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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Sept 18, 2019 20:07:21 GMT
He really really doesn’t look well. I think that’s what separates and adheres Jones to the fans from the last couple of managers, and what’s bought him so much time and bare with me on this. He seems to be giving absolutely EVERYTHING to this club, including his health and mental health by the look of things, which we haven’t had since Pulis (?) and I dread to think what effect this is having on his new marriage. I really, really hope we turn a corner for his sake because this can’t carry on, for Jones himself, the club and the fans. I just have this nagging feeling we’ll sack him, he’ll go to Lincoln or something equally daft and be a roaring success, get into the champ and be successful. I said on another thread, I feel like he’s the right man at the wrong time. Almost If we’d held onto Rowett until the end of the season then got Jones summer just gone. I completely agree with you here. That photo pains me to look at, god I hope we turn a corner and pick up some points. Some of the abuse he gets on here is ridiculous, I understand questioning his subs, tactics, whatever, but some of the abuse is absolutely pathetic. Look at the man, he's obviously giving it his all, for his sake I hope he gets something at Brentford.
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Post by callas12 on Sept 18, 2019 20:21:17 GMT
Doesn't make him a good keeper either...and what I saw pre-season wasn't too impressive...probably why Federici is ahead of him Have you seen the video of him ?, I have never seen a keeper parry so many shots back into the danger area who ever signed him needs a right bollocking. Perhaps he's been watching the Jordon Pickford guide to goalkeeping DVD! 😁😂
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Post by callas12 on Sept 18, 2019 20:28:39 GMT
That photo doesnt look great but I'm hoping that pic has just caught him at the wrong time as can sometimes happen when having photo taken. It could be the lighting thats making him look more pale than usual and maybe he's already had 10 photos taken with people prior to this one and he looks unhappy coz just wants to get on & watch the match. Probably none of these but managing Stoke can clearly have a negative impact on health! Pulis had hair on his early pressers although thinking the constant wearing of baseball caps did him no favours there 😂
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 18, 2019 20:34:25 GMT
He really really doesn’t look well. I think that’s what separates and adheres Jones to the fans from the last couple of managers, and what’s bought him so much time and bare with me on this. He seems to be giving absolutely EVERYTHING to this club, including his health and mental health by the look of things, which we haven’t had since Pulis (?) and I dread to think what effect this is having on his new marriage. I really, really hope we turn a corner for his sake because this can’t carry on, for Jones himself, the club and the fans. I just have this nagging feeling we’ll sack him, he’ll go to Lincoln or something equally daft and be a roaring success, get into the champ and be successful. I said on another thread, I feel like he’s the right man at the wrong time. Almost If we’d held onto Rowett until the end of the season then got Jones summer just gone. I completely agree with you here. That photo pains me to look at, god I hope we turn a corner and pick up some points. Some of the abuse he gets on here is ridiculous, I understand questioning his subs, tactics, whatever, but some of the abuse is absolutely pathetic. Look at the man, he's obviously giving it his all, for his sake I hope he gets something at Brentford. Am I missing something? He looks fine, some dodgy over exposure on the image but it’s just a standard (a bit of a drag, but part of the job) meet the fan photo. Blimey some of the things people read into on this board
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Sept 18, 2019 21:17:14 GMT
I completely agree with you here. That photo pains me to look at, god I hope we turn a corner and pick up some points. Some of the abuse he gets on here is ridiculous, I understand questioning his subs, tactics, whatever, but some of the abuse is absolutely pathetic. Look at the man, he's obviously giving it his all, for his sake I hope he gets something at Brentford. Am I missing something? He looks fine, some dodgy over exposure on the image but it’s just a standard (a bit of a drag, but part of the job) meet the fan photo. Blimey some of the things people read into on this board He looks depressed as sin and like he's aged about 60 years, sorry I didnt pull out my O level photography analysis skills to add further rationale to my assesment. Blimey.
