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Post by mrcoke on Nov 27, 2019 23:24:57 GMT
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Post by Gods on Nov 27, 2019 23:36:49 GMT
Love the Sentinel picture of Tony Allen with a back drop of the Boothen Stand and a full Stoke End at the old Victoria Ground.
A large, crowded, open terrace is one of the most evocative sights in football for me.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Nov 28, 2019 0:55:29 GMT
Love the Sentinel picture of Tony Allen with a back drop of the Boothen Stand and a full Stoke End at the old Victoria Ground. A large, crowded, open terrace is one of the most evocative sights in football for me. There are some corkers of Sir Stan in front of an absolutely heaving Stoke End too,they are just so intoxicatingly redolent of matchday they make you nostalgic for something you didn't experience in the first instance.... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 15:36:21 GMT
I'm pretty sure my first game included Tony in the team. Started off going in the old Stoke end. I used to stand just behind the goal, a few rows back. Drew 1-1 with Everton. My memory is not that good these days, but I'm not sure if that was my first game, but is one I can remember. Setters was in the team for many of my first games, and remember one when I stood in one of the paddock's, when Maurice was head to toe covered in mud. Always remember him heading the ball, and it appeared his neck was like a spring. Also what was the newest of the stands, I used to get in for a pound! Happy days for me, remembered with great fondness! Tony Allen was a favourite of mine at the time. Was Bill Bentley in the team around those years too? Alex Elder or Alec was it? Jimmy McIlroy, Roy Vernon etc. A young Denis Smith?
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Post by thestatusquo on Nov 28, 2019 16:04:11 GMT
Has he still got his boots?
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Post by loosestools on Nov 28, 2019 16:39:02 GMT
I thought he played No 6 - or has my memory faded?
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 28, 2019 16:53:13 GMT
He was a very fine player, not just as a defender, he could play a bit, very cultured, should have played more for England at peak.
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Post by AlliG on Nov 28, 2019 17:38:13 GMT
I thought he played No 6 - or has my memory faded? He started off as a left back but moved inside as he got "more mature"  |
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Post by zerps on Nov 28, 2019 18:00:57 GMT
Is he match fit?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 18:03:18 GMT
I'm pretty sure my first game included Tony in the team. Started off going in the old Stoke end. I used to stand just behind the goal, a few rows back. Drew 1-1 with Everton. My memory is not that good these days, but I'm not sure if that was my first game, but is one I can remember. Setters was in the team for many of my first games, and remember one when I stood in one of the paddock's, when Maurice was head to toe covered in mud. Always remember him heading the ball, and it appeared his neck was like a spring. Also what was the newest of the stands, I used to get in for a pound! Happy days for me, remembered with great fondness! Tony Allen was a favourite of mine at the time. Was Bill Bentley in the team around those years too? Alex Elder or Alec was it? Jimmy McIlroy, Roy Vernon etc. A young Denis Smith? I'm surprised it was that much. |
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 28, 2019 19:27:10 GMT
I'm pretty sure my first game included Tony in the team. Started off going in the old Stoke end. I used to stand just behind the goal, a few rows back. Drew 1-1 with Everton. My memory is not that good these days, but I'm not sure if that was my first game, but is one I can remember. Setters was in the team for many of my first games, and remember one when I stood in one of the paddock's, when Maurice was head to toe covered in mud. Always remember him heading the ball, and it appeared his neck was like a spring. Also what was the newest of the stands, I used to get in for a pound! Happy days for me, remembered with great fondness! Tony Allen was a favourite of mine at the time. Was Bill Bentley in the team around those years too? Alex Elder or Alec was it? Jimmy McIlroy, Roy Vernon etc. A young Denis Smith? I'm surprised it was that much. A few shillings as I recall unless you sat in the stand, where is was still less than a pound. |
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Post by leicspotter on Nov 28, 2019 19:39:44 GMT
Happy Birthday Mr Allen
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Post by nott1 on Nov 28, 2019 20:21:01 GMT
I thought he played No 6 - or has my memory faded? Always a LB. He was an acquaintance of mine as a teenager, and then owned the Blythe Bridge Newsagents I used. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 20:30:35 GMT
I'm surprised it was that much. A few shillings as I recall unless you sat in the stand, where is was still less than a pound. That's my recollection. I remember my late FIL saying half a crown was about what he paid (although when he started going, pre war, a few pence would have covered it I would have thought). I reckon ten bob max when I started going - and that would get you into the posh seats. I only sat in the Boothen stand once - Mr Birks gave us (may un mar lady) some tickets in the Supporters Club. I can't remember what position "Mr Birks" held at the club, but he was always smartly dressed (suit and tie) whenever I saw him in the Club. He always had a few tickets to give away. Of course the next time you saw him (after receiving the tickets) you bought him a pint.
