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Post by werrington on Sept 17, 2019 5:58:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 6:17:59 GMT
Super news.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 6:25:50 GMT
Don't rush him back. Be sure he's 100% (or as close to when you're that footballing age and body) fit; he will be enormously welcomed back to the team, but if he plays when not fully fit, it could backfire, and then he'll missing even longer.
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Post by hyaduck on Sept 17, 2019 6:36:12 GMT
Too slow, My option so don’t shoot the messenger
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Post by Davef on Sept 17, 2019 7:03:38 GMT
Too slow, My option so don’t shoot the messenger If you don't want your opinion challenged, don't give it on a public forum. |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 17, 2019 7:34:00 GMT
Too slow, My option so don’t shoot the messenger He’s better than any of our defenders even with a broken ankle. Shawcross plays and we wouldn’t have thrown some of the games we have played away. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 7:42:36 GMT
Boy oh boy have we missed Ryan.
The sooner he is back the better.......
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 17, 2019 7:46:17 GMT
Too slow, My option so don’t shoot the messenger Any last requests? |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 17, 2019 8:01:45 GMT
Anyone who having watched our first 7 games, can shoehorn a negative out of this news, is ever so slightly bonkers.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 17, 2019 8:08:18 GMT
Have people underestimated Ryan's leadership skills and influence on the team?... judging by the start to the season, I'd say so.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 8:16:13 GMT
Have people underestimated Ryan's leadership skills and influence on the team?... judging by the start to the season, I'd say so. Yes in a nutshell..... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 8:32:43 GMT
Too slow, My option so don’t shoot the messenger Famous last words. Look, we're not going to get the Ryan at 21-27 back. But we need someone who can organise the things at the back. One of the drawbacks of us playing five at the back, almost regardless of which personnel we've used, is that everybody seems to expect the other guy to make the all important tackle or block and who covers whom and who marks and who heads. At the moment it's to each his own. But Ryan will make his mistakes too, so we'd do well not to think just he will turn the corner for us. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 9:44:25 GMT
Too slow, My option so don’t shoot the messenger Famous last words. Look, we're not going to get the Ryan at 21-27 back. But we need someone who can organise the things at the back. One of the drawbacks of us playing five at the back, almost regardless of which personnel we've used, is that everybody seems to expect the other guy to make the all important tackle or block and who covers whom and who marks and who heads. At the moment it's to each his own. But Ryan will make his mistakes too, so we'd do well not to think just he will turn the corner for us. Collins looks like an organiser ......where is he,injured or has Jones decided he's a worse player than the current incumbents ? |
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 17, 2019 10:09:35 GMT
Hopeful indicators re Ryan. We can now start planning and building for next season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 11:12:30 GMT
Famous last words. Look, we're not going to get the Ryan at 21-27 back. But we need someone who can organise the things at the back. One of the drawbacks of us playing five at the back, almost regardless of which personnel we've used, is that everybody seems to expect the other guy to make the all important tackle or block and who covers whom and who marks and who heads. At the moment it's to each his own. But Ryan will make his mistakes too, so we'd do well not to think just he will turn the corner for us. Collins looks like an organiser ......where is he,injured or has Jones decided he's a worse player than the current incumbents ? You tell me but he played for the Academy yesterday. |
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Post by wuzza on Sept 17, 2019 11:27:25 GMT
It’s good news but like everyone at the club in the past few years - he gets better the longer he isn’t playing.
I’d love to think a single player could turn things round here but even a legend like Ryan can’t work miracles.
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Post by Godo on Sept 17, 2019 23:07:41 GMT
I think Ryan is a hero but......did none of you witness 75% of his performances over the previous 30 months? Slow, hesitant and positionally suspect. If we are relying on Ryan to save the day then we'd better start planning for Div 1.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 23:24:23 GMT
I think Ryan is a hero but......did none of you witness 75% of his performances over the previous 30 months? Slow, hesitant and positionally suspect. If we are relying on Ryan to save the day then we'd better start planning for Div 1. Not as slow, hesitant and positionally suspect (and generally useless) as everyone else we have though! Literally he is our only hope. Don't take this hope away from everyone! |
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Post by musik on Sept 17, 2019 23:30:20 GMT
Let's play four in defence.
And Shawcross and Collins in central position.
Week in and week out.
For stability.
Dec 10th?
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 17, 2019 23:31:37 GMT
I think it would be a case of ironically completing the circle, that even if Ryan returned for the New Year, we might be in such a decline that our destination for next season is League 1. Ryan effectively started our ascent to glory in 2007, and it would be sad if his career with us finally faded in company with the club. With us when we went up. with us on the way down.
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 17, 2019 23:58:31 GMT
Sounds like Jones is cashing in his miracles.
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 18, 2019 6:13:58 GMT
Too slow, My option so don’t shoot the messenger He’s better than any of our defenders even with a broken ankle. Shawcross plays and we wouldn’t have thrown some of the games we have played away. We certainly wouldn’t have lost to two crosses into the box at the weekend |
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Post by hyaduck on Sept 18, 2019 6:17:28 GMT
If Shawcross is the answer we're well and truly in the shit.
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 18, 2019 7:19:00 GMT
Too slow, My option so don’t shoot the messenger One of the great recurring misconceptions on here is that Ryan is too slow. |
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Post by hyaduck on Sept 18, 2019 7:21:50 GMT
Too slow, My option so don’t shoot the messenger One of the great recurring misconceptions on here is that Ryan is too slow. He is though |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 18, 2019 8:52:42 GMT
If Shawcross is the answer we're well and truly in the shit. Welcome back Rip Van Ginkel. Whilst you've been asleep I think you'll find we ARE well and truly in the shit. Anyway you've had a few nibbles with that bait so well done. |
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Post by foster on Sept 18, 2019 9:14:53 GMT
Before his injury people were calling for him to be dropped as he was becoming a liability.
Now he's nearly back he's being heralded as a saviour only because our results have been wanker than wank.
I don't believe a returning from injury Shawcross will make the difference. I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 9:18:28 GMT
Too slow, My option so don’t shoot the messenger You’re not the messenger if it’s your opinion (or “option”??). A messenger takes the message from someone else and simply delivers it. This is your message. |
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Post by RF10 on Sept 18, 2019 9:25:35 GMT
Fingers crossed. I don't think we would have been where we are in table with him starting every game. As a single example the Preston game he most certainly would have cleared the header not letting the ball bounce which then led to the Butland mistake.
The lack of command at the back currently is a major issue. Too many balls not being claimed for either by defender clearing lines or Butland not shouting a claim. You could even argue Butland could have come and collected the crosses which led to both goals on Saturday. Something which Tommy Sorenson used to be fantastic at.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 18, 2019 10:49:30 GMT
I can't see him being back before Christmas but those people saying we don't miss him are deluded. He is our fastest defender, a bit suspect when he has to turn quickly I would grant but would to quote Jones "run over his own granny" to prevent a goal unlike some of our lily livered defenders. Most of all what we miss is his organisation of the team. The only player I have seen trying to organise people this season so far was Badou last Saturday.
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