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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 20:53:15 GMT
There's a quality footballer in there but no way is he a lone striker - far too fragile. False number nine with players playing off him maybe - looks like a smart player who can pick a pass. The challenge there is getting others on his wavelength. That is a huge challenge when Powell's would be partners are McClean, Ward, and Vokes.
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Post by onyourbonce on Dec 17, 2019 22:00:18 GMT
When he’s fit get him in the fucking team Christ. He can score and create he’s a danger and a game changer and we havnt got many so get him in the bastarding team.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 17, 2019 23:13:38 GMT
Powell on the right, my god , I know Ince isn't exactly rapid but compared to Powell he's Usain Bolt, I'd happily see Powell given a few games but it would have to be as a 10 or instead of Vokes other than that there's no place for him in the side.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 18, 2019 8:23:52 GMT
Interesting that he finds his way on to Percy's potential hit list
Although probably not surprising if we don't see him as offering anything in any position except just behind the striker, which isn't a MON favourite
Wonder what the market for him would be?
If we price him sensibly, given the alleged interest in him over the summer, there probably would be takers.
But staying in the north-west on good money would probably limit the field
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 18, 2019 16:48:14 GMT
Who was the best player you worked with? Nick Powell is an outstanding footballer, the best I’ve coached. What a talent.
Now it hasn’t quite happened for him in the way it should have done in my opinion, due to injuries and a little bit of his own fault at times, and luck of the draw at times.
But he was outstanding.
I think Nick would have done it whoever was his coach.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Dec 18, 2019 17:21:32 GMT
Hopefully our manager will read that!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 17:21:49 GMT
Be nice if there had been some evidence in Powell's various cameos for us that he is indeed blessed with a midas touch. It looked to me like the game simply passes him by. Has he actually had a kick for us? I do recall a header skimming the woodwork. He looks like a man swimming lengths while a water polo game is going on around him. It was only pre season, but he scored a wonder goal vs Leicester. Although he didn't actually intend to! Next game, first game of the season, he played ok but was injured and then out. Even when fit again, and with Stoke struggling, Jones, in character, refused to play the only player who was a natural fit for the tip of the diamond. His cameos have really been too short for him to assert himself, and the team doesn't know how to play him right, and I suspect the manager also doesn't. So none of us really know whether he has what it takes to be a good player for us or not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 17:33:28 GMT
Interesting that he finds his way on to Percy's potential hit list Although probably not surprising if we don't see him as offering anything in any position except just behind the striker, which isn't a MON favourite Wonder what the market for him would be? If we price him sensibly, given the alleged interest in him over the summer, there probably would be takers. But staying in the north-west on good money would probably limit the field Considering we signed him on a free 6 months ago, and that he hasn't played much, I'd be surprised if we can get anything at all, or at most, a nominal fee. We could give him another free, to take his wages off us - seems to be the thing of the moment - or we could let him run down his contract in 18 months time and then free him. We could of course buck the trend and give him an extended run in the team, time enough for him to find his proper place in the team and for the team to know how to play him, but with O'Neill at the helm it's not very likely.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 18, 2019 17:37:18 GMT
Weird signing. Didn't suit the system Jones supposedly wanted to play. Certainly doesn't suit O'Neill's. Exciting, intelligent player but if he can't stay fit and you don't play to his strengths it's hard to see the point.
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Post by s7oke on Dec 18, 2019 17:49:26 GMT
I'd certainly play him ahead of Ince! I would play Keith Scott ahead of Ince
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Post by march4 on Dec 18, 2019 18:40:37 GMT
I'd certainly play him ahead of Ince! I would play Keith Scott ahead of Ince Can’t we swap him for Sheron?
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Post by medwaypotter on Dec 18, 2019 19:29:25 GMT
Weird signing. Didn't suit the system Jones supposedly wanted to play. Certainly doesn't suit O'Neill's. Exciting, intelligent player but if he can't stay fit and you don't play to his strengths it's hard to see the point. Top of a diamond ?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 18, 2019 20:20:01 GMT
Weird signing. Didn't suit the system Jones supposedly wanted to play. Certainly doesn't suit O'Neill's. Exciting, intelligent player but if he can't stay fit and you don't play to his strengths it's hard to see the point. Top of a diamond ? Not all no 10s are the same. Jones’ no 10 needed to be a hard yards, intense, industrious Dele Ali type, not a floaty, fragile ethereal creative type?