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 18, 2019 21:41:59 GMT
Definitely think he's looking a bit "peaky" in this shot in his last press conference
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Post by melbournepotter on Sept 18, 2019 21:45:14 GMT
Definitely think he's looking a bit "peaky" in this shot in his last press conference nah...its the camera angle and lights making him look peaky, he's fine.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 22:30:28 GMT
He really really doesn’t look well. I think that’s what separates and adheres Jones to the fans from the last couple of managers, and what’s bought him so much time and bare with me on this. He seems to be giving absolutely EVERYTHING to this club, including his health and mental health by the look of things, which we haven’t had since Pulis (?) and I dread to think what effect this is having on his new marriage. I really, really hope we turn a corner for his sake because this can’t carry on, for Jones himself, the club and the fans. I just have this nagging feeling we’ll sack him, he’ll go to Lincoln or something equally daft and be a roaring success, get into the champ and be successful. I said on another thread, I feel like he’s the right man at the wrong time. Almost If we’d held onto Rowett until the end of the season then got Jones summer just gone. I completely agree with you here. That photo pains me to look at, god I hope we turn a corner and pick up some points. Some of the abuse he gets on here is ridiculous, I understand questioning his subs, tactics, whatever, but some of the abuse is absolutely pathetic. Look at the man, he's obviously giving it his all, for his sake I hope he gets something at Brentford. You would think that Paul Hart would put an arm around him and advise him about his health. He needs a holiday.
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Post by Gods on Sept 18, 2019 23:36:33 GMT
I completely agree with you here. That photo pains me to look at, god I hope we turn a corner and pick up some points. Some of the abuse he gets on here is ridiculous, I understand questioning his subs, tactics, whatever, but some of the abuse is absolutely pathetic. Look at the man, he's obviously giving it his all, for his sake I hope he gets something at Brentford. Am I missing something? He looks fine, some dodgy over exposure on the image but it’s just a standard (a bit of a drag, but part of the job) meet the fan photo. Blimey some of the things people read into on this board No you're not missing anything. As you say bit of over exposure but other than that it just looks like Nathan Jones with huge glasses on. Doesn't help that they have wedged him between a tall dad and a giant boy. It's odd that Nathan doesn't have any shoulders but neither did Rowett, it seems to be a physical trait we look for in our post-Hughes appointments. Not to say I don't still think he is crackers. But he was crackers when he was at Luton, crackers when he first joined us and he is still crackers now.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 19, 2019 2:17:58 GMT
He's a likeable manager. I still hope he turns it around. I just think we all know that won't happen.
It's the signings in the summer that have done for him. Just as rowetts' signings finished him.
Sign good players! That's the most important thing, then do your coaching, changing the culture etc with those players!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 3:20:05 GMT
I completely agree with you here. That photo pains me to look at, god I hope we turn a corner and pick up some points. Some of the abuse he gets on here is ridiculous, I understand questioning his subs, tactics, whatever, but some of the abuse is absolutely pathetic. Look at the man, he's obviously giving it his all, for his sake I hope he gets something at Brentford. Every word you say abuses him on a personal level, yet you condemn the abuse he gets. Yes that is truly pathetic! C'mon it's just a photograph of a man you haven't seen with glasses on before, who's just had a haircut...
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Sept 19, 2019 6:09:37 GMT
I completely agree with you here. That photo pains me to look at, god I hope we turn a corner and pick up some points. Some of the abuse he gets on here is ridiculous, I understand questioning his subs, tactics, whatever, but some of the abuse is absolutely pathetic. Look at the man, he's obviously giving it his all, for his sake I hope he gets something at Brentford. Every word you say abuses him on a personal level, yet you condemn the abuse he gets. Yes that is truly pathetic! C'mon it's just a photograph of a man you haven't seen with glasses on before, who's just had a haircut... Looks like I hit a nerve here with you If what you're accusing me of is pathetic I dread to see what word defines the majority of the drivel you post on here. Enjoy your day
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 19, 2019 6:30:00 GMT
Yes, we are doing shite. Jones his doing his best, it might not be good enough. However, the bloke has been asked to pose for a photo with fans. The result now being his mental health is being questioned, by in the large unqualified people I assume. Alternatively, he refuses the photo and becomes a mardarse. Football aside, I feel sorry for him because he can’t win. I truly hope he turns this around for the sake of him and Stoke City. More change is not good. All it will bring is another poor soul to be crucified because he don’t look right or he said this or that when he hasn’t turned around this sinking ship in 6 games, when it’s been taking on water for the last 3 years.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 19, 2019 6:32:16 GMT
Am I missing something? He looks fine, some dodgy over exposure on the image but it’s just a standard (a bit of a drag, but part of the job) meet the fan photo. Blimey some of the things people read into on this board He looks depressed as sin and like he's aged about 60 years, sorry I didnt pull out my O level photography analysis skills to add further rationale to my assesment. Blimey. Not sure there was a o level in photography. Hardly in depth photography analysis, the unnatural amount of light kinda gives it away. Who knows, he looks ok on all the scfc website shots around the same time
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 6:45:12 GMT
Over dramatic over a friggin picture because he isn't smiling
Jfc
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Post by questionable on Sept 19, 2019 6:51:11 GMT
I had to look a few times as I couldn’t recognise him and yes he looks lost but he’s not without blame, for example what was he thinking with all of his promises, yes a few promises but Christ he put all his eggs firmly in one basket.
