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Post by mano00001 on Dec 1, 2019 22:05:56 GMT
The bookies still have us 5th favs to go down!
Not sure why this is since we have lost most games this year and look like a broken dead team
What ye reckon??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 22:07:09 GMT
Balancing the books according to bets laid maybe?
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 1, 2019 22:08:33 GMT
The bookies still have us 5th favs to go down! Not sure why this is since we have lost most games this year and look like a broken dead team What ye reckon?? I reckon you're the most negative poster ever to grace this message board and believe me I've seem some real fucking wrist slashers on here. Gouranga.
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Post by mano00001 on Dec 1, 2019 22:08:49 GMT
Balancing the books according to bets laid maybe? Quite possible but seems strange that we are such a high price considering how we are playing
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Post by mano00001 on Dec 1, 2019 22:11:00 GMT
The bookies still have us 5th favs to go down! Not sure why this is since we have lost most games this year and look like a broken dead team What ye reckon?? I reckon you're the most negative poster ever to grace this message board and believe me I've seem some real fucking wrist slashers on here. Gouranga. Very hard to be postive when your club is on free fall and you cant see how we are going to get out if it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 22:11:50 GMT
Balancing the books according to bets laid maybe? Quite possible but seems strange that we are such a high price considering how we are playing A certainty, not a "quite possible". You do know that betting odds reflect the betting market?
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 1, 2019 22:17:43 GMT
I reckon you're the most negative poster ever to grace this message board and believe me I've seem some real fucking wrist slashers on here. Gouranga. Very hard to be postive when your club is on free fall and you cant see how we are going to get out if it In all your 14 posts you haven't posted 1 single thing that's remotely positive (correct spelling), try getting behind the manager and team you never know it might stop you slashing your wrists. Gouranga.
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Post by mano00001 on Dec 1, 2019 22:26:07 GMT
Very hard to be postive when your club is on free fall and you cant see how we are going to get out if it In all your 14 posts you haven't posted 1 single thing that's remotely positive (correct spelling), try getting behind the manager and team you never know it might stop you slashing your wrists. Gouranga. I do think MON is the man to keep us in this divison but we need to be in touch come Jan to have any chance and I do reckon we need 7pts from next 4 games to have any chance of being in touch
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 22:28:07 GMT
In all your 14 posts you haven't posted 1 single thing that's remotely positive (correct spelling), try getting behind the manager and team you never know it might stop you slashing your wrists. Gouranga. I do think MON is the man to keep us in this divison but we need to be in touch come Jan to have any chance and I do reckon we need 7pts from next 4 games to have any chance of being in touch ok
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Post by Gods on Dec 1, 2019 22:39:42 GMT
I see with Bet365 after Saturday's defeat we went from 5/1 to go down to 4/1, quite a shortening of the odds.
It's still £100,000 on a £25,000 stake, must be tempting for anyone who really believes it will happen, for what it's worth I think we will stay up, some how !
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 23:00:41 GMT
I see with Bet365 after Saturday's defeat we went from 5/1 to go down to 4/1, quite a shortening of the odds. It's still £100,000 on a £25,000 stake, must be tempting for anyone who really believes it will happen, for what it's worth I think we will stay up, some how ! Go on Gods - bung on £25,000. you know you want to.
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Post by georgieboy52 on Dec 1, 2019 23:08:53 GMT
I see with Bet365 after Saturday's defeat we went from 5/1 to go down to 4/1, quite a shortening of the odds. It's still £100,000 on a £25,000 stake, must be tempting for anyone who really believes it will happen, for what it's worth I think we will stay up, some how ! Go on Gods - bung on £25,000. you know you want to. You can actually get on at 9/2 for Stoke to go down with Betway. The bookies will have factored in Stoke's owners have deeper pockets than those of the 4 or 5 others at shorter prices for the drop.
