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Post by heyzeus on Dec 25, 2019 10:32:40 GMT
Hello friends  I hope you have a happy and holy Christmas Please remember Jesus today, and if you don't believe then have a long hard think about what you're actually trying to achieve by celebrating This is a great website, and has really encouraged me to carry on making music. I will deliver more tracks for my fans next year and I hope we can engage in lots of theological debate |
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Post by lordb on Dec 25, 2019 10:47:59 GMT
It's not a celebration of Jesus, at least for the vast majority it's not, it's two fingers up to winter and has been for an eternity before Jesus was even around.
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Post by Billy the kid on Dec 25, 2019 11:02:38 GMT
How convenient that christmas falls near enough at the same time as the winter solstice. And we celebrate the new year as 2020 AD
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Post by heyzeus on Dec 25, 2019 11:06:01 GMT
How convenient that christmas falls near enough at the same time as the winter solstice. And we celebrate the new year as 2020 AD Have you seen the weather forecast in Bethlehem today?  |
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Post by Gods on Dec 25, 2019 11:08:38 GMT
Yes winter solstice moves a little but always around 21st / 22nd December.
In my mind I think Christmas is the 25th since it took them 3 or 4 days to really twig for certain the season was changing and we're not after all being plunged in to interminable 24 hour darkness.
A celebration of that change.
Then Christians came along and stuck a whole bunch of paraphernalia around the whole thing.
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 26, 2019 9:54:57 GMT
I couldn’t find the Trump thread, so as it’s Christmasy, this will do...
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Post by starkiller on Dec 26, 2019 12:52:29 GMT
Hello friends I hope you have a happy and holy Christmas Please remember Jesus today, and if you don't believe then have a long hard think about what you're actually trying to achieve by celebrating This is a great website, and has really encouraged me to carry on making music. I will deliver more tracks for my fans next year and I hope we can engage in lots of theological debate I'm celebrating in similar ways to those thousands of years before Christianity hijacked the festival - feasting, drinking and fornicating. |
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Post by heyzeus on Dec 26, 2019 15:41:04 GMT
Hello friends I hope you have a happy and holy Christmas Please remember Jesus today, and if you don't believe then have a long hard think about what you're actually trying to achieve by celebrating This is a great website, and has really encouraged me to carry on making music. I will deliver more tracks for my fans next year and I hope we can engage in lots of theological debate I'm celebrating in similar ways to those thousands of years before Christianity hijacked the festival - feasting, drinking and fornicating. You don't need to celebrate Christmas to be gluttonous, feckless and promiscuous. Please think about your lifestyle and celebrate the birth of the man who died so you can live |
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Post by elystokie on Dec 26, 2019 21:27:18 GMT
I'm celebrating in similar ways to those thousands of years before Christianity hijacked the festival - feasting, drinking and fornicating. You don't need to celebrate Christmas to be gluttonous, feckless and promiscuous. Please think about your lifestyle and celebrate the birth of the man who died so you can live Having established some background behind his healing miracles, how d'you reckon he managed to come back from the dead? |
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Post by heyzeus on Dec 26, 2019 21:50:59 GMT
You don't need to celebrate Christmas to be gluttonous, feckless and promiscuous. Please think about your lifestyle and celebrate the birth of the man who died so you can live Having established some background behind his healing miracles, how d'you reckon he managed to come back from the dead? It's in the Bible, friend |
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Post by elystokie on Dec 26, 2019 21:56:40 GMT
Having established some background behind his healing miracles, how d'you reckon he managed to come back from the dead? It's in the Bible, friend I imagine it is but why are you reticent about telling me, are you not here to educate us in the ways of your god? |
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Post by felonious on Dec 26, 2019 21:58:26 GMT
It's not a celebration of Jesus, at least for the vast majority it's not, it's two fingers up to winter and has been for an eternity before Jesus was even around. How dare you call yourself lord, there's only one Lord  |
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Post by heyzeus on Dec 26, 2019 22:01:19 GMT
It's in the Bible, friend I imagine it is but why are you reticent about telling me, are you not here to educate us in the ways of your god? He's your God too |
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Post by elystokie on Dec 26, 2019 22:13:16 GMT
I imagine it is but why are you reticent about telling me, are you not here to educate us in the ways of your god? He's your God too Whether he is or isn't has nothing to do with the question, not a lot of difference between religious zealots and politicians it seems, you don't get a straight answer from either |
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Post by heyzeus on Dec 26, 2019 22:14:06 GMT
He's your God too Whether he is or isn't has nothing to do with the question, not a lot of difference between religious zealots and politicians it seems, you don't get a straight answer from either Friend, I can't make you go on the journey. I can only show you the way |
