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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 14, 2020 19:31:48 GMT
Campbell going is a real kick in the nuts.
Especially if he goes 'abroad' to that foreign country up North and we get £400k for him and a whopping great £1.3m loss (or thereabouts vs what we paid Citeh).
Meaning we can plough exactly nowt into a loan (or purchase) for a replacement.
I also think his dad hates us enough to steer him in exactly that direction.
And all against the backdrop of him actually playing better in a better system and getting on the score sheet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 19:35:24 GMT
Campbell going is a real kick in the nuts.
Especially if he goes 'abroad' to that foreign country up North and we get £400k for him and a whopping great £1.3m loss (or thereabouts vs what we paid Citeh).
Meaning we can plough exactly nowt into a loan (or purchase) for a replacement.
I also think his dad hates us enough to steer him in exactly that direction.
And all against the backdrop of him actually playing better in a better system and getting on the score sheet. How many more times does it have to be said, we haven't paid £1.75 million for him
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 14, 2020 20:34:55 GMT
Campbell going is a real kick in the nuts.
Especially if he goes 'abroad' to that foreign country up North and we get £400k for him and a whopping great £1.3m loss (or thereabouts vs what we paid Citeh).
Meaning we can plough exactly nowt into a loan (or purchase) for a replacement.
I also think his dad hates us enough to steer him in exactly that direction.
And all against the backdrop of him actually playing better in a better system and getting on the score sheet. How many more times does it have to be said, we haven't paid £1.75 million for him Apols - at least once to me then
That's the figure I hear bandied about - and have just not seen anything to the contrary (probably my bad).
I bet we paid a lot more than £400k for him though?
Figures aside, the point still stands.
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Post by thebet365 on Jan 14, 2020 20:38:30 GMT
How many more times does it have to be said, we haven't paid £1.75 million for him Apols - at least once to me then
That's the figure I hear bandied about - and have just not seen anything to the contrary (probably my bad).
I bet we paid a lot more than £400k for him though?
Figures aside, the point still stands.It's roughly 1 mill then the other 750k was clauses like appearances and England call up.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 14, 2020 20:40:35 GMT
How many more times does it have to be said, we haven't paid £1.75 million for him Apols - at least once to me then
That's the figure I hear bandied about - and have just not seen anything to the contrary (probably my bad).
I bet we paid a lot more than £400k for him though?
Figures aside, the point still stands. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-city-transfer-news-campbell-13294881Looks like we've currently paid £1.05m. An initial 750 plus 100k on his 10th, 20th and 30th appearance (he's currently played 31 times for us) With another 100k payable on his 40th and 50th. Plus 500k if he plays for England.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 20:42:20 GMT
Apols - at least once to me then
That's the figure I hear bandied about - and have just not seen anything to the contrary (probably my bad).
I bet we paid a lot more than £400k for him though?
Figures aside, the point still stands. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-city-transfer-news-campbell-13294881Looks like we've currently paid £1.05m. An initial 750 plus 100k on his 10th, 20th and 30th appearance (he's currently played 31 times for us) With another 100k payable on his 40th and 50th. Plus 500k if he plays for England. Has he really played 31 times ? I guess most will be as a sub ? So,every time he appears it costs us £10,000
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 14, 2020 20:45:03 GMT
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 14, 2020 20:52:02 GMT
Well I’m sorry but we’ve been the architects of our own downfall with Campbell and to a lesser degree Verlinden and even N’Goy
I just don’t get after the Leeds performance last season why we entertained loaning him out, it was becoming clear we were heading for mid table obscurity and instead of loaning him to Shrewsbury Jones should have given him an extended run rather than rotating Vokes and Afobe.
It’s not fair to lay all the blame at Jones’s door, someone higher up should have guided him
He will go, there’s no doubt, he will also go on to forge a good career I think and we will be left with overpaid, overweight and over the hill strikers
Unfortunately we are reaping what we have sowed
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Post by wilcopotter on Jan 14, 2020 20:52:32 GMT
If he does go then please not to Scotland seeing as we paid £1m for him when he was a kid. Another Kris Commons I think, not convinced of the so called potential myself. Can only think of one good game at Huddersfield. Thrived at Shrewsbury, his level I think. Still young though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 20:54:01 GMT
If an offer comes in from either Rangers or Celtic he would be stupid not to take it. I genuinely think he will go, which is a huge shame as we’ve started to see these last few games that he has a real raw talent
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Post by fazza90 on Jan 14, 2020 20:56:50 GMT
How does the compensation work for us if he runs his contract down and signs elsewhere? I've seen 400k written somewhere but who decides that, that's far below his fair market value surely?!
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 14, 2020 21:07:23 GMT
Nobody knows what we paid for him do they ?, loads just guessing what they think we paid, I personally dont know what the fuss is, he aint that good, another Rooney, will go upto Scotland do ok then drop down the leagues.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 21:14:13 GMT
If he does go then please not to Scotland seeing as we paid £1m for him when he was a kid. Another Kris Commons I think, not convinced of the so called potential myself. Can only think of one good game at Huddersfield. Thrived at Shrewsbury, his level I think. Still young though. Commons was a very good player,pretty much Celtics star man for a few years
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 21:22:42 GMT
Another Kris Commons I think, not convinced of the so called potential myself. Can only think of one good game at Huddersfield. Thrived at Shrewsbury, his level I think. Still young though. Commons was a very good player,pretty much Celtics star man for a few years Did great for Derby too.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 14, 2020 23:11:13 GMT
If he does go then please not to Scotland seeing as we paid £1m for him when he was a kid. Another Kris Commons I think, not convinced of the so called potential myself. Can only think of one good game at Huddersfield. Thrived at Shrewsbury, his level I think. Still young though. I think Commons would've been a good player had we kept hold of him. He spent most of his career in the Championship or Scottish Premiership and had a decent goalscoring record. At least at this level, I'd want to keep Campbell on the books, and that means playing him.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jan 14, 2020 23:14:06 GMT
I think there are strong comparisons between Commons and Campbell. Both talented players wanting to better themselves and finding Stoke to be too small in their eyes to match their ambitions
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 14, 2020 23:49:42 GMT
Celtic have signed some Polish U21 striker haven't they?