I’m still firmly of the opinion that very few of the recent transfers are his doing and he’s basically told where to shop or players are forced upon him by influences within the club.
Every player we sign turns out to be absolutely shit and that’s really hard to do.
Overall it’s a sorry state of affairs but as history has taught us “Lessons learnt” and “what’s all the fuss about”, yes right buffoons the lot of them.
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Sept 19, 2019 6:55:40 GMT
He looks depressed as sin and like he's aged about 60 years, sorry I didnt pull out my O level photography analysis skills to add further rationale to my assesment. Blimey. Not sure there was a o level in photography. Hardly in depth photography analysis, the unnatural amount of light kinda gives it away. Who knows, he looks ok on all the scfc website shots around the same time You say this board reads to much into things on here, but then deconstruct a sarcastic quip regarding photography studies. Ok.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Sept 19, 2019 7:29:56 GMT
Definitely think he's looking a bit "peaky" in this shot in his last press conference My god, there is some tripe posted on this MB! Having said that, there are some cast iron observations: 1. NJ needs to face up - look at the photo in more detail - he’s lost it! 2. Clearly, that is the risk you take when you pop out between training sessions and sneak a tasty pasty from the mobile van up in Burslem. No need to panic, we are playing really well in every respect. Just need to cut out the missed chances, poor tackles, defensive blunders, pissed-off players, inability to last out 90 mins, paper-bag strength of character when going 1-0 up, certainty of conceding at least 2 goals in the last 12 minutes, and the dread of the next defeat. But none of the last paragraph matters. God Wiling, we can scrape a 0-3 on Satdee!
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 19, 2019 7:49:29 GMT
I had to look a few times as I couldn’t recognise him and yes he looks lost but he’s not without blame, for example what was he thinking with all of his promises, yes a few promises but Christ he put all his eggs firmly in one basket. I’m still firmly of the opinion that very few of the recent transfers are his doing and he’s basically told where to shop or players are forced upon him by influences within the club. Every player we sign turns out to be absolutely shit and that’s really hard to do. Overall it’s a sorry state of affairs but as history has taught us “Lessons learnt” and “what’s all the fuss about”, yes right buffoons the lot of them. I don't agree that we only have signed shit players. I actually think most of them are more than good enough for this level, but the problem is tha we haven't clicked as a team. The reason for this I think is NJ's choice of system. I really don't think we at the start of the season had the players needed for the diamond formation. We played well, but got horribly exposed when our wingbacks were attacking and we lost the ball. After 2-3 games NJ then realised this was a problem and started to change formation and players at a frenetic rate. Unfortunately this has led to more havoc and we are now in a dire position. NJ has done his best, but he couldn't in his wildest dreams believe we could end up as badly as right now. Unfortunately this is where we are and to be honest I think both him and the players have started to believe there is no turning back under his tenure. This is why I want the change to come now while Hughton is available, don't wait and miss out!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 8:16:53 GMT
Every word you say abuses him on a personal level, yet you condemn the abuse he gets. Yes that is truly pathetic! C'mon it's just a photograph of a man you haven't seen with glasses on before, who's just had a haircut... Looks like I hit a nerve here with you If what you're accusing me of is pathetic I dread to see what word defines the majority of the drivel you post on here. Enjoy your day I qouted "pathetic" from your own message. What I otherwise write has nothing to do with your above message.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Sept 19, 2019 8:22:52 GMT
Just one on Twitter yesterday,I’ll try and find it This one? Joe 90's let himself go....
