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Post by nathstoke86 on Nov 30, 2019 21:47:59 GMT
What’s going on here ...? 2 of the best players we have and O’Neil has come in and dropper them. Can’t work out what’s going on even if they both going in jan we need them now. Clucas should be at LB until jan. needs Powell etebo m badou in cm hogan upfront id play ngoy on the rw play Edwards at rb we are doomed if we carry on with the negative 4-5-1 formation
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 30, 2019 21:50:08 GMT
Horrendous lack of preparation ie they haven’t watched the games or terrible judgment either way it’s atrocious management
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Post by citynickscfc on Nov 30, 2019 21:50:40 GMT
What’s going on here ...? 2 of the best players we have and O’Neil has come in and dropper them. Can’t work out what’s going on even if they both going in jan we need them now. Clucas should be at LB until jan. needs Powell etebo m badou in cm hogan upfront id play ngoy on the rw play Edwards at rb we are doomed if we carry on with the negative 4-5-1 formation Literally everyone wants to know the answer to this question... And the more I contemplate it, the less it makes sense. MON is either thinking they will be gone anyway so don't bother (which makes no sense as we need points by any means necessary plus it's good for the shop window effect), or he hasn't got a clue. Which is more likely? The logical explanation is just saddening
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 30, 2019 21:52:27 GMT
Horrendous lack of preparation ie they haven’t watched the games or terrible judgment either way it’s atrocious management You really are an insufferable bore! Don’t recollect you infecting this board with the same intensity after Wigan. You are the epitome of an insecure attention seeker
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Post by citynickscfc on Nov 30, 2019 21:54:52 GMT
Horrendous lack of preparation ie they haven’t watched the games or terrible judgment either way it’s atrocious management You really are an insufferable bore! Don’t recollect you infecting this board with the same intensity after Wigan. You are the epitome of an insecure attention seeker I don't understand why your having a go. He has a point?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 30, 2019 21:59:52 GMT
Horrendous lack of preparation ie they haven’t watched the games or terrible judgment either way it’s atrocious management You really are an insufferable bore! Don’t recollect you infecting this board with the same intensity after Wigan. You are the epitome of an insecure attention seeker If in his interview when asked for his plan for midfield O’Neil answered to exclude Badou and Etebo would you have given him the job .
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 30, 2019 22:00:33 GMT
Woods is scaring the shit out of me.
I know Liam is a fan and he came with a good reputation from Brentford, but I have no idea what he brings to the table, especially seeing as we have dropped both Badou and Etebo for him.
He's pretty much treading on Batth and BMI's toes after 10 minutes.
I dont necessarily mind the keep it simple approach on his passing but playing at the base of midfield you've got to offer more than that surely?
Doesnt look good in a 2 or a 3 and is another identikit footballer.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 30, 2019 22:09:15 GMT
You really are an insufferable bore! Don’t recollect you infecting this board with the same intensity after Wigan. You are the epitome of an insecure attention seeker If in his interview when asked for his plan for midfield O’Neil answered to exclude Badou and Etebo would you have given him the job . What I won’t be doing is spending my weekend spewing negativity on a message board in a juvenile attempt to attract attention You’ve being doing it for years. I’ve never blocked anyone on here but you’re a close call
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 30, 2019 23:58:27 GMT
What’s going on here ...? 2 of the best players we have and O’Neil has come in and dropper them. Can’t work out what’s going on even if they both going in jan we need them now. Clucas should be at LB until jan. needs Powell etebo m badou in cm hogan upfront id play ngoy on the rw play Edwards at rb we are doomed if we carry on with the negative 4-5-1 formation Literally everyone wants to know the answer to this question... And the more I contemplate it, the less it makes sense. MON is either thinking they will be gone anyway so don't bother (which makes no sense as we need points by any means necessary plus it's good for the shop window effect), or he hasn't got a clue. Which is more likely? The logical explanation is just saddening I think it's almost certainly the logical explanation Nick ... O'Neill hasn't got a clue what he's doing. No way have the club from the get go, instructed him on who he can and can't pick. If our new manager can't recognise who our two best players are (and by a huge margin), then it's looking pretty bleak for us going forwards, isn't it?
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Post by Gods on Dec 1, 2019 0:07:21 GMT
There's a 3rd possible explanation which is the manager may think their attitude stinks and they don't fit with his 'team' ethic.
