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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Dec 28, 2019 19:07:56 GMT
Tends to go one goalscoring runs rather than consistent performer, although some will say he has been very consistent this year. With few alternatives (diouf against Blackburn I think was awful) we stick with him until a suitable replacement comes in. Preferably right footed and preferably quick.
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Post by subman on Dec 28, 2019 19:33:21 GMT
He has no pace and no bottle, at the age of 26, we were the ninth club he had signed for. I know it appears that he's already a journey man, but some of these were short term loans when he was young and trying to find his feet, which clearly he did at Derby where he scored 35 goals in 105 appearances in this division.If he can recapture that kind of form, he could still be very valuable and useful here. Derby were 2nd in the league when he joined them on loan. Finished in the play-offs. The following season ended up on the bench. Under McClaren he did well but that’s due to Steeevvee’s all out attack philosophy. The guys never been promoted, I wonder why???
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Post by slother on Dec 28, 2019 19:41:44 GMT
Against. Like a tired wank.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 28, 2019 20:04:18 GMT
As long as the manager rates him, we should keep him. When MON says we should sell, we should sell. Just my opinion, but as an over-the -hill geezer who has never managed a sootball team, I trust the judgement of an international manager who took his country from 122nd rank to 22nd rank way more than my limited knowledge. We might as well shut the message board down then hadn't we? Along with every football phone-in across the country and whilst we're at it, close down every newspaper football column where the journo doesn't hold his coaching badges ... Seriously, what is the point of you even being here if you're just going to say I trust the manager come what may? If you're going to back the manager on a particular issue, then hey, that's just as a legitimate position to take as somebody who doesn't but ONLY if you can explain WHY you back him, WHY you agree with his decision, articulating what it is that YOU see merit in. Saying you'll back him religiously over ANY particular issue, simply because he IS the manager, offers absolutely nothing to the discussion.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 28, 2019 20:13:31 GMT
Move him on as soon as possible. We need to start rebuilding the foundations with players who as a bare minimum have a drive, commitment and a will to win. He has none of those attributes and offers nothing. Fucking give him away if we have to - just get his wages off the payroll and move on. Let's start shifting out some of the wasters immediately. We can bring Verlinden back from Bolton at the earliest opportunity and get him in the side. Verlinden has struggled to get a game at a club cut adrift at the bottom of League 1 so I'm not sure why there is such a clamour for him to be recalled and included before Ince (and I say that as someone who likes Verlinden as a player).
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 28, 2019 21:14:17 GMT
Move him on as soon as possible. We need to start rebuilding the foundations with players who as a bare minimum have a drive, commitment and a will to win. He has none of those attributes and offers nothing. Fucking give him away if we have to - just get his wages off the payroll and move on. Let's start shifting out some of the wasters immediately. We can bring Verlinden back from Bolton at the earliest opportunity and get him in the side. Verlinden has struggled to get a game at a club cut adrift at the bottom of League 1 so I'm not sure why there is such a clamour for him to be recalled and included before Ince (and I say that as someone who likes Verlinden as a player). Because Ince is fucking dogshit.
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Post by kustokie on Dec 29, 2019 1:23:54 GMT
He did make two right footed crosses against Wed, which is two more than he’s made all season, but they were very weak. Might as well start with 10 as have him in the line up. I am convinced MON picks him because there’s nobody else.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 4:32:44 GMT
I struggle to see how he's managed to get this reputation as a goalscoring, attacking threat.
He's the player that for me, hides the most when the chips are down. And they have been down, pretty often for us lately.
His goalscoring record as a supposed 'attacking' player for us is pretty pathetic. Even in a side like ours I'd have expected a minimum 6-8 goals over the past 40 games, what's he got, 1-2?
There will be a better wide attacker than him in League One right now, somewhere - a better footballer, a bigger threat, with bigger balls than Ince.
He's not really worth anything to anyone in terms of transfer value imo, anyone who has watched him for Stoke (and also factored in his nomadic career to-date) isn't going to pay a fraction of what we did.
Another one to file under 'paid way too much' and one that we need to improve upon.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Dec 29, 2019 8:53:53 GMT
He's the player that illuminates the detail of the "process". It's the same rigorous process as your Auntie uses for the grand national ie "oh, I like that name"
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 29, 2019 10:27:27 GMT
Far from his biggest fan but I’ve seen glimpses in recent weeks that make me optimistic he might have turned a corner.
MON seems to rate him so I guess we’ll just have to wait and see if he can offer more consistent and significant contributions.
A goal today would be a good start!
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Dec 29, 2019 10:29:55 GMT
Im not a fan of Ince he is too inconsistent for me.
