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Post by numpty40 on Dec 27, 2019 23:06:49 GMT
Smith was with the Sheff player, he's clearly going to be marking him behind or to the side, he's not going to be stood in front of his man at a corner!! Yes to the side. He wasn’t to his side was he! If he is, he stops the goal. Smith was behind the Sheff player and McClean was goalside, the corner was played low towards the front post, that should be the area that McClean attacks, he didn't he is flat footed as you say and the Sheff player gets in front of both to flick the ball back. A well worked corner and as I said originally Smith wasn't completely at fault
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 27, 2019 23:07:51 GMT
Will get stronger and stronger from here can be a solid player for us
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2019 23:30:19 GMT
Sorry mate, that's bollocks. You could argue that McClean was equally at fault because the Sheffield youth ran off him. You could also argue that not having anyone on the posts was the reason for both goals conceded yesterday. What you can't argue is that Smith was "completely at fault" Bayern has shifted his emphasis off Allen and Butland for a day or two and now it’s Tommy Smith’s turn🙄 Should be noted that if Smith was a left back and not occupying the position of the English boy wonder that is Tom Edwards, Bayern wouldn’t be giving him half as much grief. Very little wrong with Smith’s performance vs Wednesday.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 28, 2019 0:16:49 GMT
He's in pole position to keep his place now......if he doesn't (barring injury of course), then he only has himself to blame!!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 28, 2019 13:01:15 GMT
Yes to the side. He wasn’t to his side was he! If he is, he stops the goal. Smith was behind the Sheff player and McClean was goalside, the corner was played low towards the front post, that should be the area that McClean attacks, he didn't he is flat footed as you say and the Sheff player gets in front of both to flick the ball back. A well worked corner and as I said originally Smith wasn't completely at fault Smith was completely at fault. No one should be getting a run at it. Smith allows that to happen. Smith at fault for the first against Boro too. Imagine if Edwards had done that. 😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 28, 2019 13:02:06 GMT
Bayern has shifted his emphasis off Allen and Butland for a day or two and now it’s Tommy Smith’s turn🙄 Should be noted that if Smith was a left back and not occupying the position of the English boy wonder that is Tom Edwards, Bayern wouldn’t be giving him half as much grief. Very little wrong with Smith’s performance vs Wednesday. He’s been at fault for two goals in two games. I don’t accept that from any player.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 13:09:33 GMT
Should be noted that if Smith was a left back and not occupying the position of the English boy wonder that is Tom Edwards, Bayern wouldn’t be giving him half as much grief. Very little wrong with Smith’s performance vs Wednesday. He’s been at fault for two goals in two games. I don’t accept that from any player. Batth’s flatfootedness and turning circle was the reason for Boro’s first not the half a yard between him and Smith. The corners were just well worked goals, plenty of players lose their man during them.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 28, 2019 13:12:04 GMT
He’s been at fault for two goals in two games. I don’t accept that from any player. Batth’s flatfootedness and turning circle was the reason for Boro’s first not the half a yard between him and Smith. The corners were just well worked goals, plenty of players lose their man during them. Smith has to cover for the first. Batth can’t see their player, Smith can. And if you lose your man, you’re at fault, simple. Not as bad as Allen for the second mind as he is at least trying to make amends. Allen just can’t be arsed to mark properly. If Ince makes the “effort” Allen does for that second there’s absolute hell up on here. It’s so bad.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 28, 2019 13:13:11 GMT
We need to stick with him and give him a run in the team.
He's got a good record in this division, so there's a good player in there somewhere. Let's hope Mick can get the best out of him.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 28, 2019 13:16:21 GMT
He's bang average. Absolutely fucking mugged off price wise....again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 15:43:34 GMT
Batth’s flatfootedness and turning circle was the reason for Boro’s first not the half a yard between him and Smith. The corners were just well worked goals, plenty of players lose their man during them. Smith has to cover for the first. Batth can’t see their player, Smith can. And if you lose your man, you’re at fault, simple. Not as bad as Allen for the second mind as he is at least trying to make amends. Allen just can’t be arsed to mark properly. If Ince makes the “effort” Allen does for that second there’s absolute hell up on here. It’s so bad. I’m not sure about that. Batth has a one on one that he can’t even make because he’s always playing like he’s running in cement. Fletcher isn’t known for his quickness and yet he destroys Batth. As the senior player and the centre half in the team, he should have been organising the line. It didn’t happen vs Wednesday because the decision making was out of his hands.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Dec 28, 2019 15:47:34 GMT
He’s been at fault for two goals in two games. I don’t accept that from any player. Batth’s flatfootedness and turning circle was the reason for Boro’s first not the half a yard between him and Smith. The corners were just well worked goals, plenty of players lose their man during them. Their corner taker takes better corners than we have for years
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Post by christhepotter on Dec 28, 2019 16:39:26 GMT
Smith was behind the Sheff player and McClean was goalside, the corner was played low towards the front post, that should be the area that McClean attacks, he didn't he is flat footed as you say and the Sheff player gets in front of both to flick the ball back. A well worked corner and as I said originally Smith wasn't completely at fault Smith was completely at fault. No one should be getting a run at it. Smith allows that to happen. Smith at fault for the first against Boro too. Imagine if Edwards had done that. 😂 . Your just a biased git because you love Edwards , yeah Smith could have done better but that should be McClean and Wards job near post , Smith has a good game , if defenders were to win every ball played into the box they would be at a top premier league club
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Post by christhepotter on Dec 28, 2019 16:40:14 GMT
He's bang average. Absolutely fucking mugged off price wise....again. But still the best right back we have 🤷♂️
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 28, 2019 17:00:35 GMT
He's bang average. Absolutely fucking mugged off price wise....again. But still the best right back we have 🤷♂️ Is he. I would have fucked him off to Mars after that shit of his at 'Boro. He's wank.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 17:53:48 GMT
Allen was meant to be marking the bloke that scored and couldn’t be arsed. 😂 As I said no mention of the bloke out jumped🤔 He didn't jump much at all
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 28, 2019 17:56:48 GMT
Smith was completely at fault. No one should be getting a run at it. Smith allows that to happen. Smith at fault for the first against Boro too. Imagine if Edwards had done that. 😂 . Your just a biased git because you love Edwards , yeah Smith could have done better but that should be McClean and Wards job near post , Smith has a good game , if defenders were to win every ball played into the box they would be at a top premier league club Smith let his man go. That man scored.
