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Post by salopstick on Dec 5, 2019 13:35:55 GMT
Sets a precedent for sky to raise the prices on all their boxing ppv PPV in the US is usually 50-80GBP, this one is DAZN which is about 8GBP/month. Ridiculous prices
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Post by zerps on Dec 5, 2019 13:51:21 GMT
What times the ring walk?
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Post by borat on Dec 5, 2019 14:03:18 GMT
What times the ring walk? About 8.
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Post by zerps on Dec 5, 2019 14:17:11 GMT
What times the ring walk? About 8. Brilliant
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 5, 2019 14:21:42 GMT
What times the ring walk? I’ve heard it’s more like 9...
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Post by trentvale68 on Dec 5, 2019 17:00:53 GMT
Can you imagine what Mike Tyson in his prime would have done to either of these fighters??!!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 5, 2019 22:41:32 GMT
AJ in 3 rounds.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 5, 2019 23:48:01 GMT
What times the ring walk? I’ve heard it’s more like 9... It's a long walk.
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Post by serpico on Dec 6, 2019 14:08:00 GMT
Ruiz weighs in at 283 pounds, thats heavier than the first fight where he was 268. Joshua almost at a career lightest just under 17 stone.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 6, 2019 14:12:42 GMT
Ruiz weighs in at 283 pounds, thats heavier than the first fight where he was 268. Joshua almost at a career lightest just under 17 stone. I thought he'd slimmed down? (Ruiz, I mean).
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Post by serpico on Dec 6, 2019 14:16:48 GMT
Ruiz weighs in at 283 pounds, thats heavier than the first fight where he was 268. Joshua almost at a career lightest just under 17 stone. I thought he'd slimmed down? (Ruiz, I mean). The ruiz camp put out a couple of photos which seemed to show that, but i think they were playing games with camera angles to make it look like he'd lost weight. AJ looked visibly shrunken at the weigh in, just hope he hasn't over adjusted and it takes away from what made him so good in the first place.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Dec 6, 2019 14:33:59 GMT
Can you imagine what Mike Tyson in his prime would have done to either of these fighters??!!
In a ring or a hotel room?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Dec 6, 2019 14:35:13 GMT
Ruiz weighs in at 283 pounds "fat as fuck", thats heavier than the first fight where he was 268. Joshua almost at a career lightest just under 17 stone.
Amended
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Post by serpico on Dec 6, 2019 14:47:37 GMT
either ruiz hasn't trained very well or this is part of the plan, maybe the money has gone to his head ? it does happen to fighters who suddenly come into massive money, but from what ive read about ruiz he's no dummy and neither are the people around him, i think he's looking to close the show early.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Dec 6, 2019 14:54:40 GMT
Something's got to give if one is much heavier and the other much lighter! Ruiz will look for a KO I reckon, within 7. Johusa wants the option to get around the ring more easily and pick him off later or win on points. The one result I can't see is Ruiz winning on points.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 6, 2019 15:19:10 GMT
either ruiz hasn't trained very well or this is part of the plan, maybe the money has gone to his head ? it does happen to fighters who suddenly come into massive money, but from what ive read about ruiz he's no dummy and neither are the people around him, i think he's looking to close the show early. Maybe he's done a Buster Douglas? He's actually very talented guy, but something tells me he's got "temporary" written all over him.
