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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 21, 2019 16:49:59 GMT
Butland 7, not much to do today but did what is expected from him. Carter-Vickers 6, did OK today, but nothing exceptional. Lindsay 6, did OK before he had to go off. Indi 7, thought he looked really solid. Batth 7, we only looked more solid after his introduction. Blocked everything they tried to do. McClean 6, worked ever so hard, but doesn't look comfortable defensively one on one and his crosses were dire. Edwards 5, was not impressed today. Mediocre defensively and going forward. Badou 7, he is a class player. Etebo 7, another good display. Clucas 5, not good enough today. Gregory 6, hopeless task today. Ince 5, never got into the game. Campbell 5, couldn't really get into the game. Vokes 5, too little time. NJ 6, got an away point against a decent side, but it's now 3 wins from 28!!!
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 21, 2019 16:53:19 GMT
Butland 7, not much to do today but did what is expected from him. Carter-Vickers 6, did OK today, but nothing exceptional. Lindsay 6, did OK before he had to go off. Indi 7, thought he looked really solid. Batth 7, we only looked more solid after his introduction. Blocked everything they tried to do. McClean 6, worked ever so hard, but doesn't look comfortable defensively one on one and his crosses were dire. Edwards 5, was not impressed today. Mediocre defensively and going forward. Badou 7, he is a class player. Etebo 7, another good display. Clucas 5, not good enough today. Gregory 6, hopeless task today. Ince 5, never got into the game. Campbell 5, couldn't really get into the game. Vokes 5, too little time. NJ 6, got an away point against a decent side, but it's now 3 wins from 28!!! [/quote Butland 6 CCV 8 Lindsay 6 / Batth 7 BMI 7 Edwards 6 McClean 7 Badou 7 Etebo 7 Clucas 6 Ince 6 Gregory 6
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2019 17:01:14 GMT
Only watched it on tv.
Butland 6
Edwards 6 CCV 6 Lindsay 4 Indi 6 McClean 5
Badou 6.5 Etebo 6 Clucas 5 Ince 3
Gregory 4
Batth 6.5 Campbell 5
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Post by wuzza on Sept 21, 2019 17:38:17 GMT
Plenty of effort but widespread mediocrity. Thought McLean defended reasonably but on the other side Edwards wasn’t great. Badou looked decent but Etebo’s lack of quality in front of goal was disappointing again. The attack in general was non existent. Our players get paid considerably more than a lot of others in this division - why don’t they look better than them?
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 21, 2019 17:40:55 GMT
Only watched it on tv. Butland 6 Edwards 6 CCV 6 Lindsay 4 Indi 6 McClean 5 Badou 6.5 Etebo 6 Clucas 5 Ince 3 Gregory 4 Batth 6.5 Campbell 5 Edwards was cack, and you’re being harsh on Gregory who spent 70 minutes isolated and ran his nuts off.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 17:42:09 GMT
Everyone 6 except Lindsay 5 Ndiaye 7.5 McLean 6.4999999999 Batth 7 Gregory 5
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2019 19:37:29 GMT
Only watched it on tv. Butland 6 Edwards 6 CCV 6 Lindsay 4 Indi 6 McClean 5 Badou 6.5 Etebo 6 Clucas 5 Ince 3 Gregory 4 Batth 6.5 Campbell 5 Edwards was cack, and you’re being harsh on Gregory who spent 70 minutes isolated and ran his nuts off. Edwards was fine. Some good balls in, some decent defending. Gregory did work hard but we never looked a threat and he doesn’t look like he’ll score in a month of Sunday’s. He’s got a thankless task but that’s his job and he doesn’t do it well.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Sept 21, 2019 19:46:06 GMT
Butland 7, not much to do today but did what is expected from him. Carter-Vickers 6, did OK today, but nothing exceptional. Lindsay 6, did OK before he had to go off. Indi 7, thought he looked really solid. Batth 7, we only looked more solid after his introduction. Blocked everything they tried to do. McClean 6, worked ever so hard, but doesn't look comfortable defensively one on one and his crosses were dire. Edwards 5, was not impressed today. Mediocre defensively and going forward. Badou 7, he is a class player. Etebo 7, another good display. Clucas 5, not good enough today. Gregory 6, hopeless task today. Ince 5, never got into the game. Campbell 5, couldn't really get into the game. Vokes 5, too little time. NJ 6, got an away point against a decent side, but it's now 3 wins from 28!!! Yeah. Pick the negative. Typical NATHAN JONES' BARMY ARMY SGS