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Post by elystokie on Dec 26, 2019 22:18:58 GMT
Whether he is or isn't has nothing to do with the question, not a lot of difference between religious zealots and politicians it seems, you don't get a straight answer from either Friend, I can't make you go on the journey. I can only show you the way I'm not planning any journeys for a month or two but thanks. I'm feeling quite drawn towards Buddhism truth be told, need to investigate it further. Or rastafarianism, might struggle with the dreads tho, I'm thinning somewhat on top, d'you think they're compulsory? |
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 26, 2019 22:32:43 GMT
Friend, I can't make you go on the journey. I can only show you the way I'm not planning any journeys for a month or two but thanks. I'm feeling quite drawn towards Buddhism truth be told, need to investigate it further. Or rastafarianism, might struggle with the dreads tho, I'm thinning somewhat on top, d'you think they're compulsory? Rastafari, One of the 4 Abrahamic religions... |
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Post by felonious on Dec 26, 2019 22:37:09 GMT
Friend, I can't make you go on the journey. I can only show you the way I'm not planning any journeys for a month or two but thanks. I'm feeling quite drawn towards Buddhism truth be told, need to investigate it further. Or rastafarianism, might struggle with the dreads tho, I'm thinning somewhat on top, d'you think they're compulsory? If you manage the dreads don't forget to share on the post a photo thread |
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Post by elystokie on Dec 26, 2019 22:44:27 GMT
I'm not planning any journeys for a month or two but thanks. I'm feeling quite drawn towards Buddhism truth be told, need to investigate it further. Or rastafarianism, might struggle with the dreads tho, I'm thinning somewhat on top, d'you think they're compulsory? If you manage the dreads don't forget to share on the post a photo thread I will, we might be back in the Premiership by the time I've grown them tho, my eldest has them actually, over halfway down his back now, he gets some strange looks when he sits in 1st class on the train  Not cheap, a visit to the 'dread doctor' is over £100 a go! |
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Post by heyzeus on Dec 27, 2019 0:18:49 GMT
Friend, I can't make you go on the journey. I can only show you the way I'm not planning any journeys for a month or two but thanks. I'm feeling quite drawn towards Buddhism truth be told, need to investigate it further. Or rastafarianism, might struggle with the dreads tho, I'm thinning somewhat on top, d'you think they're compulsory? The journey is spiritual |
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 27, 2019 8:25:23 GMT
If you manage the dreads don't forget to share on the post a photo thread I will, we might be back in the Premiership by the time I've grown them tho, my eldest has them actually, over halfway down his back now, he gets some strange looks when he sits in 1st class on the train Not cheap, a visit to the 'dread doctor' is over £100 a go! Is your son a Trustafarian Ely... |
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Post by elystokie on Dec 27, 2019 9:29:18 GMT
I will, we might be back in the Premiership by the time I've grown them tho, my eldest has them actually, over halfway down his back now, he gets some strange looks when he sits in 1st class on the train Not cheap, a visit to the 'dread doctor' is over £100 a go! Is your son a Trustafarian Ely... Don't know what one is mate, we call him the Pastafarian.. |
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 28, 2019 12:22:43 GMT
It's in the Bible, friend I imagine it is but why are you reticent about telling me, are you not here to educate us in the ways of your god? If you want to be educated on the resurrection, I suggest you read "Who Moved The Stone?" by Frank Morrison. Putting aside religious belief, which it appears you do not have and is a matter of faith and cannot be proven, as a first step consider those people that have been declared dead in error: www.independent.co.uk/news/world/halloween-come-back-life-waking-dead-funerals-mortuaries-confirm-russia-egypt-a8023916.htmlBilly Graham was asked to give a talk at a major American university. After his speech at dinner, he thanked the president of the university for the invitation, as he was not often asked to speak at academic institutions. The university president, said that was perfectly OK; they invited him as an open minded gesture to hear a Christian's view on life etc., but he himself was an atheist. Billy Graham said , "Is that right, in that case would you do something for me?" The president replied he would and Graham asked him to read the Gospel according to St John and let him know what he thought. Some months later after reading John's Gospel the university president rang Graham, who asked what his opinion on Christianity was now. The president replied "Well I still don't believe, but I would now describe myself as an agnostic rather than an atheist." Graham replied "Well at least that is a step in the right direction." |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 28, 2019 12:37:17 GMT
You don't need to celebrate Christmas to be gluttonous, feckless and promiscuous. Please think about your lifestyle and celebrate the birth of the man who died so you can live Having established some background behind his healing miracles, how d'you reckon he managed to come back from the dead? I would have thought us coming back from the dead, on the very day you posted this, is proof enough that HE can do anything! |
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 28, 2019 12:51:52 GMT