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Post by serpico on Dec 6, 2019 15:31:48 GMT
either ruiz hasn't trained very well or this is part of the plan, maybe the money has gone to his head ? it does happen to fighters who suddenly come into massive money, but from what ive read about ruiz he's no dummy and neither are the people around him, i think he's looking to close the show early. Maybe he's done a Buster Douglas? He's actually very talented guy, but something tells me he's got "temporary" written all over him. He doesn't fear Joshua, he knows he can hurt him badly, so maybe he's just going to go in there, bum rush AJ and throw bombs from the start ? get it done early, hence the weight gain. I'm tempted to go for Ruiz by early stoppage, i'm just not sure AJ has the tools in his kit to combat Ruiz when he comes forward, he's not going to have accuired the skills necessary in a 3-4 months training camp, i think aj is in trouble here. who knows, Maybe AJ just wasn't right for the first fight, maybe it will be business as usual, but i just cant see it, ruiz, i think, has his number.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 6, 2019 15:45:30 GMT
Maybe he's done a Buster Douglas? He's actually very talented guy, but something tells me he's got "temporary" written all over him. He doesn't fear Joshua, he knows he can hurt him badly, so maybe he's just going to go in there, bum rush AJ and throw bombs from the start ? get it done early, hence the weight gain. I'm tempted to go for Ruiz by early stoppage, i'm just not sure AJ has the tools in his kit to combat Ruiz when he comes forward, he's not going to have accuired the skills necessary in a 3-4 months training camp, i think aj is in trouble here. who knows, Maybe AJ just wasn't right for the first fight, maybe it will be business as usual, but i just cant see it, ruiz, i think, has his number. You might be right. I watched The Gloves Are Off interview and I didn't like Joshua’s body language at all. He didn't bridle when Ruiz said he had quit in the first fight, and seemed to accept it. Ruiz's chin is another factor. If he was a bit vulnerable in this department you could give Joshua a shot at blitzing Ruiz early, but he seemed pretty strong even after the knockdown. Yeah, I reckon Joshua will try and dominate behind the jab, hoping to break Ruiz down late, or keep him honest for the 12 rounds. The weight cut is obviously for the purposes of mobility, and it's feasible that he keep it long and get a points win. Ruiz has the advantage of knowing that he can hurt Ruiz at any time, though. Can't wait!
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 6, 2019 15:48:34 GMT
He doesn't fear Joshua, he knows he can hurt him badly, so maybe he's just going to go in there, bum rush AJ and throw bombs from the start ? get it done early, hence the weight gain. I'm tempted to go for Ruiz by early stoppage, i'm just not sure AJ has the tools in his kit to combat Ruiz when he comes forward, he's not going to have accuired the skills necessary in a 3-4 months training camp, i think aj is in trouble here. who knows, Maybe AJ just wasn't right for the first fight, maybe it will be business as usual, but i just cant see it, ruiz, i think, has his number. You might be right. I watched The Gloves Are Off interview and I didn't like Joshua’s body language at all. He didn't bridle when Ruiz said he had quit in the first fight, and seemed to accept it. Ruiz's chin is another factor. If he was a bit vulnerable in this department you could give Joshua a shot at blitzing Ruiz early, but he seemed pretty strong even after the knockdown. Yeah, I reckon Joshua will try and dominate behind the jab, hoping to break Ruiz down late, or keep him honest for the 12 rounds. The weight cut is obviously for the purposes of mobility, and it's feasible that he keep it long and get a points win. Ruiz has the advantage of knowing that he can hurt Ruiz at any time, though. Can't wait! I’m also my worst enemy... Me, Myself & I
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 6, 2019 15:49:35 GMT
You might be right. I watched The Gloves Are Off interview and I didn't like Joshua’s body language at all. He didn't bridle when Ruiz said he had quit in the first fight, and seemed to accept it. Ruiz's chin is another factor. If he was a bit vulnerable in this department you could give Joshua a shot at blitzing Ruiz early, but he seemed pretty strong even after the knockdown. Yeah, I reckon Joshua will try and dominate behind the jab, hoping to break Ruiz down late, or keep him honest for the 12 rounds. The weight cut is obviously for the purposes of mobility, and it's feasible that he keep it long and get a points win. Ruiz has the advantage of knowing that he can hurt Ruiz at any time, though. Can't wait! I’m also my worst enemy... Me, Myself & I Eh?
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Post by serpico on Dec 6, 2019 15:51:36 GMT
The blueprint for joshua should be Lewis' win against Tua.
Fight tall, keep it long, jab, 1-2s then get out of the pocket quickly, don't just stand in there hooking with a hooker like an idiot, keep moving.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 6, 2019 15:56:53 GMT
The blueprint for joshua should be Lewis' win against Tua. Fight tall, keep it long, jab, 1-2s then get out of the pocket quickly, don't just stand in there hooking with a hooker like an idiot, keep moving. I agree. One of Lewis's better performances, that. Tua punched like a bastard, but Lewis handled him with ease. Yeah, never hook with a hooker, as Angel Dundee used to say.
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Post by unknown182 on Dec 6, 2019 16:31:45 GMT
Joshua three stone lighter than Ruiz.
