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Post by Linx on Nov 6, 2019 17:50:22 GMT
Which managerial sacking during our decline do you reckon has had the most negative impact or was the worst decision?
It’s too early to assess Jones but of these three: Hughes? Lambert? Rowett?
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Post by neddy on Nov 6, 2019 17:52:10 GMT
Which managerial sacking during our decline do you reckon has had the most negative impact during our decline or was the worst decision? It’s too early to assess Jones but of these three: Hughes? Lambert? Rowett? In hindsight lambert |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 17:53:22 GMT
Hughes because by the time it was made it was too late, and it has started this awful chain reaction of events that have seen a bunch of bookies panic and 'chase the debt' like so many of their customers do every day.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 17:54:57 GMT
Hughes - it had obviously needed doing for ages and was way, way too late when the Board finally woke up and got round to doing it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 17:55:03 GMT
Hughes. No doubts at all. He had to go, but I don't think he would have relegated us.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 6, 2019 18:01:08 GMT
Every manager we've sacked this decade was rightly sacked.
The timing of the sackings have been a problem in several cases, most notably Hughes.
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Post by samstokie1 on Nov 6, 2019 18:01:54 GMT
as much as I hated the man Rowett didnt have very long after inheriting the shit show of a squad that he did and his sacking lead to Jones coming in. Or Hughes because of how long it took them to do so
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Post by bloodtypered on Nov 6, 2019 18:03:25 GMT
Maybe the timing of jones' considering they havent got anyone in mind.. and we are playing barnsley
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Post by march4 on Nov 6, 2019 18:03:31 GMT
Which managerial sacking during our decline do you reckon has had the most negative impact during our decline or was the worst decision? It’s too early to assess Jones but of these three: Hughes? Lambert? Rowett? This crisis all started with the dismissal of TP. |
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Post by cousindupree on Nov 6, 2019 18:04:43 GMT
Hughes without a doubt.Just calamitous timing and not having a nailed on replacement left us with fucking Lambert! I never thought the board would repeat such lunacy. But the Jones sacking again without a replacement nailed on looks like repeating that nightmare managerial appointment  |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Nov 6, 2019 18:14:49 GMT
Hughes. Should've removed him whilst we still had a decent selection of players that a manager can get something out of.
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Post by stokeykez on Nov 6, 2019 18:15:57 GMT
Hughes, 8 months to late and started the rot
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Post by GoBoks on Nov 6, 2019 18:27:44 GMT
Which managerial sacking during our decline do you reckon has had the most negative impact during our decline or was the worst decision? It’s too early to assess Jones but of these three: Hughes? Lambert? Rowett? This crisis all started with the dismissal of TP.  March = Mr Consistency! |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Nov 6, 2019 18:29:28 GMT
Hughes without a doubt sacked far to late & compounded by having no suitable replacement.
Yet we have gone & done it again how not to run a football club.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Nov 6, 2019 18:43:51 GMT
Hughes.
Thought he would have kept us up, if only just. From there we could have moved him aside and got someone else in.
As it stands we went from Mark Hughes to Paul fucking Lambert
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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 6, 2019 18:58:01 GMT
Hughes, then Rowett in hindsight. We were bad under Rowett and we probably would still be largely dour but we’d have won games. At the time though, what we were producing was nowhere near good enough but you’d take that every day over what’s gone on since January.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Nov 6, 2019 18:58:33 GMT
Easily Hughes
Only Stoke can sack a manger too late (end of the season before - what did they not get re the empty stadium for the end of season parade?)
And then too early when we were in such a mess we could not possibly have attracted a decent manager Paul Lambert for goodness sake
Only an opinion but Hughes I believe would have kept us up just but then again given the track record of our board they would have waltzed in to the next season, just like the season before with Sparky at the helm wondering what the fuss was about
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Post by ursemboys on Nov 6, 2019 19:02:58 GMT
Rowett, if he had not taken the Milwall job I would get him back.
