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Post by partickpotter on Jan 3, 2020 21:52:42 GMT
The thread seems to have run its course now and I'm a bit bored of it, but you're crucially missing the point that he has linked himself to the PIRA by sharing quotes from Bobby Sands in the context of some sort of personal mantra. From RTE a quote from the man himself on Martin McGuiness. “Not only was he a hero of mine, someone I looked up to, a man that has done so much for Irish people and Irish people’s freedom right to the very the end, he was also a good friend and someone I had the pleasure of having a good relationship with.
“He was a man I met so many times, had the privilege to share many a great conversation with, a man that always texted me before games wishing me luck, a man that through the well documented tough times off the field always let me know how brave I was standing by my beliefs, that I never was alone because I had his support and backing always.
I claim no responsibility in this statement it is a quote from the RTE on his relationship and admiration for Martin McGuiness.
It might depend on the McGuiness that he knew. The young violent man or the older version who was a massive influence on the peace process. McGuiness, of course, isn’t the only high profile Northern Irishman who had a Damscene conversion. His fellow chuckle brother had a similar change of heart. Seems to me we would all be a bit better off if we chilled and let folk do what they want (so long as it’s not hurting anyone).
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2020 22:38:21 GMT
From RTE a quote from the man himself on Martin McGuiness. “Not only was he a hero of mine, someone I looked up to, a man that has done so much for Irish people and Irish people’s freedom right to the very the end, he was also a good friend and someone I had the pleasure of having a good relationship with.
“He was a man I met so many times, had the privilege to share many a great conversation with, a man that always texted me before games wishing me luck, a man that through the well documented tough times off the field always let me know how brave I was standing by my beliefs, that I never was alone because I had his support and backing always.
I claim no responsibility in this statement it is a quote from the RTE on his relationship and admiration for Martin McGuiness.
It might depend on the McGuiness that he knew. The young violent man or the older version who was a massive influence on the peace process. McGuiness, of course, isn’t the only high profile Northern Irishman who had a Damscene conversion. His fellow chuckle brother had a similar change of heart. Seems to me we would all be a bit better off if we chilled and let folk do what they want (so long as it’s not hurting anyone). Was McGuiness a terrorist ? was he involved in murder ? did he advocate murder ? was Bobby sands a terrorist ? did he plant bombs to kill and maim unharmed civilians ? There is a saying about birds of a feather, another guilt by association.
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Post by daisydog on Jan 3, 2020 23:53:48 GMT
You don't really understand the conflict in Northern Ireland and I don't really expect you to (you may have heard of something called Bloody Sunday? (probably not)) but as I said before you must hate Boris Johnson for achieving some of the aims of the IRA in the Brexit deal. You must also hate Thatcher, Paisley,Bill Clinton, The Queen and so many other ministers Labour/Conservative who talked and actually got on with Mr McGuinness. You also have not questioned the equivalence between "Fuck the Pope" and "Fuck the Queen" mentioned earlier so I assume you think it's ok to chant "Fuck the Queen". I think it's terrible but you obviously don't care much for royalty.
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Post by musik on Jan 4, 2020 2:20:24 GMT
Did they mention the hair colour?
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Post by thevoid on Jan 4, 2020 9:48:02 GMT
The Pope- King of the Paedos
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 14:57:31 GMT
The thread seems to have run its course now and I'm a bit bored of it, but you're crucially missing the point that he has linked himself to the PIRA by sharing quotes from Bobby Sands in the context of some sort of personal mantra. From RTE a quote from the man himself on Martin McGuiness. “Not only was he a hero of mine, someone I looked up to, a man that has done so much for Irish people and Irish people’s freedom right to the very the end, he was also a good friend and someone I had the pleasure of having a good relationship with.
“He was a man I met so many times, had the privilege to share many a great conversation with, a man that always texted me before games wishing me luck, a man that through the well documented tough times off the field always let me know how brave I was standing by my beliefs, that I never was alone because I had his support and backing always.
I claim no responsibility in this statement it is a quote from the RTE on his relationship and admiration for Martin McGuiness.
British people look up to Churchill, a man who killed 4 million people in India because he thought them 'uncivilised, a beastly people with a beastly religion. It's their own fault for breeding like rabbits'. Should we abuse anyone who quotes Churchill too? A man who clearly did far worse than McGuinness ever did.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 4, 2020 16:26:35 GMT
From RTE a quote from the man himself on Martin McGuiness. “Not only was he a hero of mine, someone I looked up to, a man that has done so much for Irish people and Irish people’s freedom right to the very the end, he was also a good friend and someone I had the pleasure of having a good relationship with.