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Post by mamasgloves on Dec 28, 2019 18:54:55 GMT
Smith was behind the Sheff player and McClean was goalside, the corner was played low towards the front post, that should be the area that McClean attacks, he didn't he is flat footed as you say and the Sheff player gets in front of both to flick the ball back. A well worked corner and as I said originally Smith wasn't completely at fault Smith was completely at fault. No one should be getting a run at it. Smith allows that to happen. Smith at fault for the first against Boro too. Imagine if Edwards had done that. 😂 You're obsessed mate, it's unhealthy. I see you're doing the same on Twitter too 🙄
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Post by mamasgloves on Dec 28, 2019 18:56:16 GMT
Should be noted that if Smith was a left back and not occupying the position of the English boy wonder that is Tom Edwards, Bayern wouldn’t be giving him half as much grief. Very little wrong with Smith’s performance vs Wednesday. He’s been at fault for two goals in two games. I don’t accept that from any player. Unless his name is Tom Edwards
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 28, 2019 19:47:13 GMT
Smith was completely at fault. No one should be getting a run at it. Smith allows that to happen. Smith at fault for the first against Boro too. Imagine if Edwards had done that. 😂 You're obsessed mate, it's unhealthy. I see you're doing the same on Twitter too 🙄 😂😂not at all. Just can’t stand double standards.
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Post by mamasgloves on Dec 28, 2019 21:31:45 GMT
You're obsessed mate, it's unhealthy. I see you're doing the same on Twitter too 🙄 😂😂not at all. Just can’t stand double standards. Like others have said elsewhere, point us to where Edwards' role in goals conceded is pored over in minute detail by you? After all, you can't stand double standards.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 28, 2019 21:35:25 GMT
. Your just a biased git because you love Edwards , yeah Smith could have done better but that should be McClean and Wards job near post , Smith has a good game , if defenders were to win every ball played into the box they would be at a top premier league club Smith let his man go. That man scored. What's the point of McClean being in the position that he is if he is not going to clear/block/intercept balls towards the front post?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 28, 2019 21:41:57 GMT
😂😂not at all. Just can’t stand double standards. Like others have said elsewhere, point us to where Edwards' role in goals conceded is pored over in minute detail by you? After all, you can't stand double standards. Pored over? I just mentioned he lost his man. Fucking he’ll fire 😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 28, 2019 21:43:30 GMT
Smith let his man go. That man scored. What's the point of McClean being in the position that he is if he is not going to clear/block/intercept balls towards the front post? That is his job but if a player has a run on him then he’s not going to do that and it’s why you need the man marking. That player at the near post is redundant almost if a player is running free from behind him.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 28, 2019 22:00:57 GMT
What's the point of McClean being in the position that he is if he is not going to clear/block/intercept balls towards the front post? That is his job but if a player has a run on him then he’s not going to do that and it’s why you need the man marking. That player at the near post is redundant almost if a player is running free from behind him. Agreed and as you have said earlier in the thread McClean was caught flat footed. I'm no way blaming McClean I'm just pointing out that blame for that goal can be shared around and was not 'completely the fault' of Smith. It was a very well worked corner routine that was probably practiced on the training ground with the knowledge that we don't put players on the post, as was the second Sheff goal.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 28, 2019 22:06:18 GMT
That is his job but if a player has a run on him then he’s not going to do that and it’s why you need the man marking. That player at the near post is redundant almost if a player is running free from behind him. Agreed and as you have said earlier in the thread McClean was caught flat footed. I'm no way blaming McClean I'm just pointing out that blame for that goal can be shared around and was not 'completely the fault' of Smith. It was a very well worked corner routine that was probably practiced on the training ground with the knowledge that we don't put players on the post, as was the second Sheff goal. McClean cannot be expected to win the header once a player has the run on him. What stops both goals is our players marking their men.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 28, 2019 22:10:29 GMT
Agreed and as you have said earlier in the thread McClean was caught flat footed. I'm no way blaming McClean I'm just pointing out that blame for that goal can be shared around and was not 'completely the fault' of Smith. It was a very well worked corner routine that was probably practiced on the training ground with the knowledge that we don't put players on the post, as was the second Sheff goal. McClean cannot be expected to win the header once a player has the run on him. What stops both goals is our players marking their men. It wasn't a header, it was clipped in low to the area where McClean was defending but we're going round in circles now. You think Smith was completely at fault for that goal, I don't. I think that sums it up
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 29, 2019 15:29:06 GMT
Where was the right back?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 15:30:18 GMT
Where was the right back? Wasn’t it offside?
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Post by goal_poster on Dec 29, 2019 15:30:58 GMT
Where was the right back? He was about 2 metres away from Reid holding his hands in the air.
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