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Post by jonnybravo on Sept 17, 2019 23:12:33 GMT
What about 4+4=5 or is he telling the truth?
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Post by stokiekm on Sept 17, 2019 23:31:53 GMT
Lovely bait Albert đđđđđđđđ đ
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Post by musik on Sept 17, 2019 23:35:41 GMT
But ...
what happens after the two away wins, vs Brentford and Crawley?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 23:40:04 GMT
But ... what happens after the two away wins, vs Brentford and Crawley? You come down off the Monkey Dust and realise the two wins were just a dream
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 17, 2019 23:54:55 GMT
But why would Hughton come here? ESP after turning down Wednesday,
How many Pl teams change manager a season? And how many Champs on top.
Surely hed heâd be in the running if Southampton, Villa, Burnley, Palace, Sheffield Utd needed a change. Failing those, Derby, Forest, Fulham, Cardiff might be struggling a bit, but are not basket cases. And thatâs before considering the continent, where I could imagine the erudite and dignified Hughton doing well.
Would be thrilled to bits if this came off, once the shock had worn off.
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Post by jzime on Sept 18, 2019 0:24:05 GMT
Nathan Jones would have to be bonkers to resign. He was a very promising manager with a growing reputation at Luton, but football management is fickle and he might struggle to get work at this level in the future unless he turns it around fast. If he's unable to turn it around, he'll probably have to take a team up before he gets the chance to be a Championship manager again.
In that context, and given the money he's undoubtedly on, why walk? He's under contract here. Just like Hughes when the writing was on the wall as to the direction we were heading, football managers still very rarely resign. It is simply too lucrative to wait until you are sacked because of the nature of the payout you receive.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Sept 18, 2019 2:30:07 GMT
Now I'm not saying any of it is 100% correct but because of whom it has come from I have decided to share it, make of it what you will. Adam Davies has had a massive fall out with Jones as he was promised the no 1 spot in goal but when no one came in for Butland in the summer it pissed on that fire, and Davies threw his toys out of his pram. Butland and Allen had assurances when they signed extended contracts that they if fit they would always be picked for the first team for league matches, this is causing some bitterness in the dressing room as you can imagine. Gouranga. Heard the Davies thing before the international break and thought the contracts thing was common knowledge.
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Sept 18, 2019 5:12:58 GMT
I would say itâs highly likely and having seen a picture of Jones at Leek last night Iâd say heâd be better off out of here because he looks ill I have a friend who works in the mental health profession and he told me the very same thing yesterday
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 18, 2019 5:23:40 GMT
Chris Houghton he would be mad to come to a car crash club like Stoke , his stock would plummet quicker than Woolworths shares đ
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 18, 2019 6:09:47 GMT
I would say itâs highly likely and having seen a picture of Jones at Leek last night Iâd say heâd be better off out of here because he looks ill What picture is this?
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Post by jeycov on Sept 18, 2019 6:12:28 GMT
I would say itâs highly likely and having seen a picture of Jones at Leek last night Iâd say heâd be better off out of here because he looks ill I have a friend who works in the mental health profession and he told me the very same thing yesterday In which case regardless of the state of the club he needs some professional support I really want him to succeed If Jack and co get their move in January so be it We will have to cut our losses (again) and review the club structure, will it happen?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 6:26:08 GMT
About as juicy as a cup of sawdust.
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Post by questionable on Sept 18, 2019 6:26:26 GMT
What about 4+4=5 or is he telling the truth? 3/5/2= 1. Thatâs NJ calculations spot on.
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Post by strangerthingshappen on Sept 18, 2019 6:41:36 GMT
Chris Houghton he would be mad to come to a car crash club like Stoke , his stock would plummet quicker than Woolworths shares đ He would have to be on more crack than the ones who think he will come here thats for sure .......