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Post by serpico on Dec 6, 2019 16:56:48 GMT
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Post by serpico on Dec 6, 2019 16:57:22 GMT
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Dec 6, 2019 19:21:02 GMT
The blueprint for joshua should be Lewis' win against Tua. Fight tall, keep it long, jab, 1-2s then get out of the pocket quickly, don't just stand in there hooking with a hooker like an idiot, keep moving. Problem is AJ ain't Lennox. One of most underrated heavies in my book
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Post by serpico on Dec 6, 2019 19:57:52 GMT
The blueprint for joshua should be Lewis' win against Tua. Fight tall, keep it long, jab, 1-2s then get out of the pocket quickly, don't just stand in there hooking with a hooker like an idiot, keep moving. Problem is AJ ain't Lennox. One of most underrated heavies in my book True, but he doesn't have to match Lennox perfectly, just follow the above as best he can, the main thing is not to plant his feet and start trading with Ruiz, if he does the same thing will happen again. He should just do the following - jab jab jab always make sure he's met with a jab when he tries to get on the inside - keep moving and stay out of range - stay out of the pocket as best you can, tie him up if he gets close - throw simple 1-2's and straight rights, step back as quick as possible, no trading hooks - stand tall and don't crouch to Ruizs level like he did in the first fight this is all predicated on Ruiz taking this fight seriously, after seeing what he weighed in at earlier people are wondering if he's maybe let the lifestyle effect him a bit ?... yes he's always been heavy but 283lbs ? thats too heavy! if it goes past the mid rounds he's surely going to tire ? if he hasn't taken it seriously then Joshua could beat him with his usual approach and just blast him out of there after 4-6 rounds. but, i know shit about boxing, AJ could lamp him first round, you can sometimes overthink these things, maybe aj will win a totally different way, thats the beauty of the sport, its unpredictable.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Dec 6, 2019 20:28:07 GMT
Problem is AJ ain't Lennox. One of most underrated heavies in my book True, but he doesn't have to match Lennox perfectly, just follow the above as best he can, the main thing is not to plant his feet and start trading with Ruiz, if he does the same thing will happen again. He should just do the following - jab jab jab always make sure he's met with a jab when he tries to get on the inside - keep moving and stay out of range - stay out of the pocket as best you can, tie him up if he gets close - throw simple 1-2's and straight rights, step back as quick as possible, no trading hooks - stand tall and don't crouch to Ruizs level like he did in the first fight this is all predicated on Ruiz taking this fight seriously, after seeing what he weighed in at earlier people are wondering if he's maybe let the lifestyle effect him a bit ?... yes he's always been heavy but 283lbs ? thats too heavy! if it goes past the mid rounds he's surely going to tire ? if he hasn't taken it seriously then Joshua could beat him with his usual approach and just blast him out of there after 4-6 rounds. but, i know shit about boxing, AJ could lamp him first round, you can sometimes overthink these things, maybe aj will win a totally different way, thats the beauty of the sport, its unpredictable. Shouldn't rule out the uppercut when he gets caught inside either
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Post by serpico on Dec 6, 2019 21:34:19 GMT
True, but he doesn't have to match Lennox perfectly, just follow the above as best he can, the main thing is not to plant his feet and start trading with Ruiz, if he does the same thing will happen again. He should just do the following - jab jab jab always make sure he's met with a jab when he tries to get on the inside - keep moving and stay out of range - stay out of the pocket as best you can, tie him up if he gets close - throw simple 1-2's and straight rights, step back as quick as possible, no trading hooks - stand tall and don't crouch to Ruizs level like he did in the first fight this is all predicated on Ruiz taking this fight seriously, after seeing what he weighed in at earlier people are wondering if he's maybe let the lifestyle effect him a bit ?... yes he's always been heavy but 283lbs ? thats too heavy! if it goes past the mid rounds he's surely going to tire ? if he hasn't taken it seriously then Joshua could beat him with his usual approach and just blast him out of there after 4-6 rounds. but, i know shit about boxing, AJ could lamp him first round, you can sometimes overthink these things, maybe aj will win a totally different way, thats the beauty of the sport, its unpredictable. Shouldn't rule out the uppercut when he gets caught inside either yes, a shot that he didn't throw once in the first match ? ... probably worried about Ruizs quick counter.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 6, 2019 23:52:39 GMT
Shouldn't rule out the uppercut when he gets caught inside either yes, a shot that he didn't throw once in the first match ? ... probably worried about Ruizs quick counter. Can leave you open to the left hook. Then again, it's risk/reward, I suppose.
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