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Post by Billy the kid on Sept 19, 2019 8:31:59 GMT
Joe 90's let himself go.... Looking more and more like J Corbyn with every passing week.
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Post by christhepotter on Sept 19, 2019 8:33:55 GMT
If your going to quit , it doesn’t take a week or so to do it neither do you tell people your going do it before you tell your employer
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 19, 2019 10:02:22 GMT
I can totally believe the Allen & Butland situation.
Fair play to Jones if he steps down without a PayOut,
Hes a bit of a shit manager, but he is a nice and honest guy. Its a shame it didnt work out, I really did take a liking to the fella,
Despite this shit results, I wont be a hater of his
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 10:11:07 GMT
Completely disagree. If true he’s left Barnsley on assurances made which don’t sound like they have been “if Butland is going” but “when” Butland goes as they expected Butland to go. Obviously Butland hasn’t gone and there’s not much anyone can do but it’s daft of the club to make assurances to someone they can’t guarantee and yet we’ve see them do similarly daft things before (like giving Bauer a 5 year contract without knowing if the manager wanted him). It doesn’t make him a “child”. Doesn't make him a good keeper either...and what I saw pre-season wasn't too impressive...probably why Federici is ahead of him I agree but that’s another point.
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Post by stokie1947 on Sept 19, 2019 10:25:42 GMT
i will be amazed if he quits but if results don't start to pick up he won't be around much longer i liked the guy when he first came [even though i wanted Cowley before him]loved his enthusiasm and he definitely talked the talk but i am afraid he hasn't walked the walk i wonder how many changes he will make on Saturday not counting Allen 4 at least
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Sept 19, 2019 15:22:49 GMT
Looks like I hit a nerve here with you If what you're accusing me of is pathetic I dread to see what word defines the majority of the drivel you post on here. Enjoy your day I qouted "pathetic" from your own message. What I otherwise write has nothing to do with your above message. LOUD NOISES
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Post by mistergumby on Sept 21, 2019 8:40:03 GMT
Now I'm not saying any of it is 100% correct but because of whom it has come from I have decided to share it, make of it what you will. Nathan Jones is on the verge of quitting and Chris Hughton is lined up to replace him, apparently this is nailed on and will happen very soon (the next week or so). I can't be arsed to go into all the details that I was told but that's the crux of that. Adam Davies has had a massive fall out with Jones as he was promised the no 1 spot in goal but when no one came in for Butland in the summer it pissed on that fire, and Davies threw his toys out of his pram. Butland and Allen had assurances when they signed extended contracts that they if fit they would always be picked for the first team for league matches, this is causing some bitterness in the dressing room as you can imagine. Ryan Woods wants to leave because he doesn't feel like he's being treated fair. Gouranga.
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Post by musik on Sept 21, 2019 9:51:57 GMT
Just one on Twitter yesterday,I’ll try and find it This one? Why voluntarily wearing that tight strait jacket? He just needs a shave and something he could breath in.
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 21, 2019 12:16:17 GMT
There is a fascinating field of beard psychology. Nathan is just pumping out his testerone in the face of an existential challenge. Nothing wrong with growing a beard in the face of that, or on the face. Beards apparantly make people more trustworthy, exuding an impresion of masculinity and power, which are paricularly signals directed at other men rather than women. Bearded men are more likely to commit crimes. And, funnily enough, bearded men also give the impression of being less generous and less caring, and less cheerful. Meanwhile, beards help the wearer grow self confidence. (https://www.theenglishshavingcompany.com/blog/beard-psychology-science. www.bbc.com/future/story/20160418-the-real-reason-men-grow-beards). He wouldn't be the first or last leader or sports icon to grow a beard in the face of a challenge to his territory. Top 3 faves. Top 3: Mike Brearley 1979 Ashes tour of Australia. Greg Chappel, his opposing captain grew one too. (Unfortunately, we lost 3-0, but Brearley's beard was definitely better). #2 Sported since his spell with the U21s, and as he was started to get touted for a bigger job, few would doubt the correlation between our first WC penalty shoot out win and having a manager with a beard like this. #1 Andrea Pirlo after moving to Juventus 2011 grew in summer before, citing he didn't want to waste time shaving. Juve won their first title for 9 years. www.thebeardmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/serie-a-1024x682.jpg
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