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Post by londonstokie17 on Nov 9, 2019 17:02:03 GMT
Great to see us win, score not even 3 but 4 goals...!
But and its a big but... what do we do about LB?
In my opinion Ward is atrocious and was notably worse than everyone else out there today, so slow and can't create anything. Better sides will target him and finish us.
Clucas has a blinder at the tip of the 3 - should we really put him there given he keeps finding the net and is our top scorer.
Bruno is probably needed at CB so that we don't need to see Lindsay ever again.
Jimmy Mac was the best player on the pitch today like him loathe him, poppy or no poppy.
so what the fuck do we do?
MON red and white army!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 9, 2019 17:02:59 GMT
Can we bring Tymon back in January? I mean, he can't be worse than fucking Ward.
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Post by londonstokie17 on Nov 9, 2019 17:03:31 GMT
Can we bring Tymon back in January? I mean, he can't be worse than fucking Ward. I'm not opposed to it, i don't watch our academy but surely theres someone at least mobile there...
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Post by Goonie on Nov 9, 2019 17:04:44 GMT
Can we bring Tymon back in January? I mean, he can't be worse than fucking Ward. By all accounts pulling up trees in Portugal - says a lot about Rowett and Jones if true
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 9, 2019 17:05:10 GMT
Tymon was fucking awful for us every time he's played, Rowett even subbed him before half time. Gouranga.
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Post by datguy on Nov 9, 2019 17:05:55 GMT
Can we bring Tymon back in January? I mean, he can't be worse than fucking Ward. Might as well bring in a LB if we're waiting until January like.
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Post by londonstokie17 on Nov 9, 2019 17:06:08 GMT
Would edwards left back and smith right back be worse than Ward at LB - he is just painful to watch - pieters looked like robertson in comparrison
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 9, 2019 17:06:25 GMT
Can we bring Tymon back in January? I mean, he can't be worse than fucking Ward. By all accounts pulling up trees in Portugal - says a lot about Rowett and Jones if true Ward says everything you need to know about Jones fucking disaster.
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Post by tony1234 on Nov 9, 2019 17:06:44 GMT
Trial for Martin Olssson? Batth and Collins as CBs, BMI as LB? Try Smith there? Play without one?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 17:07:11 GMT
When Ryan's back could move BMI out to left back, that'd be grand I reckon.
I have been a big proponent of Clucas there but you couldn't possibly not have him further up the pitch after today.
Imagine having Jones' attacking fullback fetish and believing that McClean and Ward were a capable two to pick from.
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Post by toptom007 on Nov 9, 2019 17:07:31 GMT
God sake, We finally shifted the clown out and got a manager who can actually do the job.
Can we give it 5 mins before the pessimism?
We actually won a game!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 17:07:56 GMT
Isn't Martin Olsson a free agent? I remember him as atleast being reasonably athletic.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 9, 2019 17:09:37 GMT
I'd put Bruno in at left back anyway and put Collins or CCV in middle until Shawcross returns.
Ward is done, he should retire.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Nov 9, 2019 17:11:15 GMT
I’d leave Tymon where he is. If he’s having a good loan then that’s great he was always raw and needed time to learn the role at senior level. I’d look at him in the summer.
As for the academy I’ve liked some of the bits I’ve seen of Corrigan but I’ve not seen enough to comment too much. Probably too early.
Is ward just rusty?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 9, 2019 17:11:18 GMT
I'd put Bruno in at left back anyway and put Collins or CCV in middle until Shawcross returns. Ward is done, he should retire. Collins will be on loan before you can Say craic
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 17:12:23 GMT
Firstly we sack the CEO.
Secondly, we buy a new one.
