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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 15, 2019 19:14:04 GMT
We’re in massive trouble mate and I’m convinced not many of our fans realise this Worse still, I'm not sure they really care. Apathy reigns. I haven't even looked at the league table. I'm fairly resigned to this shit now. Yes you’re probably right Dave although I thought the crowd were brilliant yesterday.I just don’t see any light at the end of the tunnel mate
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 15, 2019 19:16:20 GMT
Worse still, I'm not sure they really care. Apathy reigns. I haven't even looked at the league table. I'm fairly resigned to this shit now. Yes you’re probably right Dave although I thought the crowd were brilliant yesterday.I just don’t see any light at the end of the tunnel mate I didn't go so I wouldn't know how good or bad the crowd were as there was no sound on the stream I watched. Even then, I only saw 2nd half
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 15, 2019 19:19:11 GMT
Yes you’re probably right Dave although I thought the crowd were brilliant yesterday.I just don’t see any light at the end of the tunnel mate I didn't go so I wouldn't know how good or bad the crowd were as there was no sound on the stream I watched. Even then, I only saw 2nd half Dreadful defending for their goals
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 15, 2019 19:20:40 GMT
I didn't go so I wouldn't know how good or bad the crowd were as there was no sound on the stream I watched. Even then, I only saw 2nd half Dreadful defending for their goals Indeed. Not seen a replay of 2nd goal yet but its desperately disappointing and sadly entirely predictable.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 15, 2019 19:37:00 GMT
About 48/117. I will start panicking in three matches time if we don't have 5 points. I'm already panicking and can't wait to see Jones go. He seems a nice guy who has tried his best, but it's there for everyone to see that he isn't up for it. Make the change NOW!
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Post by emery1985 on Sept 15, 2019 21:49:29 GMT
What are the chances of us ‘doing a derby’? Also what’s the lowest points tally in a championship season? 🤔 The lowest points tally in a Championship season was by Rotherham ... 23 points in 2016/17. After 7 games they had accumulated 6 points. Crikey.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 15, 2019 22:06:57 GMT
It's okay "berahinosgoals" is convinced Jones is....not only the man to keep us up, but the man to lead us on to the promised land (Premier league)!!!
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Post by kustokie on Sept 15, 2019 22:35:32 GMT
Based on the average points total of the team finishing above the relegation zone over last 5 years in the Championship we need another 46 points from 39 games to be sure of staying up. If you base this prediction on the Average, there’s roughly only a 50% probability of staying up. A more important number is the largest number of points that a team earned and still got relegated. I imagine it’s probably more like 51 - 53 to be sure.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 15, 2019 22:40:53 GMT
Imagine spending £60million on a Championship side and worrying about enough points to stay up...
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Post by malisastokie on Sept 15, 2019 23:25:50 GMT
I don’t think for one minute the Coates family don’t care or are not worried by our situation.
Last weeks show of support for Jones was a clear sign they are concerned and it was as much as there is not much time and patience left as support.
I can’t say they played well on Saturday when they defended like schoolboys.
Nor do I criticise McClean for letting those balls get to the far post because he is not a fullback.
I criticise the manager for picking him in that role, I don’t care if Jones was let down and we did not get him a left back. Just put 4 centre half’s across the back and kick any winger who wants to run around you into the bottom tier of the stand.
It’s time for desperate defending to keep clean sheets
And
No I am not the capped ones love child .
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Post by matelot1996 on Sept 15, 2019 23:29:15 GMT
What is the lowest Championship points tally after 10 games. It’s inconceivable we could beat this record, surely?
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 15, 2019 23:30:03 GMT
Based on the average points total of the team finishing above the relegation zone over last 5 years in the Championship we need another 46 points from 39 games to be sure of staying up. If you base this prediction on the Average, there’s roughly only a 50% probability of staying up. A more important number is the largest number of points that a team earned and still got relegated. I imagine it’s probably more like 51 - 53 to be sure. In 2012/13 Peterborough got 54 and still got relegated there are several examples of teams getting 50 plus and getting relegated in the last 20 years
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 15, 2019 23:36:46 GMT
What is the lowest Championship points tally after 10 games. It’s inconceivable we could beat this record, surely? The lowest I have found is Blackpool in 2014/15 who had 3 points after 10 games. Coincidentally they had 1 point after 7 games. They finished bottom with 26 points
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Post by matelot1996 on Sept 15, 2019 23:42:11 GMT
What is the lowest Championship points tally after 10 games. It’s inconceivable we could beat this record, surely? The lowest I have found is Blackpool in 2014/15 who had 3 points after 10 games. Coincidentally they had 1 point after 7 games. They finished bottom with 26 points Oh Fuck. We might “beat” that. How depressing.
