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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 31, 2021 14:40:16 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/match-reports/stoke-city-wolves-live-stream-5725453A good test in your final friendly of the summer?O'Neill: It was, very. It was a tough game against a very, very good side. We knew it would be. They demonstrated that in terms of their quality on the ball. The important thing is that you don't lose a game like that. We showed a lot of good qualities ourselves today, particularly when we were out of possession. We would have liked at times have had more possession and been a little better in possession. We turned the ball over a little bit too often for my liking. That is down to our own failings at times and other times it's down to the quality of the opposition. We saw a lot of good signs about what we have in the dressing room at this minute in time. Mario Vrancic's set piece delivery is an added bonus?MON: He's got great delivery and he works very hard on it. He's always working after training. It was a factor in why we brought him here but he's a very good player in general play as well. Certainly his delivery was excellent today. Is a back three Plan A?MON: We don't have that much flexibility at the minute. A three at the back allows us to play two strikers. We're actively trying to add to that as well. I think it suits the shape of midfield and the players we have in full-back areas at this minute in time. We've worked hard on it in pre-season. The Wigan game was different and it was probably a game we didn't need in terms of personnel and the numbers that we have. We've got to be flexible. We were flexible last season with our system. Three at the back is suited us in pre-season. Are you happy with how pre-season has gone?MON: We would like to have additional players in the squad but the players we would like to add are not available at this minute in time. When I say that, I mean in terms of the option to possibly come on loan or even sometimes in the case of coming permanently. We have to be patient in that regard. We want to add that extra bit of quality that can really give us that edge and push us to the right end of the league. Hence that's why we've been resistent to the temptation to sign a lot of players who are available who we felt, while they were good players, they wouldn't necessarily improve what we have in the building. Other than maybe not having the squad together as we would like it, it's been a very good pre-season. We've lost one game, when we toyed about with the team, and we've got through it really without any injuries, which has been a big plus. Players who have missed chunks of last season, Morgan Fox, James Chester are coming back, Tyrese is back training with the fitness team at this minute in time. All those longer term injuries that we had to deal with last season, we can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 31, 2021 14:45:15 GMT
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Post by Silkystoke on Jul 31, 2021 14:47:40 GMT
Same shit different manager...!!!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 31, 2021 15:09:05 GMT
Same shit different manager...!!! I can't recall any of our other managers providing an update on Souttar's availability and fitness after an Olympic games! Correct me if I am wrong!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 31, 2021 15:56:31 GMT
No mention of Dougherty and it seems he’s not good enough or fit enough or both to keep Tymon out of the first eleven
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Post by theonlooker on Jul 31, 2021 16:00:16 GMT
No mention of Dougherty and it seems he’s not good enough or fit enough or both to keep Tymon out of the first eleven He's plenty good enough. I'd say they are monitoring his fitness as he recovers from a longer term injury whilst trying to not over stretch him. The same will apply to Campbell, who will have to be eased back in over the course of the season.
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Post by baystokie on Jul 31, 2021 16:02:35 GMT
No mention of Dougherty and it seems he’s not good enough or fit enough or both to keep Tymon out of the first eleven ....... or it seems that MON knows all he needs to know about Doughty, he's fit and good enough but MON wanted to see how Tymon coped with tougher opposition? Depends on your agenda or your preferred spin on a situation about which you know nowt?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 31, 2021 16:46:09 GMT
No mention of Dougherty and it seems he’s not good enough or fit enough or both to keep Tymon out of the first eleven ....... or it seems that MON knows all he needs to know about Doughty, he's fit and good enough but MON wanted to see how Tymon coped with tougher opposition? Depends on your agenda or your preferred spin on a situation about which you know nowt? I can see though abs he’s starting to worry me He had chances today to use that supposed pace and chose not to I think he’s Miles off turning on the after burners
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Post by Silkystoke on Jul 31, 2021 18:57:30 GMT
Same shit different manager...!!! I can't recall any of our other managers providing an update on Souttar's availability and fitness after an Olympic games! Correct me if I am wrong! Referring to the game , pre season and he’s happy with life atm..
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 31, 2021 19:19:20 GMT
I can't recall any of our other managers providing an update on Souttar's availability and fitness after an Olympic games! Correct me if I am wrong! Referring to the game , pre season and he’s happy with life atm.. Would you have preferred him to start sobbing uncontrollably about him not being able to get a few of his targets in yet?