I'm not leveling any criticism at robo51 at all, just suggesting that £1 seemed a high price to pay back in those days.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 28, 2019 20:44:18 GMT
A few shillings as I recall unless you sat in the stand, where is was still less than a pound. That's my recollection. I remember my late FIL saying half a crown was about what he paid (although when he started going, pre war, a few pence would have covered it I would have thought). I reckon ten bob max when I started going - and that would get you into the posh seats. I only sat in the Boothen stand once - Mr Birks gave us (may un mar lady) some tickets in the Supporters Club. I can't remember what position "Mr Birks" held at the club, but he was always smartly dressed (suit and tie) whenever I saw him in the Club. He always had a few tickets to give away. Of course the next time you saw him (after receiving the tickets) you bought him a pint.
I'm not leveling any criticism at the OP at all, just suggesting that £1 seemed a high price to pay back in those days.
Snap, I only sat in the Boothen stand once. I can't remember who we were playing, but we lost because John Farmer missed a cross from the right wing that went over his head/reach into the net. I think I paid 14 or 16 shillings something like that. When I started going in the mid 60 s I went in the Boothen paddock but soon joined the Boothen End from 66 about 10 yards in front of Zigger Zagger. Today's court case relating to Hillsborough reminds me of some of the crushes behind the Boothen End, you could pick your feet up off the ground and get carried along by the mob. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 21:23:02 GMT
That's my recollection. I remember my late FIL saying half a crown was about what he paid (although when he started going, pre war, a few pence would have covered it I would have thought). I reckon ten bob max when I started going - and that would get you into the posh seats. I only sat in the Boothen stand once - Mr Birks gave us (may un mar lady) some tickets in the Supporters Club. I can't remember what position "Mr Birks" held at the club, but he was always smartly dressed (suit and tie) whenever I saw him in the Club. He always had a few tickets to give away. Of course the next time you saw him (after receiving the tickets) you bought him a pint.
I'm not leveling any criticism at the OP at all, just suggesting that £1 seemed a high price to pay back in those days.
Snap, I only sat in the Boothen stand once. I can't remember who we were playing, but we lost because John Farmer missed a cross from the right wing that went over his head/reach into the net. I think I paid 14 or 16 shillings something like that. When I started going in the mid 60 s I went in the Boothen paddock but soon joined the Boothen End from 66 about 10 yards in front of Zigger Zagger. Today's court case relating to Hillsborough reminds me of some of the crushes behind the Boothen End, you could pick your feet up off the ground and get carried along by the mob. We have the same memories. They call em "mentals" these days - but you did indeed get swept along on the wave. Once things calmed down, you looked around you to establish exactly where you were, and then resumed your original position. The funny thing was that everyone (within a half a foot or so) stood in the exact same spot every game. You stood next to the same people - a bit like being seated I suppose. You knew where everyone was - I could look over my shoulder and give my Uncle Arthur a little wave - he always stood about twenty yards behind me. Ii could look forwards and slightly to my right, and there would be a couple of blokes that I worked with.
As you looked towards the Stoke end, I was "left side", about three quarters the way up. Great view of the game, and handy for getting out. I never once left early  That is true actually.