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Post by GoBoks on Dec 30, 2019 0:45:16 GMT
As long as the manager rates him, we should keep him. When MON says we should sell, we should sell. Just my opinion, but as an over-the -hill geezer who has never managed a sootball team, I trust the judgement of an international manager who took his country from 122nd rank to 22nd rank way more than my limited knowledge. We might as well shut the message board down then hadn't we? Along with every football phone-in across the country and whilst we're at it, close down every newspaper football column where the journo doesn't hold his coaching badges ... Seriously, what is the point of you even being here if you're just going to say I trust the manager come what may? If you're going to back the manager on a particular issue, then hey, that's just as a legitimate position to take as somebody who doesn't but ONLY if you can explain WHY you back him, WHY you agree with his decision, articulating what it is that YOU see merit in. Saying you'll back him religiously over ANY particular issue, simply because he IS the manager, offers absolutely nothing to the discussion. Why shut the message board? Because you don't like my opinion? I think that when it comes to selecting the team, MON has far more expertise and knowledge than any one of us. Doesn't mean I don't have ideas on who I would choose, just that I bow to superior knowledge and refuse to call for the manager's head if he happens not to agree with me.
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Post by Rose City Potter on Dec 30, 2019 1:37:26 GMT
I am not against him as such but don't think he is what we need right now. I think that he is one of the players who we should move on. Free up his wages and bring in a young fast player whose sole function in life is to get past his man and cross the ball.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Dec 30, 2019 5:10:41 GMT
The talent is there but the switch to turn the talent on sadly isn't
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Post by s7oke on Dec 30, 2019 7:02:45 GMT
As useless as a foreskin at a circumcision
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Post by boothenender on Dec 30, 2019 7:21:42 GMT
Get rid of him. Very hit and miss for me, offers nothing to the squad. He starts to shine for a short period and then vanishes in to the fog. Ask his Dad to start touting him about again.
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Post by rdf10 on Dec 30, 2019 8:21:34 GMT
Flog him ASAP.
Sick of watching him fanny about for 90 minutes. Complete opposite of what we need right now.
1 goal and 1 assist this season.
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Post by henry on Dec 30, 2019 9:22:49 GMT
His positioning to remove himself from the game when the opposing side have the ball is a thing of wonder. If we don't have a reserve or academy player who's better than Tom fucking Ince then the whole setup needs shutting down. Disgraceful player with no bottle or work rate. Get rid ASAP
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Post by wearepremierleague on Dec 30, 2019 11:50:04 GMT
Interested in who people actually think we should be playing in that position?
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Post by iglugluk on Dec 30, 2019 12:14:41 GMT
As far as I'm concerned he flatters to deceive and that's when hes at his best, other than that he's mainly anonymous. If we haven't managed to decrease his value to virtually nothing then I think we should sell him and bring in someone who creates regular attacking threat. A bit of speed wouldn't go amiss either.
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Post by Timmy on Dec 30, 2019 12:33:58 GMT
He's really lost his way this season, he definitely looks like he doesn't enjoy playing football as a career.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 30, 2019 14:36:47 GMT
Very much against. Went right off him last season when he was more often than not totally disinterested.
He has ball control skills but too left footed. Holds the ball to little effect, rarely scores, assists, or puts in a quality cross. The stats don't lie. When he gets the ball he usually fannies around allowing the opposition defence to organise themselves.
He gets passed from club to club (10 now ?) by manager after manager.
Like a lot of our players, runs around but little end product.
I have a prejudiced dislike of players who wear gloves. (GKs excepted.)
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Post by chell_rosey on Dec 30, 2019 14:38:32 GMT
What does Ince actually do to justify his place? The kindest word I can use to describe him is ineffectual.
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Post by boweryboy on Dec 30, 2019 22:06:56 GMT
In his position,he is there to score goals or create for others,he does neither so how is he keeping his place....somebody has yet to explain to me what is the advantage of playing a left footer on the right wing ????? He never attack’s the space behind the fullback,even in a one on one situation,O’Neill keeps picking him,for what reason I can’t see myself! !!! He does the same thing each time....brings Gregory off and Vokes on,and leaves the useless Ince on Jesus!!! I would try Gregory out on the right,after all he has more pace than Ince and can actually kick with his right foot,and put Vokes or Campbell in the middle...you don’t keep playing the same players every week hoping I it will work,when clearly it isn’t ...you try something else,if you have any brains!!!
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 30, 2019 22:11:41 GMT
Turned his back again on anything that looks remotely like a challenge or contact. Biggest, gutless waste of space I’ve seen in a Stoke shirt for a long, long time....the man is a coward. Are we sure he’s the son of Paul?
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Post by dastokie on Dec 30, 2019 22:29:19 GMT
The talent is there but the switch to turn the talent on sadly isn't What talent? The one when he cuts in onto his left foot. Offers nowt else.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 23:27:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 23:47:09 GMT
Now that really is depressing.
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Post by mestallastokie on Dec 31, 2019 12:05:11 GMT
Ince looks dangerous 50% of the time. Ince looks useless 50% of the time. Ince is dangerous the rest of the time.
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Post by stokie1947 on Dec 31, 2019 12:07:57 GMT
very over rated if we can get a half decent offer i would sell he just isn't consistent enough
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