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Post by lordb on Jul 31, 2021 19:53:15 GMT
No mention of Dougherty and it seems he’s not good enough or fit enough or both to keep Tymon out of the first eleven Doughty is miles better Absolutely no way is Tymon ahead of him in the pecking order Has to be a fitness issue
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 31, 2021 21:19:51 GMT
Doughty although not particularly involved when coming on, still looked 10 times better than Tymon. Shored up the left hand side.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 31, 2021 21:45:43 GMT
Doughty although not particularly involved when coming on, still looked 10 times better than Tymon. Shored up the left hand side. 100% agree but the question is around his Fitnes before anyone can see how good or otherwise he is
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Post by Davef on Jul 31, 2021 22:10:26 GMT
Doughty although not particularly involved when coming on, still looked 10 times better than Tymon. Shored up the left hand side. 100% agree but the question is around his Fitnes before anyone can see how good or otherwise he is You're not imparting any great wisdom here. He hasn't played a competitive game since 24th October last year, it's pretty obvious that he will need to build up his match fitness.
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Post by Gods on Jul 31, 2021 22:20:44 GMT
Doughty has taken some part in exactly 36 adult pro football games in his entire life, most of them in the 3rd flight of English football.
I would imagine MON has no idea at all whether he is good enough or not at this point in time.
I can see him having to try to bat his way in off the bench, certainly not an automatic starter.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 31, 2021 22:54:41 GMT
Doughty has taken some part in exactly 36 adult pro football games in his entire life, most of them in the 3rd flight of English football. I would imagine MON has no idea at all whether he is good enough or not at this point in time. I can see him having to try to bat his way in off the bench, certainly not an automatic starter. Well if that's the case we need to be extremely worried because Tymon isn't anywhere near the standard required, not even as cover.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 31, 2021 23:13:02 GMT
100% agree but the question is around his Fitnes before anyone can see how good or otherwise he is You're not imparting any great wisdom here. He hasn't played a competitive game since 24th October last year, it's pretty obvious that he will need to build up his match fitness. Not by playing 10 mins in ore season friendless he wont and that’s common sense not great wisdom
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Post by independent on Jul 31, 2021 23:27:27 GMT
I understand everybody's impatience but I still find it ridiculous that everyone seems to think that the manager (whoever he happens to be ) should possess a magic wand that will transform everything instantly. I would love to hear people's suggestions as to who would definitely guarantee instant promotion while playing beautiful flowing football with the players available to us at the moment.
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Post by yyy on Aug 1, 2021 0:35:45 GMT
I understand everybody's impatience but I still find it ridiculous that everyone seems to think that the manager (whoever he happens to be ) should possess a magic wand that will transform everything instantly. I would love to hear people's suggestions as to who would definitely guarantee instant promotion while playing beautiful flowing football with the players available to us at the moment. I'd take crap football for promotion, though to be as bored as last season for a mid table finish isn't worth paying to watch on a regular basis, I suspect I'm not alone, you want to be entertained at the football, not endure it and the pub before and after being the highlight of the day. It isn't like we've been poor for a season or two, we're talking years now
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Post by miltonstokienew on Aug 1, 2021 0:39:25 GMT
I understand everybody's impatience but I still find it ridiculous that everyone seems to think that the manager (whoever he happens to be ) should possess a magic wand that will transform everything instantly. I would love to hear people's suggestions as to who would definitely guarantee instant promotion while playing beautiful flowing football with the players available to us at the moment. I'd take crap football for promotion, though to be as bored as last season for a mid table finish isn't worth paying to watch on a regular basis, I suspect I'm not alone, you want to be entertained at the football, not endure it and the pub before and after being the highlight of the day Don't go then. Spend your valuable time on a message board instead
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Post by yyy on Aug 1, 2021 0:41:59 GMT
I'd take crap football for promotion, though to be as bored as last season for a mid table finish isn't worth paying to watch on a regular basis, I suspect I'm not alone, you want to be entertained at the football, not endure it and the pub before and after being the highlight of the day Don't go then. Spend your valuable time on a message board instead I've never gone every week, I've always picked my games. I can't have a season ticket due to other commitments so it becomes an expensive do buying single tickets, especially if it's dull football