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Post by Godo on Nov 6, 2019 19:06:14 GMT
Hughes - Too late
Lambert - why appoint at all?
Rowett - Too soon (but still crap)
Jones - Too late
Next one - whenever = doesn't matter because we aren't going to win more than another 4 or 5 games all season whoever we appoint.
They've all added significantly to the shower of shit in the dressing room ( Gregory, Etebo, N'Diaye and latterly Clucas aside) so they've all had a massive "negative impact".
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Post by redandy on Nov 6, 2019 19:06:47 GMT
The milk started turning sour when we started buying shit players. The likes of Berahino, Imbula and Wimmer have to be the catalyst for our demise, who scouted, wanted and sanctioned the purchases ?
My view is they coincided with Cartwright, if the manager has a shit squad, it doesn't matter how good the manager is.
Hughes best signings were the bargains, much like Pulis, but hand them an open checkbook and a Palacios can happen. Rowett definitley plumbed the depths with signings like Ince ... it makes you shudder when you think of the finances wasted. Then we look at our recent signings .... it's too depressing and upsetting to keep considering/deliberating, no heart, desire or basics employed by 90% of them.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Nov 6, 2019 19:07:44 GMT
Hughes easily, done a season too late.
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Post by right on Nov 6, 2019 19:13:01 GMT
Agreed on Hughes, it was too late, and thus too early once it passed that time frame. Should have gotten rid of him November 2017. Given that he lasted so long we should have kept him the rest of that season. Agree with others that while things were crumbling, I think he keeps us up.
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Post by toptom007 on Nov 6, 2019 19:14:37 GMT
After seeing how bad NJ has been the worst decision was getting rid of Gary Rowett.
With him still in charge we could still be a mid table championship team.
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Post by DansViews on Nov 6, 2019 19:17:43 GMT
Pulis. We would still be fighting survival in the Premier league
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Post by Linx on Nov 6, 2019 19:26:15 GMT
Pulis. We would still be fighting survival in the Premier league I discounted Pulis because we actually improved under Hughes at first, and the decline didn’t start until early 2017, nearly four years after Pulis had left. Another interesting debate is what the fuck happened with Hughes in his fourth year with us? Where did it all go wrong, and it wasn’t just Arnie leaving? |
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Post by lordb on Nov 6, 2019 19:29:13 GMT
Gudjon.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 6, 2019 19:45:47 GMT
After seeing how bad NJ has been the worst decision was getting rid of Gary Rowett. With him still in charge we could still be a mid table championship team. Getting rid of Rowett was the right call. Getting the successor wrong doesn’t mean the original decision was wrong. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 6, 2019 19:47:52 GMT
Pulis. We would still be fighting survival in the Premier league Sacking him when we did arguably extended our Premier League stay by a good few years. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 6, 2019 19:50:33 GMT
In hindsight, Hughes was the worst sacking, because we were only one extra win from staying up..... I think Hughes would have got that one win!!!
Then we could have sacked him in the summer!!!
That said, he should have gone the previous summer really!!!
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Post by Godo on Nov 6, 2019 20:02:19 GMT
Pulis. We would still be fighting survival in the Premier league Sacking him when we did arguably extended our Premier League stay by a good few years. Not an opinion that any West Brom fans would agree with!! The rot set in with the dereliction of duty displayed in the failure to sack Hughes soon enough. If Hughes had gone before the start of our relegation season we were in a position at that point to sign a proper replacement. Any "proper" manager wouldn't have signed shit like Wimmer and Berahino and they'd have been appointed on the basis that useless twats like Scholes and Cartwright were kept well away from player recruitment. Instead the board made a series of massive errors of judgement that have continued for the last 3 seasons. Whether the problem is really the managers or whether this coincides with the ascendancy of John Coates I'm not sure but the executive has been consistently shit in it's decision making since the not very bright one of the Coates family came to the fore. But daddy isn't going to sack junior is he! |
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