Having "got out", a couple of pints in the club where Shilton, Conroy and a few other players would come in for a pint.
Then back home for dinner (often meat and tata pie, homemade), and then back later for bingo, open mike, and a good night out ...
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Post by johnnypotter on Nov 28, 2019 21:34:16 GMT
Tony Allen is on a framed team photo on my wall, he is standing in front of Denis Smith and behind a seated Terry Conroy. This team photo was taken just prior to the beginning of the 1970-71 season. Underneath, where it lists the players names it says Tony Allen [ now Bury].
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Post by kustokie on Nov 28, 2019 21:56:37 GMT
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Post by woodstein on Nov 28, 2019 22:42:14 GMT
Bet he still has that blond hair!
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 28, 2019 23:02:56 GMT
I thought he played No 6 - or has my memory faded? Always a LB. He was an acquaintance of mine as a teenager, and then owned the Blythe Bridge Newsagents I used. I think he got moved to Centre back at the end of his Stoke career before he left. |
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Post by sunburyray on Nov 29, 2019 1:26:04 GMT
I played with his brother for Fegg Hayes when we won the S-o-T Youth championship in 1963. He said he hardly ever saw him as he was never home. He was great player though among many of that era that Stoke produced.
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Post by maine on Nov 29, 2019 1:29:42 GMT
My dad took me to get our first season ticket for the Butler St stand.
Our options (price?) were for either end. We would get a close view of our right back and left winger (Bill Asprey and Don Ratcliffe) or left back and right winger, Stan and Tony. Due respect to Bill and Don, but it wasn't a difficult choice.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 30, 2019 6:41:41 GMT
Love the Sentinel picture of Tony Allen with a back drop of the Boothen Stand and a full Stoke End at the old Victoria Ground. A large, crowded, open terrace is one of the most evocative sights in football for me. Agreed. I remember going in the Stoke End with my dad in the mid 70's. Sure I used to sit on a barrier (or is my mind playing tricks?). I was a nipper, then! 😁 Used to love Saturdays. Watching the great 70's side, and my hero Jimmy Greenhoff in the afternoon, then listening to the results on my radio on the bus home. Sometimes a chippy dinner. Nice! Then Kay Alexander reading the news and later Porridge, Dad's Army and/or The Likely Lads on TV. It's been downhill ever since! 😁 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 8:01:38 GMT
Love the Sentinel picture of Tony Allen with a back drop of the Boothen Stand and a full Stoke End at the old Victoria Ground. A large, crowded, open terrace is one of the most evocative sights in football for me. Agreed. I remember going in the Stoke End with my dad in the mid 70's. Sure I used to sit on a barrier (or is my mind playing tricks?). I was a nipper, then! 😁 Used to love Saturdays. Watching the great 70's side, and my hero Jimmy Greenhoff in the afternoon, then listening to the results on my radio on the bus home. Sometimes a chippy dinner. Nice! Then Kay Alexander reading the news and later Porridge, Dad's Army and/or The Likely Lads on TV. It's been downhill ever since! 😁 Happy days Tricky ! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 9:38:15 GMT
Still think it was the old pound, but whatever, it was well worth it. I've said before, I used to get the train from Bank Quay station in Warrington and change at Crewe..
The first game I didn't even know where the ground was, so followed the fans. Remember those bloody big police horses. Fantastic beasts. P.S Maybe I handed a pound over and got some change! Happy days for me. Also seem to remember, I didn't get home till around half past seven.
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Post by swampySCFC on Dec 1, 2019 16:54:38 GMT
Tony was our number 4 when dad first took me to Stoke. He always thought he was a cultured player and remember he was affronted when someone spat at Tony on the pitch. Might have been Osgood
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 21:53:14 GMT
It was Crerand at Old Trafford. Glonder we used to call it. Dirty, horrible, despicable thing to do. Hated him forever afterwards! Hateful tw-t!
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That is true actually.