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Post by miltonstokienew on Aug 1, 2021 0:47:28 GMT
Don't go then. Spend your valuable time on a message board instead I've never gone every week, I've always picked my games. I can't have a season ticket due to other commitments so it becomes an expensive do buying single tickets, especially if it's dull football Fair enough, just go when we're winning then and playing good football
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Post by yyy on Aug 1, 2021 0:52:17 GMT
I've never gone every week, I've always picked my games. I can't have a season ticket due to other commitments so it becomes an expensive do buying single tickets, especially if it's dull football Fair enough, just go when we're winning then and playing good football I'll see how much of the Collins fee we spend first and how much intent we show to go for promotion. I'm expecting a few late smash and grabs
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 1, 2021 9:54:24 GMT
Doughty has taken some part in exactly 36 adult pro football games in his entire life, most of them in the 3rd flight of English football. I would imagine MON has no idea at all whether he is good enough or not at this point in time. I can see him having to try to bat his way in off the bench, certainly not an automatic starter. Very sobering add that to Campbell not until December. And May be not firing all season and a manger saying The only thing about pre season is we haven’t got the squad sorted it’s looking pretty grim some early set backs and the rhythm form the second half of last season is re-established and the we’ve done noting in tens fo pace Power or leadership to assess that .
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Post by nonameface on Aug 1, 2021 9:57:43 GMT
Doughty has taken some part in exactly 36 adult pro football games in his entire life, most of them in the 3rd flight of English football. I would imagine MON has no idea at all whether he is good enough or not at this point in time. I can see him having to try to bat his way in off the bench, certainly not an automatic starter. Very sobering add that to Campbell not until December. And May be not firing all season and a manger saying The only thing about pre season is we haven’t got the squad sorted it’s looking pretty grim some early set backs and the rhythm form the second half of last season is re-established and the we’ve done noting in tens fo pace Power or leadership to assess that . painful
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Post by samwidge on Aug 1, 2021 10:32:10 GMT
Doughty has taken some part in exactly 36 adult pro football games in his entire life, most of them in the 3rd flight of English football. I would imagine MON has no idea at all whether he is good enough or not at this point in time. I can see him having to try to bat his way in off the bench, certainly not an automatic starter. Very sobering add that to Campbell not until December. And May be not firing all season and a manger saying The only thing about pre season is we haven’t got the squad sorted it’s looking pretty grim some early set backs and the rhythm form the second half of last season is re-established and the we’ve done noting in tens fo pace Power or leadership to assess that . Please go away
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 2, 2021 6:55:18 GMT
Fair enough, just go when we're winning then and playing good football I'll see how much of the Collins fee we spend first and how much intent we show to go for promotion. I'm expecting a few late smash and grabs I think most of the Collins money has gone paying off the bomb squad.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 2, 2021 8:48:12 GMT
Doughty has taken some part in exactly 36 adult pro football games in his entire life, most of them in the 3rd flight of English football. I would imagine MON has no idea at all whether he is good enough or not at this point in time. I can see him having to try to bat his way in off the bench, certainly not an automatic starter. Most of them were in the Championship. I tell you that every time you try to peddle this and you seem determined to ignore it? Who do you see playing LWB if not him, out of interest?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 8:59:06 GMT
Doughty has taken some part in exactly 36 adult pro football games in his entire life, most of them in the 3rd flight of English football. I would imagine MON has no idea at all whether he is good enough or not at this point in time. I can see him having to try to bat his way in off the bench, certainly not an automatic starter. ?
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Post by Gods on Aug 2, 2021 9:08:36 GMT
Doughty has taken some part in exactly 36 adult pro football games in his entire life, most of them in the 3rd flight of English football. I would imagine MON has no idea at all whether he is good enough or not at this point in time. I can see him having to try to bat his way in off the bench, certainly not an automatic starter. Most of them were in the Championship. I tell you that every time you try to peddle this and you seem determined to ignore it? Who do you see playing LWB if not him, out of interest? That's true, looks like he has 29 appearances in the Championship and 7 in league 1. It doesn't answer your question but I would not play wing backs! Do you think this one will work out? I'm in the not convinced camp but I generally am!
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