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Post by Gods on Dec 1, 2019 23:10:38 GMT
I see with Bet365 after Saturday's defeat we went from 5/1 to go down to 4/1, quite a shortening of the odds. It's still £100,000 on a £25,000 stake, must be tempting for anyone who really believes it will happen, for what it's worth I think we will stay up, some how ! Go on Gods - bung on £25,000. you know you want to. What do they say? There are people who talk about doing things and there are people who do them, sadly I'm in the first category
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Post by georgieboy52 on Dec 1, 2019 23:14:08 GMT
Go on Gods - bung on £25,000. you know you want to. What do they say? There are people who talk about doing things and there are people who do them, sadly I'm in the first category I wouldn't call that sad I'd call it wise. Literally only a handful of punters make any money from gambling in the long term. Especially on football.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 1, 2019 23:22:14 GMT
Quite possible but seems strange that we are such a high price considering how we are playing A certainty, not a "quite possible". You do know that betting odds reflect the betting market? This seems to be something that is somehow overlooked. The odds reflect what people actually bet on and changed accordingly. I think some people are under the illusion that these odds are fixed on what bookies actually think will happen! The days when bookies think have long gone.
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Post by georgieboy52 on Dec 1, 2019 23:35:15 GMT
I also think Stoke will avoid the drop but they can shove the miserable odds-on 1/3 to stay up where the sun don't shine.
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 2, 2019 4:29:39 GMT
The odds are purely reflective of how much money has been laid across the board on every team. Less money has been bet on Stoke than let’s say Barnsley, Luton or Wigan. The “True Odds” of our probable relegation are more likely to be around 5/4 at present.
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Post by Little Gary Patel on Dec 2, 2019 7:03:06 GMT
The odds are purely reflective of how much money has been laid across the board on every team. Less money has been bet on Stoke than let’s say Barnsley, Luton or Wigan. The “True Odds” of our probable relegation are more likely to be around 5/4 at present. So bookies are offering 4/1 about something that should be 5/4 😂😂😂😂 Think about what you're saying
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Post by threepoints on Dec 2, 2019 7:41:16 GMT
The bookies still have us 5th favs to go down! Not sure why this is since we have lost most games this year and look like a broken dead team What ye reckon??
Sounds about right to me. I think that we will (just) stay up. If we haven't moved out of the bottom three after the Xmas matches then I'll be worried.
We need to buy a couple of players and slim down the squad - trouble is, I can't see anyone wanting to buy many of Stoke's players, or them wanting to go without a pay off, Berhinio style. Not a good position to be in.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 2, 2019 9:56:17 GMT
The odds are purely reflective of how much money has been laid across the board on every team. Less money has been bet on Stoke than let’s say Barnsley, Luton or Wigan. The “True Odds” of our probable relegation are more likely to be around 5/4 at present. So bookies are offering 4/1 about something that should be 5/4 😂😂😂😂 Think about what you're saying I dont see what is so strange about this 4/1 reflects the betting. i.e. where the money is actually going and 5/4 is based on the poster's own opinion It's not uncommon for odds to seem like a decent bet to an individual based on their opinion. If a lot of people start having a wager on it, the odds are not going to be staying at 4/1 for very long.
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 2, 2019 20:15:40 GMT
The odds are purely reflective of how much money has been laid across the board on every team. Less money has been bet on Stoke than let’s say Barnsley, Luton or Wigan. The “True Odds” of our probable relegation are more likely to be around 5/4 at present. So bookies are offering 4/1 about something that should be 5/4 😂😂😂😂 Think about what you're saying Re-read my thread. Try and understand the difference between “bookies” odds and the “probability” of something happening. They are not the same thing. Hope that helps.
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Post by mickey2693 on Dec 2, 2019 20:22:51 GMT
So bookies are offering 4/1 about something that should be 5/4 😂😂😂😂 Think about what you're saying I dont see what is so strange about this 4/1 reflects the betting. i.e. where the money is actually going and 5/4 is based on the poster's own opinion It's not uncommon for odds to seem like a decent bet to an individual based on their opinion. If a lot of people start having a wager on it, the odds are not going to be staying at 4/1 for very long. I know that's the case on some markets, but how is possible on relegation odds? Surely people betting on Stoke to be relegated from 5th favourite couldn't move them to favourites.
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