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Post by musik on Sept 15, 2019 23:53:36 GMT
80 play off
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2019 1:10:01 GMT
I have discovered 1 ray of hope!
In 2014/15 Fulham had only 1 point after 7 games and finished 17th with 52 points and they also lost the 8th game, then winning the 9th and 10th
Having said that there are only 4 examples of teams having just 1 point from the first 7 games in the last 15 seasons and 3 of them have been relegated
Peterborough in 2012/13 had 1 point after 7 games but got relegated with 54 points Doncaster had 1 point after 7 games in 2011/12 also got relegated Millwall had 1 point in 2005/06 ... got relegated
There are examples of clubs staying up after having point deductions i.e Birmingham and Crystal Palace 2009/10 (managed by Paul Hart!!)
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Post by kustokie on Sept 16, 2019 1:12:25 GMT
If you base this prediction on the Average, there’s roughly only a 50% probability of staying up. A more important number is the largest number of points that a team earned and still got relegated. I imagine it’s probably more like 51 - 53 to be sure. In 2012/13 Peterborough got 54 and still got relegated there are several examples of teams getting 50 plus and getting relegated in the last 20 years Then my guess was about right. 53 is should be the target or 52 in 39, which is 1.33 points per game. Easily doable if he picks the right team and formation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 1:51:55 GMT
I’m more or less convinced that it will now be the latter, and next years itinerary features trips to Fleetwood, Doncaster etc. And potentially, god forbid, port facking vale. Honestly, if we find ourselves playing a league potteries derby next year then a few people should be literally guillotined.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 16, 2019 2:05:08 GMT
The lowest points tally in a Championship season was by Rotherham ... 23 points in 2016/17. After 7 games they had accumulated 6 points. We’re in massive trouble mate and I’m convinced not many of our fans realise this Too many people with blind faith, just like Jones.
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Post by Davef on Sept 16, 2019 10:58:11 GMT
The last two teams to be on one point from seven games in the Championship were Fulham and Blackpool in 2014/15.
Fulham sacked Felix Magath after their seventh game, replaced him with Kit Symons and eventually stayed up with 52 points.
Blackpool were just a mess and went down with 26 points.
42 points were enough for safety that season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 11:21:31 GMT
Has anyone got faith in this squad of players? I haven't! I'm now clinging to the hope, that Badou and Etebo playing in midfield can get us out of this mess. I would also persist with Gregory and Hogan up front, if they're both fit.
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Post by BuckRogers on Sept 16, 2019 11:52:42 GMT
Has anyone won promotion, after only one point from their first seven games? 🙄 In the championship
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Post by georgieboy52 on Sept 16, 2019 12:50:40 GMT
No.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2019 12:55:12 GMT
Has anyone won promotion, after only one point from their first seven games? 🙄 In the championship The highest anyone has finished from this start is 17th. All others have been relegated
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Post by Veritas on Sept 17, 2019 12:58:10 GMT
Has anyone won promotion, after only one point from their first seven games? 🙄 In the championship The highest anyone has finished from this start is 17th. All others have been relegated Right now 17th would do me.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 17, 2019 13:24:37 GMT
Sunderland had five points from seven games when they were relegated a couple of seasons ago. Not looking good then, quite frightening infact.
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Post by thestatusquo on Sept 17, 2019 13:48:02 GMT
What’s the problem??
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Post by mcw on Sept 17, 2019 13:56:10 GMT
I'm beyond even thinking about it as it is too depressing to contemplate. My sole wish at this point in time is to see a sodding win again some time soon and be able to actually come off the ground feeling lifted rather than completely and utterly deflated. Saturday's have become synonymous with a feeling in your stomach as though you are doing a set of exams whilst you are watching the game- shitting yourself even if we are 1-0 up knowing that something utterly bizarre, an individual error or capitulation is on the cards at any given moment.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Sept 17, 2019 13:58:53 GMT
Just for balance, in 2006-07 Sunderland lost their first 4 league games, were bottom of the table in August and finished the season as Champions.
It's a strange league.
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Post by mcw on Sept 17, 2019 14:19:01 GMT
Was that the season Roy Keane was their manager? If so then I think they appointed him and then it was like chalk and cheese from August onwards?
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