I've no evidence of that but it seems far more likely than that he either thinks they are no good or he won't play them since they may be gone at some point in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 0:11:43 GMT
What’s going on here ...? 2 of the best players we have and O’Neil has come in and dropper them. Can’t work out what’s going on even if they both going in jan we need them now. Clucas should be at LB until jan. needs Powell etebo m badou in cm hogan upfront id play ngoy on the rw play Edwards at rb we are doomed if we carry on with the negative 4-5-1 formation It's a bit like Rowett (and Jones) coming in and refusing to play Bojan and Verlinden. As the new man, he wants to stamp his authority by ensuring no man is bigger than the club and himself, and that no player outshines the team he has in mind.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 1, 2019 0:14:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 0:17:04 GMT
Which are the exact words Rowett used when asked about Bojan in training.
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Post by Gods on Dec 1, 2019 0:42:53 GMT
Nathan blew smoke up Badou's arse too while at the same time for the most part not playing him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "That kid, for me, is a top, top player. His attitude, he said something the other day I’ve never heard a footballer say, which I won’t repeat, and I thought wow, he’s something special.’ “He’s a leader. He’s a lion in there. He goes hunting people down, he wins the ball, he comes away with it and leads his team, leads by example. "He don’t say much, but what he does, he leads and his actions say everything you need to know. "He’s been superb for me. Yeah, I understand he wants to play in the top league and I understand his reasons, but that hasn’t happened and he’s been absolutely magnificent." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If he is so good and such a great guy how come 3 managers in a row have failed to pick him on a regular basis? You have to look at what people do not what they say. They don't like his attitude and see him as disruptive is my guess, whatever they may say publicly.
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Post by neckender78 on Dec 1, 2019 1:01:40 GMT
This whole squad is pathetic. We are in serious shit, don't bang on about these pair as if they are the answer because they aren't!!! Both work hard but have no quality. We've paid a fortune for the most imbalanced, one paced gutless squad anyone could imagine. All of our own fuckin making. No one player is going to come in this team and every thing will be ok. It will take years with FFP coming in to turn this round we can only hope we scrape enough points to stay up and ride it out. Jordan Jones one of his own from Rangers on loan will be a good start a pacy winger on loan who actually runs at players at speed and first thought is to get the ball in dangerous areas.. I know it's a mad idea but give it a go hey
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 1, 2019 1:03:34 GMT
We need them both on the pitch to survive!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 1, 2019 2:43:32 GMT
Nathan blew smoke up Badou's arse too while at the same time for the most part not playing him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "That kid, for me, is a top, top player. His attitude, he said something the other day I’ve never heard a footballer say, which I won’t repeat, and I thought wow, he’s something special.’ “He’s a leader. He’s a lion in there. He goes hunting people down, he wins the ball, he comes away with it and leads his team, leads by example. "He don’t say much, but what he does, he leads and his actions say everything you need to know. "He’s been superb for me. Yeah, I understand he wants to play in the top league and I understand his reasons, but that hasn’t happened and he’s been absolutely magnificent." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If he is so good and such a great guy how come 3 managers in a row have failed to pick him on a regular basis? You have to look at what people do not what they say. They don't like his attitude and see him as disruptive is my guess, whatever they may say publicly. So what you're saying, is that O'Neill is already lying to the fans, then? And by the way, Jones was playing him ...
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Post by Gods on Dec 1, 2019 8:20:21 GMT
Nathan blew smoke up Badou's arse too while at the same time for the most part not playing him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "That kid, for me, is a top, top player. His attitude, he said something the other day I’ve never heard a footballer say, which I won’t repeat, and I thought wow, he’s something special.’ “He’s a leader. He’s a lion in there. He goes hunting people down, he wins the ball, he comes away with it and leads his team, leads by example. "He don’t say much, but what he does, he leads and his actions say everything you need to know. "He’s been superb for me. Yeah, I understand he wants to play in the top league and I understand his reasons, but that hasn’t happened and he’s been absolutely magnificent." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If he is so good and such a great guy how come 3 managers in a row have failed to pick him on a regular basis? You have to look at what people do not what they say. They don't like his attitude and see him as disruptive is my guess, whatever they may say publicly. So what you're saying, is that O'Neill is already lying to the fans, then? And by the way, Jones was playing him ... Or O'Neill saw something to change his mind. I may be wrong about Jones not playing but he has been on our books since our Prem days and only got on the pitch 26 times under 4 managers.
