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Post by lordb on Oct 23, 2019 5:58:15 GMT
Considering BMI will be needed at centre-half? Probably Odds on - would be tempted to put Clucas in at left back, but with Etebos injury, we are so short in midfield he's needed there Clucas was the best left back we had at the start of the season and he still is now. The problem is replacing him in midfield. Allen
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 23, 2019 6:01:14 GMT
You don't remember Steven Tweed? Yep but the 15k a week plus Ward is earning more than he did trumps him Tweed played most of the games in that awful relegation season and I don't see Lindsay playing a third of that.Tweed was more influential in a negative way.
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 23, 2019 6:09:44 GMT
86-to date. I can't think of a worse one Kofi Nyamah, Marlin Broomes, Graham Harby, Nigel Worthington... Just at left back there is a big list... Another left back Alec Lindsay.Is Lindsay the Latin for Liability?
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 23, 2019 7:43:10 GMT
www.stokecityfc.com/news/jones-sets-out-recruitment-plans“We won’t make mistakes on recruitment here" "“I have a way of recruiting and I have never veered away from that. “If we tick all the right boxes in terms of the players that we bring in, which we will do, then believe me, we won’t go wrong.” And exactly why he should never, ever, be allowed to spend money on SCFC's behalf again. Must admit, the thought of him being in charge of the rebuild next summer, on an equally restricted (although absolutely standard Championship budget) with Badou, Etebo, BMI, Allen needing to be replaced, does bring things into sharp focus. His signings worry me more than his results.
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 23, 2019 7:58:29 GMT
www.stokecityfc.com/news/jones-sets-out-recruitment-plans“We won’t make mistakes on recruitment here" "“I have a way of recruiting and I have never veered away from that. “If we tick all the right boxes in terms of the players that we bring in, which we will do, then believe me, we won’t go wrong.” Lindsay looks mustard. Ward is the absolute boss we need at left back, to suit the diamond system. Davies is yet to concede a first team goal in the league. Makelele was responsible for making the role, "The Makelele Role". Cousins is taking that to a whole new level. Vokes seems undroppable and worth every penny of the 9 million invested. Duffy and Powell are in fierce competition for that place behind the forwards. I don't know what your concerns are, Grapey?
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Post by Northy on Oct 23, 2019 8:00:28 GMT
The worst player I have ever seen in a Stoke shirt. Are you about 6 years old then, or just started going this season 😀
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 23, 2019 8:06:05 GMT
And exactly why he should never, ever, be allowed to spend money on SCFC's behalf again. Must admit, the thought of him being in charge of the rebuild next summer, on an equally restricted (although absolutely standard Championship budget) with Badou, Etebo, BMI, Allen needing to be replaced, does bring things into sharp focus. His signings worry me more than his results. There's a good chance we'll be playing Crewe next season. They'll have a load of young exciting academy players and we'll be fielding a team of journeymen on big salaries. 10 years in the prem flushed down the U bend in 2 years. Crazy.
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Post by questionable on Oct 23, 2019 8:25:10 GMT
Obviously they came to the club under Jones but there’s not a chance they were “his” alone choices, he would have a say but not a major say. I mean would Jones known about the likes of Ward or even dreamt of signing from a Premier League club, not a friggin chance.
What’s come into this club for a number of years has been mainly dire, believe me there’s more behind the scenes meddling than you believe.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 23, 2019 8:27:29 GMT
Obviously they came to the club under Jones but there’s not a chance they were “his” alone choices, he would have a say but not a major say. I mean would Jones known about the likes of Ward or even dreamt of signing from a Premier League club, not a friggin chance. What’s come into this club for a number of years has been mainly dire, believe me there’s more behind the scenes meddling than you believe. They are all 100% Jones players, absolutely no doubt. He's on record as saying he worked with Ward previously (at brighton) and knew what he was all about.