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Post by wuzza on Nov 9, 2019 17:14:38 GMT
It’s a bigger issue really. The whole defensive system needs addressing. That should be relatively straight forward for an experienced manager. Get the system right and everyone will look better. I’m hopeful he will be able to sort this especially when Ryan gets back.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Nov 9, 2019 17:15:15 GMT
I suggest you leave it to the Manager
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Post by Northy on Nov 9, 2019 17:15:19 GMT
Edwards Batth ccv bmi ? Or the young left back we signed from Man City
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Post by redrob on Nov 9, 2019 17:16:23 GMT
God sake, We finally shifted the clown out and got a manager who can actually do the job. Can we give it 5 mins before the pessimism? We actually won a game! post mortem on Monday tonight lets get the beers in its party time!
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Post by datguy on Nov 9, 2019 17:16:26 GMT
It really will be interested to see who MO'N goes for in January. Wonder if he'll initially stick to his Northern Ireland roots?
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Post by pavel on Nov 9, 2019 17:18:01 GMT
I think the centre of the defence was just as bad, Batth doesn't cut it for me, very soft underbelly.
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Post by londonstokie17 on Nov 9, 2019 17:19:15 GMT
Edwards Batth ccv bmi ? Or the young left back we signed from Man City interesting call on the city kid - how young / experienced is he?
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Post by londonstokie17 on Nov 9, 2019 17:20:05 GMT
God sake, We finally shifted the clown out and got a manager who can actually do the job. Can we give it 5 mins before the pessimism? We actually won a game! did you see where i stated it was fantastic to win, i'm just saying in order to make a habit of it this needs adressing - ward is completely wank
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 9, 2019 17:21:34 GMT
I’d leave Tymon where he is. If he’s having a good loan then that’s great he was always raw and needed time to learn the role at senior level. I’d look at him in the summer. As for the academy I’ve liked some of the bits I’ve seen of Corrigan but I’ve not seen enough to comment too much. Probably too early. Is ward just rusty? Not rusty just old over the hill and half way down the other side. Young, hungry , athletic he ain't.
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Post by londonstokie17 on Nov 9, 2019 17:22:55 GMT
any northern ireland left backs we may pinch?
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Post by Godo on Nov 9, 2019 17:24:57 GMT
Definitely NOT McClean, BMI...……..both bring a lot more to the team in their proper positions and BOTH have been found out in the left back position so why fuck up 2 positions? The width that Mclean brings on the left is invaluable????!!! Is Tymon worth a go? I really don't think he has been given a fair chance but I have no idea whether he really is good enough? Is Corrigan any good? If not then we need to limp through with what we have until January because at least with McClean wide left he will fill in and support Ward. Perhaps ward will improve with game time ( although he is not the answer). We would not be in this position if the recruitment team was not so shit.
What a joy to watch a balanced formation and outlet balls available into wide areas. I really wonder if Jones was a bit of a fraud??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 17:27:26 GMT
any northern ireland left backs we may pinch? Saville for 'Borough has played left back/wing back before. For the National team I think the lad from Norwich does, so no hope of prying him away.
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Post by londonstokie17 on Nov 9, 2019 17:28:38 GMT
Definitely NOT McClean, BMI...……..both bring a lot more to the team in their proper positions and BOTH have been found out in the left back position so why fuck up 2 positions? The width that Mclean brings on the left is invaluable????!!! Is Tymon worth a go? I really don't think he has been given a fair chance but I have no idea whether he really is good enough? Is Corrigan any good? If not then we need to limp through with what we have until January because at least with McClean wide left he will fill in and support Ward. Perhaps ward will improve with game time ( although he is not the answer). We would not be in this position if the recruitment team was not so shit. What a joy to watch a balanced formation and outlet balls available into wide areas. I really wonder if Jones was a bit of a fraud?? for me that was jimmy macs best game for stoke - he was relentless and his quality was much improved - if you look at his work vs ince on the other side its not even comparable
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Post by lordb on Nov 9, 2019 17:29:48 GMT
Can we bring Tymon back in January? I mean, he can't be worse than fucking Ward. By all accounts pulling up trees in Portugal - says a lot about Rowett and Jones if true He's played midfield over there not left back
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