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Post by nathstoke86 on Dec 1, 2019 8:21:28 GMT
You build a team around the best players you have and for me then 2 are the best we have I’d like see a formation of 4-2-3-1 with Allen and clucas sitting and etebo badou Powell n hogan up top that be my choice
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 1, 2019 8:22:31 GMT
To the stats people telling me Etebo offers nothing, we're doing great without him aren't we? We're a fucking walkover in that midfield currently.
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Post by potterfox1011 on Dec 1, 2019 8:28:26 GMT
You build a team around the best players you have and for me then 2 are the best we have I’d like see a formation of 4-2-3-1 with Allen and clucas sitting and etebo badou Powell n hogan up top that be my choice
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Post by christhepotter on Dec 1, 2019 8:32:07 GMT
Hasn’t Etebo been given leave since his wife just gave birth ?
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Post by potterfox1011 on Dec 1, 2019 8:32:14 GMT
You build a team around the best players you have and for me then 2 are the best we have I’d like see a formation of 4-2-3-1 with Allen and clucas sitting and etebo badou Powell n hogan up top that be my choice powell etebo and badou would be good,powell looks like a intelligellent playerbut allen ,hes been running round like a dog with a balloon for years doing nothing get rid.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 1, 2019 8:34:33 GMT
Nathan blew smoke up Badou's arse too while at the same time for the most part not playing him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "That kid, for me, is a top, top player. His attitude, he said something the other day I’ve never heard a footballer say, which I won’t repeat, and I thought wow, he’s something special.’ “He’s a leader. He’s a lion in there. He goes hunting people down, he wins the ball, he comes away with it and leads his team, leads by example. "He don’t say much, but what he does, he leads and his actions say everything you need to know. "He’s been superb for me. Yeah, I understand he wants to play in the top league and I understand his reasons, but that hasn’t happened and he’s been absolutely magnificent." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If he is so good and such a great guy how come 3 managers in a row have failed to pick him on a regular basis? You have to look at what people do not what they say. They don't like his attitude and see him as disruptive is my guess, whatever they may say publicly. So why did Jones play him in the end then? It would’ve been the easiest thing in the world for him to stay in the bomb squad? Do we think Jones was happy with Woods’ attitude given his dramatic fall from grace?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 1, 2019 8:35:26 GMT
Hasn’t Etebo been given leave since his wife just gave birth ? He was on the bench on Tuesday and drove away yesterday telling everyone he was fit.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 1, 2019 8:36:08 GMT
Literally everyone wants to know the answer to this question... And the more I contemplate it, the less it makes sense. MON is either thinking they will be gone anyway so don't bother (which makes no sense as we need points by any means necessary plus it's good for the shop window effect), or he hasn't got a clue. Which is more likely? The logical explanation is just saddening I think it's almost certainly the logical explanation Nick ... O'Neill hasn't got a clue what he's doing. No way have the club from the get go, instructed him on who he can and can't pick. If our new manager can't recognise who our two best players are (and by a huge margin), then it's looking pretty bleak for us going forwards, isn't it? I bloody hope it’s not that scenario.
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Post by shrewspotter on Dec 1, 2019 8:36:37 GMT
I guess some of the problem is that Badou will most likely be off in January, I’m not sure Etebo will be though
However I think both two need playing. If we are to play a 4-3-3 then I’d go with Badou, Etebo and Clucas
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 1, 2019 8:37:00 GMT
Hasn’t Etebo been given leave since his wife just gave birth ? He was on the bench on Tuesday and drove away yesterday telling everyone he was fit. If that’s true then it is seriously worrying....
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Post by wuzza on Dec 1, 2019 8:46:49 GMT
Its impossible to look beyond the obvious conclusion that they have been pre-sold. Probably to clubs in this country so we can get cold hard cash rather than the usual nonsense loan deals with Turkish clubs. ONeill probably doesn’t want to start all over again in Jan having to rebuild a side with what is left over so he’s trying to establish the remnants of our midfield resources now. At least his eyes will be opened to their limitations. Jan is not going to be the saviour that some imagine - in fact it could drive the nail even deeper into our coffin.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 1, 2019 8:49:06 GMT
Its impossible to look beyond the obvious conclusion that they have been pre-sold. Probably to clubs in this country so we can get cold hard cash rather than the usual nonsense loan deals with Turkish clubs. ONeill probably doesn’t want to start all over again in Jan having to rebuild a side with what is left over so he’s trying to establish the remnants of our midfield resources now. At least his eyes will be opened to their limitations. Jan is not going to be the saviour that some imagine - in fact it could drive the nail even deeper into our coffin. Badou started on Tuesday night though Wuzza?
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