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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 5, 2020 18:02:44 GMT
As a short term solution I think he’d be an excellent signing. Not the future but we’re in a relegation fight and he’s just what we need.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 5, 2020 18:14:05 GMT
Can we not just let the manager decide? If you were admin, there'd be no threads on the forum.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 5, 2020 18:27:13 GMT
Can we not just let the manager decide? If you were admin, there'd be no threads on the forum. He's not admin - he's expressing a perfectly valid opinion - managers know what they are talking about and we don't. If you were admin the opinion of unqualified idiots would be taken seriously.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 5, 2020 18:31:09 GMT
If you were admin, there'd be no threads on the forum. He's not admin - he's expressing a perfectly valid opinion - managers know what they are talking about and we don't. If you were admin the opinion of unqualified idiots would be taken seriously. Managers know what they are talking about we have ended up with the pile of dross we have because apparently our last three managers signed all the dross, unless of course others were involved.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jan 5, 2020 18:33:20 GMT
Have we learnt anything at all? Signing old players with no potential resale value on fairly big contracts is not a good business plan and doesn’t work. It beggars belief
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 5, 2020 18:36:19 GMT
Have we learnt anything at all? Signing old players with no potential resale value on fairly big contracts is not a good business plan and doesn’t work. It beggars belief I don’t think anyone is suggesting we give him £30k a week on a 3.5yr contract. A deal to the end of the season, where he could help us to stay up, would be ideal. The manager knows him and he seems resigned to have played his last Baggies game.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 5, 2020 18:37:50 GMT
If you were admin, there'd be no threads on the forum. He's not admin - he's expressing a perfectly valid opinion - managers know what they are talking about and we don't. If you were admin the opinion of unqualified idiots would be taken seriously. You should be happy then.
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Post by apb1979 on Jan 5, 2020 18:38:06 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 5, 2020 18:45:57 GMT
Have we learnt anything at all? Signing old players with no potential resale value on fairly big contracts is not a good business plan and doesn’t work. It beggars belief I don’t think anyone is suggesting we give him £30k a week on a 3.5yr contract. A deal to the end of the season, where he could help us to stay up, would be ideal. The manager knows him and he seems resigned to have played his last Baggies game. Have his legs gone ? we already have one 35 year old plodder at LB we don't need another surely, we need pace desperately all over the pitch if our manager can not recognise this I despair.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 18:49:10 GMT
Chris Young.
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 5, 2020 18:49:42 GMT
I don’t think anyone is suggesting we give him £30k a week on a 3.5yr contract. A deal to the end of the season, where he could help us to stay up, would be ideal. The manager knows him and he seems resigned to have played his last Baggies game. Have his legs gone ? we already have one 35 year old plodder at LB we don't need another surely, we need pace desperately all over the pitch if our manager can not recognise this I despair. I have no idea! It depends what’s available doesn’t it. We’re left in a big shitty hole and our finances and squad size will limit what is already a crap (January) market.
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Post by cousindupree on Jan 5, 2020 18:52:40 GMT
Seriously no more aging ex prem players we have been there before. We are not short of experience in the squad get some young hungry and ambitious players in with something to prove.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 5, 2020 19:01:52 GMT
Another Oap no thanks will they ever learn.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 19:24:12 GMT
Surely a no go. The last thing we need is another plodding 60 year old from park house care home
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Post by Sfance on Jan 5, 2020 20:02:55 GMT
He's not admin - he's expressing a perfectly valid opinion - managers know what they are talking about and we don't. If you were admin the opinion of unqualified idiots would be taken seriously. Managers know what they are talking about we have ended up with the pile of dross we have because apparently our last three managers signed all the dross, unless of course others were involved. Craps - Granted, the recent managerial record for signings has been beyond horrendous. But MON doesn't deserve to be tarred with the same brush . . . until he does. In my book, he hasn't done too badly as of yet. So I think he should be given the benefit of the doubt for now.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 5, 2020 20:09:24 GMT
Managers know what they are talking about we have ended up with the pile of dross we have because apparently our last three managers signed all the dross, unless of course others were involved. Craps - Granted, the recent managerial record for signings has been beyond horrendous. But MON doesn't deserve to be tarred with the same brush . . . until he does. In my book, he hasn't done too badly as of yet. So I think he should be given the benefit of the doubt for now. Do we really need another old LB, we are seriously lacking in pace and drive, I like MON seems like a better option than the last two however if his first signing is an OAP who is not wanted as a player by WBA I will have serious doubts, if he was back up and we binned the other Oap Ward then fine as first choice no chance. What is it with our managers and slow footballers will they ever learn, we can all see how slow we are why can't they.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 5, 2020 20:15:13 GMT
If he was that good surely WBA would want to keep him despite his age. Wife’s of Darren Fletcher all over again to me, surely there’s plenty of midfielders we can chose rather than an over the hill West Brom reject
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Post by somersetstokie on Jan 5, 2020 20:25:14 GMT
Have we turned into Stoke thirty something City? The "fading maestro" strategy worked for Waddo!