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Post by medwaypotter on Dec 18, 2019 20:26:59 GMT
Not all no 10s are the same. Jones’ no 10 needed to be a hard yards, intense, industrious Dele Ali type, not a floaty, fragile ethereal creative type? I agree with your sentiment, however did any of Jones' signings actually fit his 'philosophy' ?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 18, 2019 20:28:22 GMT
Not all no 10s are the same. Jones’ no 10 needed to be a hard yards, intense, industrious Dele Ali type, not a floaty, fragile ethereal creative type? I agree with your sentiment, however did any of Jones' signings actually fit his 'philosophy' ? Not really and they were all weird signings. Hard to fathom them.
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Post by medwaypotter on Dec 18, 2019 20:33:17 GMT
I agree with your sentiment, however did any of Jones' signings actually fit his 'philosophy' ? Not really and they were all weird signings. Hard to fathom them. In hindsight, and I really bought into him, he just talked bollocks, and made more promises than Corbyn.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 18, 2019 20:40:37 GMT
Not really and they were all weird signings. Hard to fathom them. In hindsight, and I really bought into him, he just talked bollocks, and made more promises than Corbyn. That’s how I feel. I bought into him and the plan but he was a million miles out of his depth.
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Post by Championship Potter on Dec 18, 2019 20:48:01 GMT
Imagine the main issue with getting a decent fee is that he's probably on a bumper wage that we agreed to fend off the alleged competition in the summer. Not sure there is much of a market unless we practically give him away, given his wages?
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Post by s7oke on Dec 18, 2019 21:08:09 GMT
I would play Keith Scott ahead of Ince Can’t we swap him for Sheron? Sheron was good though 😁
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 29, 2019 13:50:04 GMT
Looks like Powell another one not in the 18 again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 13:51:18 GMT
Looks like Powell another one not in the 18 again. Seems mad when we lack creativity so obviously.
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Post by shrewspotter on Dec 29, 2019 14:14:55 GMT
Powell definitely travelled, was a video of him getting off bus on insta
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Post by Veritas on Dec 29, 2019 14:20:40 GMT
Powell definitely travelled, was a video of him getting off bus on insta Travelled but not in the 18?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 14:42:43 GMT
Looks like Powell another one not in the 18 again. Seems mad when we lack creativity so obviously. We don’t use an attacking midfielder. We are trying to steady a team devoid of confidence who concede too easily. Powell wouldn’t be my first choice, but he would be on the bench as an option.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 14:50:26 GMT
Seems mad when we lack creativity so obviously. We don’t use an attacking midfielder. We are trying to steady a team devoid of confidence who concede too easily. Powell wouldn’t be my first choice, but he would be on the bench as an option. Well yeah, same. I'd probably start him to be honest, I think the 433 is a bit crap. Boxing Day aside, we've generally looked poor with it. That being said, Boxing Day was good so I won't have a go at him for carrying on!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 29, 2019 16:59:36 GMT
We didn’t need a creative player in that game at all.....
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Dec 29, 2019 17:00:41 GMT
We didn’t need a creative player in that game at all..... Especially one who has done so much in his other starts
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 29, 2019 17:01:30 GMT
We don’t use an attacking midfielder. We are trying to steady a team devoid of confidence who concede too easily. Powell wouldn’t be my first choice, but he would be on the bench as an option. Well yeah, same. I'd probably start him to be honest, I think the 433 is a bit crap. Boxing Day aside, we've generally looked poor with it. That being said, Boxing Day was good so I won't have a go at him for carrying on! It’s not the formation that’s crap. Liverpool and Man City both play 433.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 17:01:57 GMT
We didn’t need a creative player in that game at all..... To be fair, we created a lot of chances in the second half. I fail to see what Powell would have done in the first half when we were pegged back and defending all game.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 29, 2019 17:01:57 GMT
We didn’t need a creative player in that game at all..... Especially one who has done so much in his other starts He’s started about 2 games hasn’t he? 😂
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