“He was a man I met so many times, had the privilege to share many a great conversation with, a man that always texted me before games wishing me luck, a man that through the well documented tough times off the field always let me know how brave I was standing by my beliefs, that I never was alone because I had his support and backing always.
I claim no responsibility in this statement it is a quote from the RTE on his relationship and admiration for Martin McGuiness.
British people look up to Churchill, a man who killed 4 million people in India because he thought them 'uncivilised, a beastly people with a beastly religion. It's their own fault for breeding like rabbits'. Should we abuse anyone who quotes Churchill too? A man who clearly did far worse than McGuinness ever did. You think that comparing the actions of the leader of a nation and a terrorist is like for like ? a better comparison would be Churchill and Chairman Mao who killed 45 million in a four year period up to 80million in total, Hitler 11- 18 million, Stalin 20-45 million, Lenin 7-12 million, Chiang Kai-Shek 10 million, Hirihoto 6 million, all unacceptable yet we still have people who look up to Mao a man who clearly did far worse than any other living being. Mao, Pol Pot and Stalin all followed Marx ideology.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 17:02:21 GMT
British people look up to Churchill, a man who killed 4 million people in India because he thought them 'uncivilised, a beastly people with a beastly religion. It's their own fault for breeding like rabbits'. Should we abuse anyone who quotes Churchill too? A man who clearly did far worse than McGuinness ever did. You think that comparing the actions of the leader of a nation and a terrorist is like for like ? a better comparison would be Churchill and Chairman Mao who killed 45 million in a four year period up to 80million in total, Hitler 11- 18 million, Stalin 20-45 million, Lenin 7-12 million, Chiang Kai-Shek 10 million, Hirihoto 6 million, all unacceptable yet we still have people who look up to Mao a man who clearly did far worse than any other living being. Mao, Pol Pot and Stalin all followed Marx ideology. What is your point there? War crimes are fine if you're a leader of a nation, but only if you're not a 'left wing' one, and they're not fine if you're not the leader of a nation? I honestly do not know what you are actually trying to say. I'm quoting the awful things Churchill did and said, and saying obviously people who look up to him shouldn't be abused, the same way McClean shouldn't be for his views on the troubles. Why is that anything to do with Mao, Hitler, or Stalin? You should also read up on what Marxism actually is, because you clearly have no idea of anything Karl Marx said or did.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 4, 2020 17:12:12 GMT
You think that comparing the actions of the leader of a nation and a terrorist is like for like ? a better comparison would be Churchill and Chairman Mao who killed 45 million in a four year period up to 80million in total, Hitler 11- 18 million, Stalin 20-45 million, Lenin 7-12 million, Chiang Kai-Shek 10 million, Hirihoto 6 million, all unacceptable yet we still have people who look up to Mao a man who clearly did far worse than any other living being. Mao, Pol Pot and Stalin all followed Marx ideology. What is your point there? War crimes are fine if you're a leader of a nation, but only if you're not a 'left wing' one, and they're not fine if you're not the leader of a nation? I honestly do not know what you are actually trying to say. I'm quoting the awful things Churchill did and said, and saying obviously people who look up to him shouldn't be abused, the same way McClean shouldn't be for his views on the troubles. Why is that anything to do with Mao, Hitler, or Stalin? You should also read up on what Marxism actually is, because you clearly have no idea of anything Karl Marx said or did. Oh dear you don't half post some rubbish, where's your dad gone
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 17:20:36 GMT
What is your point there? War crimes are fine if you're a leader of a nation, but only if you're not a 'left wing' one, and they're not fine if you're not the leader of a nation? I honestly do not know what you are actually trying to say. I'm quoting the awful things Churchill did and said, and saying obviously people who look up to him shouldn't be abused, the same way McClean shouldn't be for his views on the troubles. Why is that anything to do with Mao, Hitler, or Stalin? You should also read up on what Marxism actually is, because you clearly have no idea of anything Karl Marx said or did. Oh dear you don't half post some rubbish, where's your dad gone Good to hear that you don't have a response!
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 4, 2020 17:23:15 GMT
Oh dear you don't half post some rubbish, where's your dad gone Good to hear that you don't have a response! OK
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Post by Mayunmarlady on Jan 7, 2020 0:37:06 GMT
Sectarian . Not racist
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