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 21, 2019 19:49:12 GMT
Butland 7, not much to do today but did what is expected from him. Carter-Vickers 6, did OK today, but nothing exceptional. Lindsay 6, did OK before he had to go off. Indi 7, thought he looked really solid. Batth 7, we only looked more solid after his introduction. Blocked everything they tried to do. McClean 6, worked ever so hard, but doesn't look comfortable defensively one on one and his crosses were dire. Edwards 5, was not impressed today. Mediocre defensively and going forward. Badou 7, he is a class player. Etebo 7, another good display. Clucas 5, not good enough today. Gregory 6, hopeless task today. Ince 5, never got into the game. Campbell 5, couldn't really get into the game. Vokes 5, too little time. NJ 6, got an away point against a decent side, but it's now 3 wins from 28!!! Yeah. Pick the negative. Typical NATHAN JONES' BARMY ARMY SGS Some people don't see the woods because of all the trees I'm afraid!
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Post by chiswickpotter on Sept 21, 2019 19:52:14 GMT
Butland 7, not much to do today but did what is expected from him. Carter-Vickers 6, did OK today, but nothing exceptional. Lindsay 6, did OK before he had to go off. Indi 7, thought he looked really solid. Batth 7, we only looked more solid after his introduction. Blocked everything they tried to do. McClean 6, worked ever so hard, but doesn't look comfortable defensively one on one and his crosses were dire. Edwards 5, was not impressed today. Mediocre defensively and going forward. Badou 7, he is a class player. Etebo 7, another good display. Clucas 5, not good enough today. Gregory 6, hopeless task today. Ince 5, never got into the game. Campbell 5, couldn't really get into the game. Vokes 5, too little time. NJ 6, got an away point against a decent side, but it's now 3 wins from 28!!! MCClean won every single one on one today, whatvarevyou talking about?
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Post by chiswickpotter on Sept 21, 2019 19:54:28 GMT
Only watched it on tv. Butland 6 Edwards 6 CCV 6 Lindsay 4 Indi 6 McClean 5 Badou 6.5 Etebo 6 Clucas 5 Ince 3 Gregory 4 Batth 6.5 Campbell 5 Edwards was cack, and you’re being harsh on Gregory who spent 70 minutes isolated and ran his nuts off. Agre, Edwards was weak, Gregory did nothing wrong but was isolated and held the ball up well.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 21, 2019 19:56:26 GMT
Butland 7, not much to do today but did what is expected from him. Carter-Vickers 6, did OK today, but nothing exceptional. Lindsay 6, did OK before he had to go off. Indi 7, thought he looked really solid. Batth 7, we only looked more solid after his introduction. Blocked everything they tried to do. McClean 6, worked ever so hard, but doesn't look comfortable defensively one on one and his crosses were dire. Edwards 5, was not impressed today. Mediocre defensively and going forward. Badou 7, he is a class player. Etebo 7, another good display. Clucas 5, not good enough today. Gregory 6, hopeless task today. Ince 5, never got into the game. Campbell 5, couldn't really get into the game. Vokes 5, too little time. NJ 6, got an away point against a decent side, but it's now 3 wins from 28!!! MCClean won every single one on one today, whatvarevyou talking about? If you think so you'll better watch the whole game all over again, but it was one of his better performances defensively though.
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 21, 2019 19:57:19 GMT
Edwards was cack, and you’re being harsh on Gregory who spent 70 minutes isolated and ran his nuts off. Edwards was fine. Some good balls in, some decent defending. Gregory did work hard but we never looked a threat and he doesn’t look like he’ll score in a month of Sunday’s. He’s got a thankless task but that’s his job and he doesn’t do it well. You have a blind spot when it comes to our youth players. Ask yourself what your opinion would have been if Tommy Smith had put in an identical performance to the one Edwards did today.
