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Post by 1972stokey on Oct 15, 2019 18:36:47 GMT
Still an automatic pick for the Republic, pity Mark Hughes didn’t think he was good enough for Stoke two year ago.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 15, 2019 19:16:43 GMT
Irish fans arent particularly happy about him still being picked
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Post by BuckRogers on Oct 15, 2019 19:30:35 GMT
I do miss his passes that went out for a throw in for the oppostion, when under no pressure 😄 he was a master at that🙄
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Post by andylgr on Oct 15, 2019 19:44:46 GMT
Some people don’t actually realise what an important player he was and how good he was to keep things ticking over.
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Post by newsteadst3 on Oct 15, 2019 20:07:42 GMT
Irish fans arent particularly happy about him still being picked Hearts are struggling too |
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Post by toonstokey on Oct 15, 2019 20:10:56 GMT
Since whelan left, some must be pleased with the wide open spaces in the middle of the park game after game for the opposing team to walk the ball in the net. Probably the same folk who saw nzonzi as only able to pass sideways and backwards. Funny old game.
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Post by Little Gary Patel on Oct 15, 2019 20:20:26 GMT
Not sure being a regular in the ROI side is a particularly good measuring stick. Also, didn't rate him enough to spell his name correctly  |
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Post by anchorman on Oct 15, 2019 20:40:30 GMT
Irish fans arent particularly happy about him still being picked So what? Quite a few of our fans weren’t happy about Glen still being picked for Stoke, along with Jonathan Walters or anyone with a heart, or with real with desire and look what happened! Here we are. The manager picks the team and Glen Whelan is quite possibly the first name on his team sheet....’the glue that binds us together’......WHELAN! |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 15, 2019 20:49:44 GMT
Irish fans arent particularly happy about him still being picked So what? Quite a few of our fans weren’t happy about Glen still being picked for Stoke, along with Jonathan Walters or anyone with a heart, or with real with desire and look what happened! Here we are. The manager picks the team and Glen Whelan is quite possibly the first name on his team sheet....’the glue that binds us together’......WHELAN! I was one of few who actually defended him when he was here. The decision to get rid of him wasnt necessarily wrong. The abject failure to replace him effectively was |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Oct 15, 2019 21:00:39 GMT
So what? Quite a few of our fans weren’t happy about Glen still being picked for Stoke, along with Jonathan Walters or anyone with a heart, or with real with desire and look what happened! Here we are. The manager picks the team and Glen Whelan is quite possibly the first name on his team sheet....’the glue that binds us together’......WHELAN! I was one of few who actually defended him when he was here. The decision to get rid of him wasnt necessarily wrong. The abject failure to replace him effectively was Spot on...but in true Oatcake style, the hard of thinking only do things in extremes. If you don't still wish he was here, then that equates to having hated him and never appreciating him and what he did for the team. One or the other..worship or hate apparently nowadays on this board. Like you, i (and i think most others) thoroughly appreciate what he did for us. Cracking player for us but as you rightly say, that doesn't mean that selling him at that time was a mistake. Every player starts to wane as they get older and Glenn was when we sold him, it was the right move. |
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Post by anchorman on Oct 15, 2019 21:34:33 GMT
I was one of few who actually defended him when he was here. The decision to get rid of him wasnt necessarily wrong. The abject failure to replace him effectively was Spot on...but in true Oatcake style, the hard of thinking only do things in extremes. If you don't still wish he was here, then that equates to having hated him and never appreciating him and what he did for the team. One or the other..worship or hate apparently nowadays on this board. Like you, i (and i think most others) thoroughly appreciate what he did for us. Cracking player for us but as you rightly say, that doesn't mean that selling him at that time was a mistake. Every player starts to wane as they get older and Glenn was when we sold him, it was the right move. |
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Post by anchorman on Oct 15, 2019 21:41:46 GMT
Spot on...but in true Oatcake style, the hard of thinking only do things in extremes. If you don't still wish he was here, then that equates to having hated him and never appreciating him and what he did for the team. One or the other..worship or hate apparently nowadays on this board. Like you, i (and i think most others) thoroughly appreciate what he did for us. Cracking player for us but as you rightly say, that doesn't mean that selling him at that time was a mistake. Every player starts to wane as they get older and Glenn was when we sold him, it was the right move. Fair point. The issue certainly was Hughes’ failure to replace him (was it 50m spent on inadequate ‘replacements’. It was just criminal that Darren Fletcher signed on a 2 year deal . In my view Glen was good for a 2 year deal, where he was still involved as well as remaining a huge influence in the dressing room. He just would not have tolerated the nonsense during our relegation season. |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Oct 15, 2019 21:57:46 GMT