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Post by Fegg 'Ayes Observer on Sept 18, 2019 6:42:02 GMT
I was talking to Elsie Arkwright the 78 year old grey haired grandmother whoâs the tea lady at the Boothen and she said: âitâs a load of bollocks!â
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 18, 2019 6:45:11 GMT
But why would Hughton come here? ESP after turning down Wednesday, How many Pl teams change manager a season? And how many Champs on top. Surely hed heâd be in the running if Southampton, Villa, Burnley, Palace, Sheffield Utd needed a change. Failing those, Derby, Forest, Fulham, Cardiff might be struggling a bit, but are not basket cases. And thatâs before considering the continent, where I could imagine the erudite and dignified Hughton doing well. Would be thrilled to bits if this came off, once the shock had worn off. Don't think Villa or Burnley would change. Southampton generally look abroad and have a good manager. Palace may well change but are they really going to turn to a bloke with Brighton connections as their first choice? Sheffield Utd maybe, depends how they do and on the ownership situation. Don't see him managing abroad unless he can't find work here. I could certainly see him going to another reasonably sized Championship club but I'd put us very much in that mix.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 18, 2019 6:46:38 GMT
Now I'm not saying any of it is 100% correct but because of whom it has come from I have decided to share it, make of it what you will. Adam Davies has had a massive fall out with Jones as he was promised the no 1 spot in goal but when no one came in for Butland in the summer it pissed on that fire, and Davies threw his toys out of his pram. Butland and Allen had assurances when they signed extended contracts that they if fit they would always be picked for the first team for league matches, this is causing some bitterness in the dressing room as you can imagine. Gouranga. Heard the Davies thing before the international break and thought the contracts thing was common knowledge. Butland didn't sign one, did he? I don't believe the Allen thing either. The Davies thing is plausible, but if it's true it just makes Davies look like a child.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 6:51:53 GMT
Heard the Davies thing before the international break and thought the contracts thing was common knowledge. Butland didn't sign one, did he? I don't believe the Allen thing either. The Davies thing is plausible, but if it's true it just makes Davies look like a child. Completely disagree. If true heâs left Barnsley on assurances made which donât sound like they have been âif Butland is goingâ but âwhenâ Butland goes as they expected Butland to go. Obviously Butland hasnât gone and thereâs not much anyone can do but itâs daft of the club to make assurances to someone they canât guarantee and yet weâve see them do similarly daft things before (like giving Bauer a 5 year contract without knowing if the manager wanted him). It doesnât make him a âchildâ.
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Post by scfc75 on Sept 18, 2019 6:57:38 GMT
Gouranga indeed, Albert.
<nods sagely>
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Post by wuzza on Sept 18, 2019 6:59:12 GMT
Seems a very odd assurance for Butland and Allen to seek. Both are decent intelligent young men who presumably have enough faith in their own ability to be fairly sure they wouldnât come close to being dropped by a club plying itâs trade in the Championship. Just doesnât ring true.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 18, 2019 7:01:53 GMT
Butland didn't sign one, did he? I don't believe the Allen thing either. The Davies thing is plausible, but if it's true it just makes Davies look like a child. Completely disagree. If true heâs left Barnsley on assurances made which donât sound like they have been âif Butland is goingâ but âwhenâ Butland goes as they expected Butland to go. Obviously Butland hasnât gone and thereâs not much anyone can do but itâs daft of the club to make assurances to someone they canât guarantee and yet weâve see them do similarly daft things before (like giving Bauer a 5 year contract without knowing if the manager wanted him). It doesnât make him a âchildâ. A grown up would understand that in life things don't always work out as they're expected to and knuckle down to work/learn from a keeper at the time considered one of the best in the league. Then if his form fell off a cliff (which it did) he'd be in prime position for a run in the side. He's still young in goalkeeper terms and likely wouldn't have to wait long for his chance. There are no guarantees in football. He'd have been told it was extremely likely that Butland would go but if he didn't, Jack was never going to start the season as number 2 was he?