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 5, 2020 20:36:49 GMT
If he was that good surely WBA would want to keep him despite his age. Wife’s of Darren Fletcher all over again to me, surely there’s plenty of midfielders we can chose rather than an over the hill West Brom reject We should avoid dealing with WBA ever again Berahino, Fletcher and McClean
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Post by lordb on Jan 5, 2020 21:33:28 GMT
If he was that good surely WBA would want to keep him despite his age. Wife’s of Darren Fletcher all over again to me, surely there’s plenty of midfielders we can chose rather than an over the hill West Brom reject We should avoid dealing with WBA ever again Berahino, Fletcher and McClean It's all payback for Dyson
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 5, 2020 21:51:30 GMT
We should avoid dealing with WBA ever again Berahino, Fletcher and McClean It's all payback for Dyson Some fucking payback for a knackered hoover.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 6, 2020 8:32:31 GMT
He's not admin - he's expressing a perfectly valid opinion - managers know what they are talking about and we don't. If you were admin the opinion of unqualified idiots would be taken seriously. Managers know what they are talking about we have ended up with the pile of dross we have because apparently our last three managers signed all the dross, unless of course others were involved. It's perfectly possible to know what you are talking about and failing to be successful in a particular situation. All our managers have had periods of success as professional football managers - they know what they are talking about because they've done the job. On the other hand you - and every other poster on here - have absolutely no experience of actually managing a professional football club. For you and others to accuse any of our managers of "not knowing what they are talking about" is arrogant and ridiculous. You can express an opinion but that's all it is - and is it is an opinion based on ignorance of how to actually do the job and is completely worthless. To swagger around chucking out insults as if they have any value is simply
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Post by markby on Jan 6, 2020 9:16:18 GMT
Craps - Granted, the recent managerial record for signings has been beyond horrendous. But MON doesn't deserve to be tarred with the same brush . . . until he does. In my book, he hasn't done too badly as of yet. So I think he should be given the benefit of the doubt for now. Do we really need another old LB, we are seriously lacking in pace and drive, I like MON seems like a better option than the last two however if his first signing is an OAP who is not wanted as a player by WBA I will have serious doubts, if he was back up and we binned the other Oap Ward then fine as first choice no chance. What is it with our managers and slow footballers will they ever learn, we can all see how slow we are why can't they. Although Brunt started out on the Left Wing, that was as much to do with his excellent left foot and passing/crossing ability as his pace, which he has never really had (think Beckham, for instance). Which is why he moved progressively to midfield (even centre mid), and then to LB, where he uses his skill, experience and anticipation to compensate.
Re Michael signing him, my views are as follows. MON will already have formed an opinion on Ward, which we must assume is that he's not good enough. But just because one veteran LB is past it doesn't mean all such players must be. And MON knows all about Brunt and what he can/can't do. Moreover, if he should sign him, it will surely only be until May i.e. 20 games - a low-risk, low-cost calculated gamble.
Thereafter, it likely depends on whether Stoke survive the drop. If you don't, Brunt could probably do a job in Lge One for a season or two should he wish. And if you do, he might be useful enough next season to help bed in a young LB into the Championship. Either way, we shouldn't pay too much attention to the fact that WBA may be prepared to let him go, for if they do go up this season (as seems v.likely), then there's no way Brunt will be up to the PL again. And such has been his service to the Baggies that they may help him get his next move i.e make it easy for another club to sign him.
The other thing about Brunt is that he is outstanding at taking set-pieces and that's a skill you never lose.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jan 6, 2020 9:23:29 GMT
Do we really need another old LB, we are seriously lacking in pace and drive, I like MON seems like a better option than the last two however if his first signing is an OAP who is not wanted as a player by WBA I will have serious doubts, if he was back up and we binned the other Oap Ward then fine as first choice no chance. What is it with our managers and slow footballers will they ever learn, we can all see how slow we are why can't they. Although Brunt started out on the Left Wing, that was as much to do with his excellent left foot and passing/crossing ability as his pace, which he has never really had (think Beckham, for instance). Which is why he moved progressively to midfield (even centre mid), and then to LB, where he uses his skill, experience and anticipation to compensate.
Re Michael signing him, my views are as follows. MON will already have formed an opinion on Ward, which we must assume is that he's not good enough. But just because one veteran LB is past it doesn't mean all such players must be. And MON knows all about Brunt and what he can/can't do. Moreover, if he should sign him, it will surely only be until May i.e. 20 games - a low-risk, low-cost calculated gamble.
Thereafter, it likely depends on whether Stoke survive the drop. If you don't, Brunt could probably do a job in Lge One for a season or two should he wish. And if you do, he might be useful enough next season to help bed in a young LB into the Championship. Either way, we shouldn't pay too much attention to the fact that WBA may be prepared to let him go, for if they do go up this season (as seems v.likely), then there's no way Brunt will be up to the PL again. And such has been his service to the Baggies that they may help him get his next move i.e make it easy for another club to sign him.
The other thing about Brunt is that he is outstanding at taking set-pieces and that's a skill you never lose. Solid post.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jan 6, 2020 11:57:59 GMT
He's be a better option than Ward for the rest of the season but that's about it. We then have the Summer to buy a new left back and take a look at Tymon.
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 6, 2020 13:57:25 GMT
I actually think he would be a really excellent acquisition in the short term. His delivery from dead balls alone may be the difference between staying up or being relegated in tight games. If he proves to be a success then look in the summer to maybe give him a slightly longer contract?. I think our free kicks/corners are still poor generally.
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Post by stokie223 on Jan 6, 2020 14:40:05 GMT
Insane that we came down at the same time as WBA, much better equipped to return to the premier league (richer club, better squad, kept hold of key players etc.) and now we're rummaging through their scrap bin sat near the foot of the table whilst they're pushing for automatic promotion.
He's an average player that I don't think would improve us a tremendous amount. Personally I'd steer clear.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jan 6, 2020 14:40:50 GMT
I'm not inspired by this, if we are indeed interested.
Would be nice see a free kick on target though! He does have a lethal left peg.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 31, 2020 13:50:05 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 31, 2020 13:51:56 GMT
Guess he fits the bill of a young PL midfielder for our lot.
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