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 21, 2019 20:01:35 GMT
Thought they played like they like Nathan and know its nearly time. Huff and puff couldn't beat a lack of plan though.
Butland 6, not much to do today but did what is expected from him. One brave take. Edwards 4 nothing came off, poor quality at times. He'll have far better days. Carter-Vickers 6, did OK today, but nothing exceptional. Lindsay 5, Distribution was poor when it was anything but the simplest pass Indi 7, quiet but effective. Good block. Batth 7, did okay McClean 5, worked hard lacked quality Badou 8 may be our saving grace Etebo 7, decent-goodish Clucas 4, ineffectual Gregory 5, ran lots Ince 5 not a lot to say Campbell -- Vokes --
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Sept 21, 2019 20:16:50 GMT
Yeah. Pick the negative. Typical NATHAN JONES' BARMY ARMY SGS Some people don't see the woods because of all the trees I'm afraid! So who should we bring in? Why? I await your EXPERT opinion. SGS
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2019 20:42:19 GMT
Edwards was fine. Some good balls in, some decent defending. Gregory did work hard but we never looked a threat and he doesn’t look like he’ll score in a month of Sunday’s. He’s got a thankless task but that’s his job and he doesn’t do it well. You have a blind spot when it comes to our youth players. Ask yourself what your opinion would have been if Tommy Smith had put in an identical performance to the one Edwards did today. He was perfectly fine. I think my ratings show I don’t have a blind spot with anything.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 20:54:19 GMT
Butland 7 Was OK
Carter-Vickers 5.5 "
Lindsay 5.5 Poor passing, OK defending.
BMI 6 Did OK.
Batth 7.5 Really quite good today, we looked better for him in there.
McClean 6 Was OK at the back, better one on one's today, nothing going foward.
Edwards 5.5 Bit of an off day defending - some great corners and deliveries though.
Badou 7.5 cut above again today.
Etebo 6 looked knackered but a decent enough performance - if he's fully fit he scores that.
Clucas 3 Wank.
Gregory 6.5 Worked really hard, glad he elbowed that cunter in the mouth too.
Ince 4 Went hiding.
Campbell 4 One good run. Needs to affect the game more.
Vokes 3 Added nothing.
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 21, 2019 21:02:06 GMT
Butland 6 Edwards 5 McClean 5 CCV 7 Indi 7 Lindsay 6 Batth 7 Etebo 6 NDiaye 6 Clucas 5 Ince 4 Gregory 6 Verlinden 9 motm
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 22, 2019 6:33:13 GMT
Some people don't see the woods because of all the trees I'm afraid! So who should we bring in? Why? I await your EXPERT opinion. SGS Must be good for Jones and the board to see satisfied supporters. I am not satisfied with 2 points out of 24, 3 wins out of 28, looking like a certain relegation candidate and being able to grind out a point away at Brentford. If you really think you need to be an expert to see this is really a horrible time for the club, well then I don't think I will bother coming with an EXPERT opinion to you. I think it will be better for you living in your own bubble and experience these times as good and positive. Keep having a nice time!
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 22, 2019 6:49:38 GMT
Bet Badou and Etebo can’t wait to get away from this pile of shite. Ince, watched him for a good season now, not sure what he actually does. The rest Championship players playing at their level. Could well be wrong, but can’t see us finishing above half way. Possibly relegation fight unless there is a sudden turn around, which doesn’t seem likely at the moment.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 22, 2019 6:59:30 GMT
Bet Badou and Etebo can’t wait to get away from this pile of shite. Ince, watched him for a good season now, not sure what he actually does. The rest Championship players playing at their level. Could well be wrong, but can’t see us finishing above half way. Possibly relegation fight unless there is a sudden turn around, which doesn’t seem likely at the moment. Right now I think everyone would take last season's 16th place. Which says a lot about how NJ has transformed this club to something worse. You can talk about everything that is done behind the scene, but whatever is done it's down to the points gained in the end. The results so far are there for everyone to see and I really can't understand why he is still here. Is there really a manager in our history who has survived with such results? NJ is good at talking, but so far it's just been talk, talk and talk. I've got a feeling this will be what he will be remembered for as well here, talk...talk...talk................
