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Post by royalewithcheese on Nov 30, 2019 17:02:58 GMT
Why the fuck does he refuse to play our best player?
The genuinely one good player who could easily play at a higher level.
Will somebody please just ask him that question straight.
And why the fuck play the useless Vokes? He offers absolutely nothing.
And selecting Ince again.
We got what we deserved today.
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Post by steewee on Nov 30, 2019 17:03:58 GMT
Makes you wonder whether contractual obligations have got a part to play in this! Stupidity!!!!
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Post by sportsman on Nov 30, 2019 17:04:02 GMT
No mention of indi? One of the worst players ever to play for stoke?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 30, 2019 17:05:24 GMT
Yep.
MON takes as much blame as the players.
Bewildering team selection.
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Post by serpico on Nov 30, 2019 17:06:57 GMT
Should always be playing 2 up front at home, disappointing to see vokes as the lone striker.
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Post by zerps on Nov 30, 2019 17:07:23 GMT
MON OUT FFS
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Post by citynickscfc on Nov 30, 2019 17:08:07 GMT
I couldn't watch the game but when I found out the selection I knew we were doomed. Why oh why is he picking this crap line up? Sorry but this is on him, we know who the shit players are already
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Post by franklin66 on Nov 30, 2019 17:12:52 GMT
All I'll say is this the "good" players have fucked us is a man to persevere playing them regardless.....
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Post by wrexhamstokie90 on Nov 30, 2019 17:13:53 GMT
Should always be playing 2 up front at home, disappointing to see vokes as the lone striker. Was vokes on today?????
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Post by zerps on Nov 30, 2019 17:17:12 GMT
All I'll say is this the "good" players have fucked us is a man to persevere playing them regardless..... I’ve read that three times and it’s hurting my head
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 30, 2019 17:18:03 GMT
He went for the shite deluxe side rather than the simply shite one.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Nov 30, 2019 17:19:27 GMT
Shit talent pool. ..
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Post by FrankButcher on Nov 30, 2019 17:22:23 GMT
His game plan from the start was completely wrong playing a 4-5-1 at home and sitting deep that's definitely not playing on the front foot need to start playing a direct 4-4-2 and high press teams at home I don't think possession football suits this squad.
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Post by franklin66 on Nov 30, 2019 17:22:39 GMT
All I'll say is this the "good" players have fucked us is a man to persevere playing them regardless..... I’ve read that three times and it’s hurting my head Sorry I'll spell it out: The whole squad are shit regardless of who plays. They are not very good at football and have suspect character.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 30, 2019 17:24:18 GMT
His game plan from the start was completely wrong playing a 4-5-1 at home and sitting deep that's definitely not playing on the front foot need to start playing a direct 4-4-2 and high press teams at home I don't think possession football suits this squad. Cardiff should have emphasised that enough. We’re so ponderous and uncreative with the ball.
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Post by march4 on Nov 30, 2019 17:26:41 GMT
Yet another manager completely, utterly and totally out of his depth.
And the worst thing about it is that anyone with an iota of common sense knew he would be.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 17:29:02 GMT
Yet another manager completely, utterly and totally out of his depth. And the worst thing about it is that anyone with an iota of common sense knew he would be. And here he is
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Post by ohbottom on Nov 30, 2019 17:30:03 GMT
No mention of indi? One of the worst players ever to play for stoke? The thing is, he's played for the Dutch national team over 30 times so he cannot be that bad can he? Last played at that level in 2016 (when he got sent off). Coincidentally, 2016 is the year he first came to Stoke. Maybe it's us that's the problem?
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Post by dannymadeley30 on Nov 30, 2019 17:31:31 GMT
The bubble has burst for O'Neill - 2 wins against very poor teams have been followed by 2 deserved losses against mid table sides.
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Post by ohbottom on Nov 30, 2019 17:32:08 GMT
His game plan from the start was completely wrong playing a 4-5-1 at home and sitting deep that's definitely not playing on the front foot need to start playing a direct 4-4-2 and high press teams at home I don't think possession football suits this squad. Cardiff should have emphasised that enough. We’re so ponderous and uncreative with the ball. This is true. I assume MON had spotted this which is why he played Vokes and had us just lumping it forward in true Pulis style.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 17:33:17 GMT
I thought Edwards was the problem according to most of you lot...
MON got it very very wrong today.
Woods was his worst mistake of the lot though, I'll whinge about him once my fingers have unfrozen!
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 30, 2019 17:33:20 GMT
Cardiff should have emphasised that enough. We’re so ponderous and uncreative with the ball. This is true. I assume MON had spotted this which is why he played Vokes and had us just lumping it forward in true Pulis style. Really not sure why you’d commit just the one guy to it though. Overly negative.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 17:33:34 GMT
NEXT! 😆
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Nov 30, 2019 17:37:03 GMT
I have been impressed by O’Neill generally and while it might not have been my choice the starting line-up at least had some pattern. I was disappointed with the manager at the end because he just threw players on at random and hoped for a break. Not the way to go, worrying for me and generally I am not the average throat slitting supporter.
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Post by smallthorner on Nov 30, 2019 17:38:06 GMT
Team for next match. No ifs or buts.
In 4231
Federici Edwards Batth BMI Clucas
Badou Etebo
Duffy Powell McClean
Diouf
Sort it Michael
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Post by zerps on Nov 30, 2019 17:38:49 GMT
I’ve read that three times and it’s hurting my head Sorry I'll spell it out: The whole squad are shit regardless of who plays. They are not very good at football and have suspect character. Completely agree 👍
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Post by ohbottom on Nov 30, 2019 17:40:45 GMT
This is true. I assume MON had spotted this which is why he played Vokes and had us just lumping it forward in true Pulis style. Really not sure why you’d commit just the one guy to it though. Overly negative. I agree. There's also the crossing thing. You'd think Vokes should thrive off decent crosses, sadly we seem unable to supply any. According to HT stats I saw, we attempted 18 crosses in the first half without manufacturing a chance worthy of the name from any of them.
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Post by Waggy on Nov 30, 2019 17:41:23 GMT
Really not sure why you’d commit just the one guy to it though. Overly negative. I agree. There's also the crossing thing. You'd think Vokes should thrive off decent crosses, sadly we seem unable to supply any. According to HT stats I saw, we attempted 18 crosses in the first half without manufacturing a chance worthy of the name from any of them. Every cross was shite
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Post by ohbottom on Nov 30, 2019 17:43:06 GMT
I agree. There's also the crossing thing. You'd think Vokes should thrive off decent crosses, sadly we seem unable to supply any. According to HT stats I saw, we attempted 18 crosses in the first half without manufacturing a chance worthy of the name from any of them. Every cross was shite Well deduced that man!
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Post by sportsman on Nov 30, 2019 17:46:45 GMT
No mention of indi? One of the worst players ever to play for stoke? The thing is, he's played for the Dutch national team over 30 times so he cannot be that bad can he? Last played at that level in 2016 (when he got sent off). Coincidentally, 2016 is the year he first came to Stoke. Maybe it's us that's the problem? Can't be that bad? He's as bad a centre back as I've seen down stoke. I watched him closely all game. Constantly given simple passes away. And that second goal! I'd seriously have wimmer back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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