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Post by greystokie on Sept 18, 2019 7:06:22 GMT
Seems a very odd assurance for Butland and Allen to seek. Both are decent intelligent young men who presumably have enough faith in their own ability to be fairly sure they wouldnât come close to being dropped by a club plying itâs trade in the Championship. Just doesnât ring true. Agreed. Particularly as they had already been permanent fixtures in the Premiership line up. I really couldn't see them making such a request as part of their agreement to re-sign.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 18, 2019 7:09:21 GMT
But why would Hughton come here? ESP after turning down Wednesday, How many Pl teams change manager a season? And how many Champs on top. Surely hed heâd be in the running if Southampton, Villa, Burnley, Palace, Sheffield Utd needed a change. Failing those, Derby, Forest, Fulham, Cardiff might be struggling a bit, but are not basket cases. And thatâs before considering the continent, where I could imagine the erudite and dignified Hughton doing well. Would be thrilled to bits if this came off, once the shock had worn off. Don't think Villa or Burnley would change. Southampton generally look abroad and have a good manager. Palace may well change but are they really going to turn to a bloke with Brighton connections as their first choice? Sheffield Utd maybe, depends how they do and on the ownership situation. Don't see him managing abroad unless he can't find work here. I could certainly see him going to another reasonably sized Championship club but I'd put us very much in that mix. Yeah - I think you're down to Bournemouth, Palace, Villa, Norwich, Newcastle, Burnley and Sheff Utd that would even give that profile the time of day. Of them, can see Villa, Norwich, Sheff Utd sticking even if they go down - the managers are just far too popular and we're miles from that point anyway. So that leaves Bournemouth (Howe's still got tons of credit) - then Palace, Newcastle and Burnley as possibles - if they were in dire straits. And can't imagine Burnley would sack Dyche even if they go down. So he's basically down to a return to Newcastle or Palace should things get disastrous - and can't see either having him on their shortlist. Then he's down to the Championship - and anything that comes up will involve a team who's in the shit (although ideally not as much shit as we're in, but as he admitted, managers like him have to lump it) from July..
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Post by sheds1862 on Sept 18, 2019 7:09:23 GMT
The word ' gossip ' in the title tells you everything you need to know .
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Post by geoff321 on Sept 18, 2019 7:10:35 GMT
As results under Nathan are so grim why don't the owners sack him now?
I suspect they are still hoping he can turn this round and a draw or win at Brentford keeps him in a job for now.
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Post by StaffordPotter on Sept 18, 2019 7:18:32 GMT
Believe it when it happens.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 7:34:42 GMT
Completely disagree. If true heâs left Barnsley on assurances made which donât sound like they have been âif Butland is goingâ but âwhenâ Butland goes as they expected Butland to go. Obviously Butland hasnât gone and thereâs not much anyone can do but itâs daft of the club to make assurances to someone they canât guarantee and yet weâve see them do similarly daft things before (like giving Bauer a 5 year contract without knowing if the manager wanted him). It doesnât make him a âchildâ. A grown up would understand that in life things don't always work out as they're expected to and knuckle down to work/learn from a keeper at the time considered one of the best in the league. Then if his form fell off a cliff (which it did) he'd be in prime position for a run in the side. He's still young in goalkeeper terms and likely wouldn't have to wait long for his chance. There are no guarantees in football. He'd have been told it was extremely likely that Butland would go but if he didn't, Jack was never going to start the season as number 2 was he? Well yes if theyâve not said heâll be going then itâs his risk but it wouldnât surprise if theyâve just gone yes yes of course Jack with go because we have a history of doing daft things. If they have given their word then heâs every right to pissed off because anyone would be.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 7:48:54 GMT
How the fuck is a thread made by Albert not in the shitbin within 48 hours...
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 18, 2019 7:55:45 GMT
How the fuck is a thread made by Albert not in the shitbin within 48 hours... Admin feels sorry for him, they're letting him have this one.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Sept 18, 2019 7:56:07 GMT
'I heard a rumour'
'Someone close to the club'
'Someone who works at the club'
It all means the same doesn't it?
Complete bollocks.
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