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Post by harrysburrow on Oct 23, 2019 8:46:31 GMT
He’s not put a foot wrong tonight. Least of our worries. Really. Look at the first goal. Lindsay is marking Fletcher. Baath for some reason decides to challenge Fletcher leaving his man free. Lindsay notices this and covers but makes a collossal mess of it. However, if Baath makes no challenge or leaves it to Lindsay he clears the flick on with ease. It's Sunday League defending by both centre halfs. The first error compounding the second. Spot on.
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Post by harrysburrow on Oct 23, 2019 8:49:16 GMT
Utter utter rubbish. Just rubbish. Cant pass, can't cross, can't tackle, can't run, can't do anything right. He's utter wank and was free for a reason Lindsay is all those things and cost £2.5m!
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Post by harrysburrow on Oct 23, 2019 8:52:18 GMT
He is utter shit. 5 years past his best. To think we signed vokes and ward from burnley whilst giving them pieters and crouch.... and approx £8m for there efforts..... and we wonder why we are in such a fucking mess That looks really bad when you write it out loud mate
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Post by dreamtheater on Oct 23, 2019 22:20:57 GMT
He is utter shit. 5 years past his best. To think we signed vokes and ward from burnley whilst giving them pieters and crouch.... and approx £8m for there efforts..... and we wonder why we are in such a fucking mess That looks really bad when you write it out loud mate THIS. Over to you mr Tony Scholes. This lunacy happened on your watch too.
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Post by neilb987 on Oct 24, 2019 10:48:29 GMT
Kofi Nyamah, Marlin Broomes, Graham Harby, Nigel Worthington... Just at left back there is a big list... Another left back Alec Lindsay.Is Lindsay the Latin for Liability?
Ah! But Alec Lindsay HAD BEEN a top-quality International left-back who had played hundreds of games for Liverpool in a team that won multiple league and cup trophies. Just that when he finally arrived at Stoke on a 'free' he was too far over the hill to be be worth his non-fee! The same is probably true of Stephen Ward, but then I'm sure he was never meant to have been more than an emergency cover for a left-back who never turned up ....
Likewise Lindsey Mark II, who was surely bought as 'one for the future' not as a first-choice centre-back. All clubs speculate on young players from lower league teams who they hope will develop into 'something special'. Stoke are just not very good at it ...
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Post by jimmygscfc on Oct 24, 2019 10:55:36 GMT
Ward improved in the second half and was reasonably competent but he has lost any pace he once had.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 24, 2019 11:40:46 GMT
And exactly why he should never, ever, be allowed to spend money on SCFC's behalf again. Must admit, the thought of him being in charge of the rebuild next summer, on an equally restricted (although absolutely standard Championship budget) with Badou, Etebo, BMI, Allen needing to be replaced, does bring things into sharp focus. His signings worry me more than his results. Why are those 4 going anywhere?
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 24, 2019 11:46:40 GMT
Must admit, the thought of him being in charge of the rebuild next summer, on an equally restricted (although absolutely standard Championship budget) with Badou, Etebo, BMI, Allen needing to be replaced, does bring things into sharp focus. His signings worry me more than his results. Why are those 4 going anywhere? None of them will be here next year, will they? There'll be takers for all of them and the priority will be getting the high-earners off the books as we attempt to cut our cloth. Debates about Allen's actual worth will be secondary to getting his £3m-a-year off the wage bill.
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Post by lordb on Oct 24, 2019 12:20:14 GMT
Another left back Alec Lindsay.Is Lindsay the Latin for Liability? Ah! But Alec Lindsay HAD BEEN a top-quality International left-back who had played hundreds of games for Liverpool in a team that won multiple league and cup trophies. Just that when he finally arrived at Stoke on a 'free' he was too far over the hill to be be worth his non-fee! The same is probably true of Stephen Ward, but then I'm sure he was never meant to have been more than an emergency cover for a left-back who never turned up .... Likewise Lindsey Mark II, who was surely bought as 'one for the future' not as a first-choice centre-back. All clubs speculate on young players from lower league teams who they hope will develop into 'something special'. Stoke are just not very good at it ...
Ward falls into the good but past it category alongside Nigel Worthington, Jon Gidman, Neville Southall (world class keeper in his day, fat pudding for us) and Henrik Risom (no really he was really good for Denmark however about 5 years before we signed him by which time he was appalling).
