. He was so far up his own arse I'm surprised he didn't fart with a Welsh accent. rechu Bless you.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2020 14:57:43 GMT
I prefer the theory that religion is an advanced form of mental illness. It explains an awful lot GD The devout people I've met have been among the nastiest. They use god to justify anything they do. They use their god to justify anything they do
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 3, 2020 16:29:51 GMT
Has he ............ been gone to long
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 3, 2020 16:56:43 GMT
Nathan Jones seemed a thoroughly nice guy. What proof is there he wasn't?
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Post by starkiller on Jan 3, 2020 17:00:36 GMT
Has he ............ been gone to long He was here too long.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2020 17:01:52 GMT
Has he ............ been gone to long You packed your bags as I recall - thank fcuk And you walked slowly down the hall - hurry up you twat You said you had to get away to ease your mind - And all you needed was a just little of time - how much time did he want you fcuking want.
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 3, 2020 17:20:57 GMT
I still maintain Paul Hart had a massive bearing on the abject failure of Jones.
You only have to look at his time at Luton and how things drastically improved once that fossil had fucked off to Notts County.
I’m not saying Jones didn’t get a lot wrong, he obviously did but there will always be a part of me that wonders how he’d have got on had he brought in his assistant after Hart, whose name currently escapes me.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2020 17:27:16 GMT
I still maintain Paul Hart had a massive bearing on the abject failure of Jones. You only have to look at his time at Luton and how things drastically improved once that fossil had fucked off to Notts County. I’m not saying Jones didn’t get a lot wrong, he obviously did but there will always be a part of me that wonders how he’d have got on had he brought in his assistant after Hart, whose name currently escapes me. I presume he chose Hart as his assistant ie. it was his choice.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 13, 2020 18:42:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 18:48:15 GMT
A few excuses too many if I'm honest but I wish the bloke no harm. It's football, managers come in, it doesn't work out, they get sacked. It happens. Ultimately our recruitment signed his death warrant, how much influence he had in that we'll never truly know but the buck stops with him.......
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 18:54:51 GMT
This backs up my theory that "God" hates Stoke FC along with most of the rest of the uk. I prefer the theory that religion is an advanced form of mental illness. It explains an awful lot GD “Advanced”?????
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jan 13, 2020 19:09:41 GMT
A few excuses too many if I'm honest but I wish the bloke no harm. It's football, managers come in, it doesn't work out, they get sacked. It happens. Ultimately our recruitment signed his death warrant, how much influence he had in that we'll never truly know but the buck stops with him....... Just excuses. No real evaluation or acceptance on his part. A bit of a fantasist
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 19:15:50 GMT
A few excuses too many if I'm honest but I wish the bloke no harm. It's football, managers come in, it doesn't work out, they get sacked. It happens. Ultimately our recruitment signed his death warrant, how much influence he had in that we'll never truly know but the buck stops with him....... Just excuses. No real evaluation or acceptance on his part. A bit of a fantasist I didn’t read it quite like that. What’s done is done............
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Post by DentySCFC on Jan 13, 2020 19:16:31 GMT
Cretin. And an absolutely fucking useless, clueless one at that. Like how he describes O’Neill’s results as “mixed”. Won as many leagues games in 2 months as you did in 10 mate. As for the environment - starting off with 8 points in November, we can’t afford to bring in anyone permanently, having to tear up your loans (which you never played anyway) to save a bit of cash - yeah great environment Nath, you absolute berk.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 13, 2020 19:18:06 GMT
Nice guy or not he has ruined our club even more than the last 2 managers. And got a pay off for being out of his depth
Well done one and all
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Post by telfordstokie on Jan 13, 2020 19:29:20 GMT
He’s correct that MON’s results so far have been “mixed”. But that’s an improvement on Nathan’s own results, which were in my humble analysis, “mind-bogglingly shite”.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 13, 2020 19:32:33 GMT
A few excuses too many if I'm honest but I wish the bloke no harm. It's football, managers come in, it doesn't work out, they get sacked. It happens. Ultimately our recruitment signed his death warrant, how much influence he had in that we'll never truly know but the buck stops with him....... Just excuses. No real evaluation or acceptance on his part. A bit of a fantasist A fraud and a chancer employed by an idiot who's father should have never let him near making important decisions, he couldn't run a bath.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 19:39:50 GMT
If Stoke do well now it's because of the processes and culture he put in place. If we struggle it proves it's not the managers. That's how he sees it. He a deluded fool
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Post by Jimm on Jan 13, 2020 20:05:10 GMT
Who actually gives a fuck! Worst manager in the last two decades, fuck off!
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Post by Goonie on Jan 13, 2020 20:17:49 GMT
Who actually gives a fuck! Worst manager in the last two decades, fuck off! Posters like you really get my pip! Get off the fence and say what you really mean 😁
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Post by Goonie on Jan 13, 2020 20:18:37 GMT
If Stoke do well now it's because of the processes and culture he put in place. If we struggle it proves it's not the managers. That's how he sees it. He a deluded fool I've seen better culture in an Asda yoghurt
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Post by onionman on Jan 14, 2020 1:17:30 GMT
Reads like a parody interview from The Onion or something.
I find it hard to even believe he’s a real person. What a bizarre chapter in the club’s history Nathan Jones turned out to be.
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Post by Widget123 on Jan 14, 2020 1:24:31 GMT
Whilst he wasn't as bad as the results made him out to be (especially as Butland's form/crazy period effectively pissed away 12 points, single handedly) his complete pursuit of the diamond bollocks without the players to suit it was his ultimate downfall. Whilst he had possible excuses in the form of players/genuine bad luck, the repeated flogging of the dead horse of formation/manic tactics undid pretty much every positive he might have achieved behind the scenes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 6:51:17 GMT
Talked a good game (and boyo could he talk !), but ultimately he just couldn't deliver.
His appointment was a huge risk, his lack of experience at this level was painfully plain to see from the start.
His persistence with the diamond without the players to suit it was baffling, frustrating, and downright annoying and incompetent.
His signings were woeful and have greatly further contributed to the mess we're in right now.
His results were absolutely abysmal and he should have been sacked much, much sooner.
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