I imagine it is but why are you reticent about telling me, are you not here to educate us in the ways of your god? If you want to be educated on the resurrection, I suggest you read "Who Moved The Stone?" by Frank Morrison. Putting aside religious belief, which it appears you do not have and is a matter of faith and cannot be proven, as a first step consider those people that have been declared dead in error: www.independent.co.uk/news/world/halloween-come-back-life-waking-dead-funerals-mortuaries-confirm-russia-egypt-a8023916.htmlBilly Graham was asked to give a talk at a major American university. After his speech at dinner, he thanked the president of the university for the invitation, as he was not often asked to speak at academic institutions. The university president, said that was perfectly OK; they invited him as an open minded gesture to hear a Christian's view on life etc., but he himself was an atheist. Billy Graham said , "Is that right, in that case would you do something for me?" The president replied he would and Graham asked him to read the Gospel according to St John and let him know what he thought. Some months later after reading John's Gospel the university president rang Graham, who asked what his opinion on Christianity was now. The president replied "Well I still don't believe, but I would now describe myself as an agnostic rather than an atheist." Graham replied "Well at least that is a step in the right direction."Which demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of the terms atheist and agnostic on the part of both men |
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Post by elystokie on Dec 28, 2019 13:02:18 GMT
I imagine it is but why are you reticent about telling me, are you not here to educate us in the ways of your god? If you want to be educated on the resurrection, I suggest you read "Who Moved The Stone?" by Frank Morrison. Putting aside religious belief, which it appears you do not have and is a matter of faith and cannot be proven, as a first step consider those people that have been declared dead in error: www.independent.co.uk/news/world/halloween-come-back-life-waking-dead-funerals-mortuaries-confirm-russia-egypt-a8023916.htmlBilly Graham was asked to give a talk at a major American university. After his speech at dinner, he thanked the president of the university for the invitation, as he was not often asked to speak at academic institutions. The university president, said that was perfectly OK; they invited him as an open minded gesture to hear a Christian's view on life etc., but he himself was an atheist. Billy Graham said , "Is that right, in that case would you do something for me?" The president replied he would and Graham asked him to read the Gospel according to St John and let him know what he thought. Some months later after reading John's Gospel the university president rang Graham, who asked what his opinion on Christianity was now. The president replied "Well I still don't believe, but I would now describe myself as an agnostic rather than an atheist." Graham replied "Well at least that is a step in the right direction."I was just interested in his thoughts, personally I think it was more drug shenanigans www.mandrakeconnection.com/None of it proves anything one way or another, I just find it interesting. |
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Post by cerebralstokie on Dec 28, 2019 13:09:55 GMT
You'll know about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who lay awake at night wondering if there was a dog.
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Post by elystokie on Dec 29, 2019 9:07:45 GMT
Having established some background behind his healing miracles, how d'you reckon he managed to come back from the dead? I would have thought us coming back from the dead, on the very day you posted this, is proof enough that HE can do anything! So, water into wine, shall we wait until after the game to sort that one out, just in case |
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Post by heyzeus on Dec 29, 2019 12:18:54 GMT
I imagine it is but why are you reticent about telling me, are you not here to educate us in the ways of your god? If you want to be educated on the resurrection, I suggest you read "Who Moved The Stone?" by Frank Morrison. Putting aside religious belief, which it appears you do not have and is a matter of faith and cannot be proven, as a first step consider those people that have been declared dead in error: www.independent.co.uk/news/world/halloween-come-back-life-waking-dead-funerals-mortuaries-confirm-russia-egypt-a8023916.htmlBilly Graham was asked to give a talk at a major American university. After his speech at dinner, he thanked the president of the university for the invitation, as he was not often asked to speak at academic institutions. The university president, said that was perfectly OK; they invited him as an open minded gesture to hear a Christian's view on life etc., but he himself was an atheist. Billy Graham said , "Is that right, in that case would you do something for me?" The president replied he would and Graham asked him to read the Gospel according to St John and let him know what he thought. Some months later after reading John's Gospel the university president rang Graham, who asked what his opinion on Christianity was now. The president replied "Well I still don't believe, but I would now describe myself as an agnostic rather than an atheist." Graham replied "Well at least that is a step in the right direction."Many people have said that my music has had a similar effect |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 29, 2019 12:33:11 GMT
I would have thought us coming back from the dead, on the very day you posted this, is proof enough that HE can do anything! So, water into wine, shall we wait until after the game to sort that one out, just in case Knowing Stoke today it'll be wine into pish! |
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