Maybe that will spend their pennies for them.
And while TC would be a steal anyway and wouldn't break their budget, it might make him / dad think about the pecking order and game time?
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Post by maine on Jan 14, 2020 23:53:22 GMT
Different positions but Commons was a better footballer than Campbell in my opinion.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 15, 2020 0:08:54 GMT
Wonder why they are not interested in Vokes or Gregory or any of the forwards we've insisted on putting in the pecking order above Campbell?
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Post by Veritas on Jan 15, 2020 9:05:13 GMT
Wonder why they are not interested in Vokes or Gregory or any of the forwards we've insisted on putting in the pecking order above Campbell? Because they would have to pay proper money for them.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 15, 2020 9:14:20 GMT
The only games he'd start at rangers and celtic are a few spl matches at hamilton and st johnstone etc. I've been to those places and he'd soon realise he may as well be playing in non-league.
If he's serious about playing at the highest level he needs to stay in England, and if going abroad, go to Germany.
If he is unmotivated and doesn't care he can do joe Aribo and commit himself to being a championship or league 1 player.
When we think of players who did well up here, like Van Dijk, Wanyama, Dembele, they came here as top players, got media attention having played every game, got big moves soon after. They don't do too well developing players, and Tyrese still has a lot to learn.
He should sign a contract at stoke, get his game time, and have a reasonable buy out clause in there so a top flight club can take him when he's played more. That way we've at least got him this season to help us survive, and he is not priced out of a move in future, and the club at least gets something back
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Post by serpico on Jan 15, 2020 9:34:52 GMT
Yeh, I’d like to see him stay on, i think there's definite potential, be a shame if we let him go and he hits it off elsewhere.
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Post by bangorstokie on Jan 15, 2020 10:11:19 GMT
Is there anyone else who's getting a bit sick and tired of this Campbell saga? It seems to me he doesn't want to be here, mainly I think because of his dad. If that's the case then on your way. The reason where we are at the moment is the majority of players we have in the squad don't give a rat's arse about SCFC. Gone are the days when players would run through brick walls for the cause. If you were to ask the likes of Smithy, Pej, Greenhof, Conroy what they honestly thought of today's squad, I have no doubt what so ever, their answer would be " No Comment" and until we have players who have that commitment to SCFC it's going to be a long time before we return from the wilderness.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 15, 2020 17:02:55 GMT
Does seeing Bursik today sign a three and a half year deal to stay at the club convince everybody that in all probability Campbell has had a deal on the table for a while and it is not the club but him choosing not to sign?
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 15, 2020 17:09:09 GMT
Is there anyone else who's getting a bit sick and tired of this Campbell saga? It seems to me he doesn't want to be here, mainly I think because of his dad. If that's the case then on your way. The reason where we are at the moment is the majority of players we have in the squad don't give a rat's arse about SCFC. Gone are the days when players would run through brick walls for the cause. If you were to ask the likes of Smithy, Pej, Greenhof, Conroy what they honestly thought of today's squad, I have no doubt what so ever, their answer would be " No Comment" and until we have players who have that commitment to SCFC it's going to be a long time before we return from the wilderness. Days of Smithy, Bluto, Conroy have long, long gone. Any modern day footballer would do the same as Campbell in his position. It's the way it is. Look at his options because they might change. Long way to go in this Window.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 15, 2020 18:12:14 GMT
Let's hope he'll help keeping us up and that he chooses and English team which will mean more money for us. I really have no hope left that he will stay beyond this summer.
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Post by drfishy on Jan 15, 2020 18:33:44 GMT
Campbell is in a great position; if he plays and is great then more contracts will be placed on the table and he'll be able to pick who he wants, if he isn't that great then he has Stoke offer to fall back on. So in an odd way I hope he moves on in the summer and we have secured championship football for next year thanks to him. Though I hope he he scores loads and stays
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Post by TinkerT on Jan 15, 2020 18:51:15 GMT
Campbell is in a great position; if he plays and is great then more contracts will be placed on the table and he'll be able to pick who he wants, if he isn't that great then he has Stoke offer to fall back on. So in an odd way I hope he moves on in the summer and we have secured championship football for next year thanks to him. Though I hope he he scores loads and stays He won't get many offers as he's not that good and got wrong attitude, plus his dad. He's like a shit daniel sturridge look where he is now, rotting away in turkey
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 18:55:24 GMT
Does seeing Bursik today sign a three and a half year deal to stay at the club convince everybody that in all probability Campbell has had a deal on the table for a while and it is not the club but him choosing not to sign? That's well established, in all fairness it's logical for him to keep this going to the wire in the window when there's interest elsewhere, improve the terms of the deal and make sure he gets played more. I actually do believe he's making decisions based on playtime to be fair.
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Post by shooters on Jan 15, 2020 19:28:30 GMT
Campbell is in a great position; if he plays and is great then more contracts will be placed on the table and he'll be able to pick who he wants, if he isn't that great then he has Stoke offer to fall back on. So in an odd way I hope he moves on in the summer and we have secured championship football for next year thanks to him. Though I hope he he scores loads and stays Unless he gets injured and only gets a poorer short one from stoke or no contract from anyone. Only certainty - Sign a good new contract with us, him and stoke get better and he still gets bought by a better/bigger club on merit.
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