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Post by toppercorner on Sept 22, 2019 7:23:01 GMT
Butland 6 Terrible distribution today. I lost count of the times it went straight to them. Must have been better for confidence in keeping a clean sheet. CCV 5.5 Anonymous Lindsay 5.5 Anonymous BMI 7 Good, commanding Batth 7 Put his body in the way of the ball enough times McClean 6.5 The effort was there and caused some issues down the flanks Edwards 6 Not his best game, a lot of wayward passes Badou 8 Ran and controlled midfield for us. Stoke's MotM. Etebo 8 Always winning the ball back and getting it out to the wings. Unlucky at the end. Clucas 7 Starting to grow on me. Some neat interchanges Gregory 7.5 Never stopped running/harrassing, and chased down what we'd normally see as a lost cause. Needs to play in a two. Ince 6 Missing for large spells, only small glimpses of what he can do. Campbell 6.5 On too late. Threatening for their defence and they couldn't deal with him. Criminally underused by jones Vokes 5 A bit of running and pointless headers that went anywhere but to other Stoke players.
Jones 5.5 Still confusing as to why he won't start 2 up front.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 7:42:45 GMT
Only watched it on tv. Butland 6 Edwards 6 CCV 6 Lindsay 4 Indi 6 McClean 5 Badou 6.5 Etebo 6 Clucas 5 Ince 3 Gregory 4 Batth 6.5 Campbell 5 You get a '5' for getting sent off after 12 mins! 🙄
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Post by Bagwash on Sept 22, 2019 8:07:55 GMT
Butland 7, not much to do today but did what is expected from him. Carter-Vickers 6, did OK today, but nothing exceptional. Lindsay 6, did OK before he had to go off. Indi 7, thought he looked really solid. Batth 7, we only looked more solid after his introduction. Blocked everything they tried to do. McClean 6, worked ever so hard, but doesn't look comfortable defensively one on one and his crosses were dire. Edwards 5, was not impressed today. Mediocre defensively and going forward. Badou 7, he is a class player. Etebo 7, another good display. Clucas 5, not good enough today. Gregory 6, hopeless task today. Ince 5, never got into the game. Campbell 5, couldn't really get into the game. Vokes 5, too little time. NJ 6, got an away point against a decent side, but it's now 3 wins from 28!!! Pretty much what I would give except would mark Ince and Clucas even lower,how Ince plays week in,week out is beyond me.Feel sorry for Gregory,needs someone playing next to him to complement his work rate. As a bloke, I like Jones,as a manager I have lost faith in him,even if we win the next two home games.Need a change pretty soonish.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 22, 2019 8:17:59 GMT
Butland 7, not much to do today but did what is expected from him. Carter-Vickers 6, did OK today, but nothing exceptional. Lindsay 6, did OK before he had to go off. Indi 7, thought he looked really solid. Batth 7, we only looked more solid after his introduction. Blocked everything they tried to do. McClean 6, worked ever so hard, but doesn't look comfortable defensively one on one and his crosses were dire. Edwards 5, was not impressed today. Mediocre defensively and going forward. Badou 7, he is a class player. Etebo 7, another good display. Clucas 5, not good enough today. Gregory 6, hopeless task today. Ince 5, never got into the game. Campbell 5, couldn't really get into the game. Vokes 5, too little time. NJ 6, got an away point against a decent side, but it's now 3 wins from 28!!! Pretty much what I would give except would mark Ince and Clucas even lower,how Ince plays week in,week out is beyond me.Feel sorry for Gregory,needs someone playing next to him to complement his work rate. As a bloke, I like Jones,as a manager I have lost faith in him,even if we win the next two home games.Need a change pretty soonish. I really like Ince as he is one of our few players able to create something on his own, but I agree he really is no striker. He is clearly at his best when he can cut in from the wing, but unfortunately he isn't played in such a position by NJ.