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Post by leicspotter on Oct 24, 2019 12:21:48 GMT
The worst player I have ever seen in a Stoke shirt. You must be quite young then
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 24, 2019 13:16:04 GMT
Another left back Alec Lindsay.Is Lindsay the Latin for Liability? Ah! But Alec Lindsay HAD BEEN a top-quality International left-back who had played hundreds of games for Liverpool in a team that won multiple league and cup trophies. Just that when he finally arrived at Stoke on a 'free' he was too far over the hill to be be worth his non-fee! The same is probably true of Stephen Ward, but then I'm sure he was never meant to have been more than an emergency cover for a left-back who never turned up .... Likewise Lindsey Mark II, who was surely bought as 'one for the future' not as a first-choice centre-back. All clubs speculate on young players from lower league teams who they hope will develop into 'something special'. Stoke are just not very good at it ...
The thread was about players in a Stoke shirt,and when he wore a Stoke shirt he had child bearing hips and was absolutely useless.
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Post by dreamtheater on Oct 24, 2019 13:19:42 GMT
I have come to the conclusion having watched closely, that the way the ball flys of his feet in all directions randomly
he plays football in dutch wooden clogs
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Post by thestatusquo on Oct 24, 2019 13:46:31 GMT
Ah! But Alec Lindsay HAD BEEN a top-quality International left-back who had played hundreds of games for Liverpool in a team that won multiple league and cup trophies. Just that when he finally arrived at Stoke on a 'free' he was too far over the hill to be be worth his non-fee! The same is probably true of Stephen Ward, but then I'm sure he was never meant to have been more than an emergency cover for a left-back who never turned up .... Likewise Lindsey Mark II, who was surely bought as 'one for the future' not as a first-choice centre-back. All clubs speculate on young players from lower league teams who they hope will develop into 'something special'. Stoke are just not very good at it ...
Ward falls into the good but past it category alongside Nigel Worthington, Jon Gidman, Neville Southall (world class keeper in his day, fat pudding for us) and Henrik Risom (no really he was really good for Denmark however about 5 years before we signed him by which time he was appalling). Derek Parkin ?
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Post by jimmygscfc on Oct 24, 2019 14:13:34 GMT
Ward falls into the good but past it category alongside Nigel Worthington, Jon Gidman, Neville Southall (world class keeper in his day, fat pudding for us) and Henrik Risom (no really he was really good for Denmark however about 5 years before we signed him by which time he was appalling). Derek Parkin ? Great 'keeper though
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Post by thestatusquo on Oct 24, 2019 14:15:37 GMT
Great 'keeper though Yep 😎 just stood there and intimidating people 🤪
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Post by silsdenstokie on Oct 24, 2019 19:05:51 GMT
Kofi Nyamah, Marlin Broomes, Graham Harby, Nigel Worthington... Just at left back there is a big list... Another left back Alec Lindsay.Is Lindsay the Latin for Liability? Would add Cliff Carr and Bryan Small to that list. Maybe my memory is harsh on Carr but Small was shocking
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Post by silsdenstokie on Oct 24, 2019 19:08:22 GMT
Ah! But Alec Lindsay HAD BEEN a top-quality International left-back who had played hundreds of games for Liverpool in a team that won multiple league and cup trophies. Just that when he finally arrived at Stoke on a 'free' he was too far over the hill to be be worth his non-fee! The same is probably true of Stephen Ward, but then I'm sure he was never meant to have been more than an emergency cover for a left-back who never turned up .... Likewise Lindsey Mark II, who was surely bought as 'one for the future' not as a first-choice centre-back. All clubs speculate on young players from lower league teams who they hope will develop into 'something special'. Stoke are just not very good at it ...
Ward falls into the good but past it category alongside Nigel Worthington, Jon Gidman, Neville Southall (world class keeper in his day, fat pudding for us) and Henrik Risom (no really he was really good for Denmark however about 5 years before we signed him by which time he was appalling). Derek Statham,, Johnny Woodgate, even Michael Owen
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