Fair point. The issue certainly was Hughes’ failure to replace him (was it 50m spent on inadequate ‘replacements’. It was just criminal that Darren Fletcher signed on a 2 year deal . In my view Glen was good for a 2 year deal, where he was still involved as well as remaining a huge influence in the dressing room. He just would not have tolerated the nonsense during our relegation season. Agree with most of that and in hindsight i'm sure most would rather that he'd have stayed. But hindsight isn't how you manage transfers unfortunately and at the time Glenn was about 33, wasn't what he had been and i'm sure they weren't aware that Glenn's replacements would turn out to be as shit as they were. When it comes down to it, i don't recall anyone being particularly disgusted or livid at the club when we actually sold him (apart from iloveglennwhelan). Plenty wished him well, thanked him etc. but i didn't see any "What the fuck are they thinking selling Glenn??!!!" threads. Not sure he would have made much difference in the changing room to be fair. He didn't when Kitson was being a dick, he didn't during pighead-gate, Beattie and Pulis having a bust up, Ric and Griff etc. etc. He was also in the dressing room with most of the same players the year before relegation season. Not as if the dressing room suddenly went to shit only after Glenn left. |
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Post by anchorman on Oct 15, 2019 22:07:48 GMT
Fair point. The issue certainly was Hughes’ failure to replace him (was it 50m spent on inadequate ‘replacements’. It was just criminal that Darren Fletcher signed on a 2 year deal . In my view Glen was good for a 2 year deal, where he was still involved as well as remaining a huge influence in the dressing room. He just would not have tolerated the nonsense during our relegation season. Agree with most of that and in hindsight i'm sure most would rather that he'd have stayed. But hindsight isn't how you manage transfers unfortunately and at the time Glenn was about 33, wasn't what he had been and i'm sure they weren't aware that Glenn's replacements would turn out to be as shit as they were. When it comes down to it, i don't recall anyone being particularly disgusted or livid at the club when we actually sold him (apart from iloveglennwhelan). Plenty wished him well, thanked him etc. but i didn't see any "What the fuck are they thinking selling Glenn??!!!" threads. That’s true, I think most supporters were waiting to see who was finally going to slot into the Whelan role. Unfortunately nobody ever did so hindsight was all we had in the end & although I didn’t create a post, I certainly thought ‘what the fuck are they doing selling Glen Whelhan!’.......but I’m over it now......😉 |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Oct 15, 2019 22:11:20 GMT
Agree with most of that and in hindsight i'm sure most would rather that he'd have stayed. But hindsight isn't how you manage transfers unfortunately and at the time Glenn was about 33, wasn't what he had been and i'm sure they weren't aware that Glenn's replacements would turn out to be as shit as they were. When it comes down to it, i don't recall anyone being particularly disgusted or livid at the club when we actually sold him (apart from iloveglennwhelan). Plenty wished him well, thanked him etc. but i didn't see any "What the fuck are they thinking selling Glenn??!!!" threads. That’s true, I think most supporters were waiting to see who was finally going to slot into the Whelan role. Unfortunately nobody ever did so hindsight was all we had in the end & although I didn’t create a post, I certainly thought ‘what the fuck are they doing selling Glen Whelhan!’.......but I’m over it now......😉 I think it's definitely true that a lot didn't realise his importance until after he'd gone and he was under appreciated on here by some but i think given his age and the fact he'd only extended his existing contract by a year the previous year (meaning he now only had one left) it was the right time. If we hadn't he'd have gone for nothing the year after and then we'd have had threads about how shit the club are for letting him go for free. |
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Post by pushon on Oct 16, 2019 16:17:24 GMT
I do miss his passes that went out for a throw in for the oppostion, when under no pressure 😄 he was a master at that🙄 I also appreciated the fact that it was never,ever, his fault. The intended recipient,if there was one, was never in his correct position. |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Oct 16, 2019 19:35:09 GMT
Still an automatic pick for the Republic, pity Mark Hughes didn’t think he was good enough for Stoke two year ago. The flip side of this is that a succession of Republic managers still see James McClean as an automatic pick and yet I believe that the majority of us Stokies (me, at the front of the queue) don't even think he is good enough to play for us in the Championship. What the bleeding hell do they see in him? |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 16, 2019 21:33:42 GMT
Still an automatic pick for the Republic, pity Mark Hughes didn’t think he was good enough for Stoke two year ago. The flip side of this is that a succession of Republic managers still see James McClean as an automatic pick and yet I believe that the majority of us Stokies (me, at the front of the queue) don't even think he is good enough to play for us in the Championship. What the bleeding hell do they see in him? Fucked if I know. |
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Post by wherty on Oct 17, 2019 19:09:50 GMT
Still an automatic pick for the Republic, pity Mark Hughes didn’t think he was good enough for Stoke two year ago. Many Stoke fans didn't think he was good enough for Stoke 3 years ago also. |
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