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 22, 2019 8:32:50 GMT
Bet Badou and Etebo can’t wait to get away from this pile of shite. Ince, watched him for a good season now, not sure what he actually does. The rest Championship players playing at their level. Could well be wrong, but can’t see us finishing above half way. Possibly relegation fight unless there is a sudden turn around, which doesn’t seem likely at the moment. I've watched him closely as well, especially since he came on to replace Bojan at Hull last season. He does have natural ball handling talent and can shoot very well with his left foot, what some like to call a good technical player. But I think that's where it stops. He does not put in effort off the ball; he does not make himself available to players but stands around and is marked out of the game by opposition, so he only gets the ball if he goes wide or comes deep. I feel he is the product of a spoiled upbringing. He is totally unsuited to playing at the top of the diamond as he is very one footed and has to get the ball onto his left foot before he can do anything with it, which loses that fraction of time to break through a defence. Being one footed means defenders keep pushing him right so he can't shoot or make a decent pass. He can hold the ball well and tries to turn left so he can pass or shoot. Just a few thoughts. It is hardly surprising that all the managers in the 10 or more clubs he has played for have not retained/bought him, and moved him on or sent him back.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 8:37:19 GMT
Some people don't see the woods because of all the trees I'm afraid! So who should we bring in? Why? I await your EXPERT opinion. SGS Only at Stoke would we have fans happy with 2 points out of 8 games. 5 points from safety and absolutely no improvement from last season. His record would see him sacked at any other club in the country. That said he did say we are close to being a good team... how can we question that? Keep on happy clapping chappy. A football clubs wet dream.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 8:41:07 GMT
Butland 7, not much to do today but did what is expected from him. Carter-Vickers 6, did OK today, but nothing exceptional. Lindsay 6, did OK before he had to go off. Indi 7, thought he looked really solid. Batth 7, we only looked more solid after his introduction. Blocked everything they tried to do. McClean 6, worked ever so hard, but doesn't look comfortable defensively one on one and his crosses were dire. Edwards 5, was not impressed today. Mediocre defensively and going forward. Badou 7, he is a class player. Etebo 7, another good display. Clucas 5, not good enough today. Gregory 6, hopeless task today. Ince 5, never got into the game. Campbell 5, couldn't really get into the game. Vokes 5, too little time. NJ 6, got an away point against a decent side, but it's now 3 wins from 28!!! By decent side do you mean a team who were 18th, have a 10th of our budget and have won one at home? I guess some fans are back to the old mind set and are happy with failure, good ol’ days ey!
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Post by stokest5 on Sept 22, 2019 8:41:33 GMT
Pretty much what I would give except would mark Ince and Clucas even lower,how Ince plays week in,week out is beyond me.Feel sorry for Gregory,needs someone playing next to him to complement his work rate. As a bloke, I like Jones,as a manager I have lost faith in him,even if we win the next two home games.Need a change pretty soonish. I really like Ince as he is one of our few players able to create something on his own, but I agree he really is no striker. He is clearly at his best when he can cut in from the wing, but unfortunately he isn't played in such a position by NJ. When was the last time Ince created something? He’s frustrating to watch plays for the foul every time either that or he’s hiding.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 22, 2019 8:53:11 GMT
Butland 7, not much to do today but did what is expected from him. Carter-Vickers 6, did OK today, but nothing exceptional. Lindsay 6, did OK before he had to go off. Indi 7, thought he looked really solid. Batth 7, we only looked more solid after his introduction. Blocked everything they tried to do. McClean 6, worked ever so hard, but doesn't look comfortable defensively one on one and his crosses were dire. Edwards 5, was not impressed today. Mediocre defensively and going forward. Badou 7, he is a class player. Etebo 7, another good display. Clucas 5, not good enough today. Gregory 6, hopeless task today. Ince 5, never got into the game. Campbell 5, couldn't really get into the game. Vokes 5, too little time. NJ 6, got an away point against a decent side, but it's now 3 wins from 28!!! By decent side do you mean a team who were 18th, have a 10th of our budget and have won one at home? I guess some fans are back to the old mind set and are happy with failure, good ol’ days ey! If you think I'm pleased with the situation you can't have read many of my posts lately! I really thought yesterday was a step in the right direction when it comes to keeping a clean sheet and finally getting a point away. I also think Brentford will start climbing soon, but despite this we're sliding away from safety. I could accept this result if we had picked up a lot more points from our other games, but right now I see no other way than to sack Jones.
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