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Post by stokiekm on Sept 17, 2019 21:14:50 GMT
FFS yet another Jones out bore fest
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Sept 18, 2019 8:19:47 GMT
No it isn't. Fulham, Wolves, Norwich, Sheffield United and Aston Villa did it in just the last couple of seasons. , It didn't work with GR and it isn't working with NJ at the moment. To say they weren't "qualified" for the job is ludicrous though. Are Swansea daft by the same criteria? If so, they're second in the league at the moment. Your argument doesn't stand up. You've dug yourself into a bit of a hole here mate. No I haven't. Fulham, Norwich and Sheff Utd all spent at least 4 years in the Championship before they went back up and went through numerous managers (Villa 3 years before they got promoted, Wolves new owners changed all the processes at the club as well as hiring an experienced manager. Who has hired a League One manager half way through season to make a bid for promotion and done it or even got promoted the next year? Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. The irony of referring to Aston Villa as an example, is that surely by your criteria of being "qualified", Steve Bruce is more "qualified" than Dean Smith. One is a former Premier league Manager promoted from the Championship twice before, one is a bloke who did well in League 1 with Walsall and never even made the play-offs with Brentford in the Championship. Again, by your criteria, how was the Wolves manager "experienced"? He'd never managed in England, let alone had a track record of delivering promotion from the Championship! Also, wasn't it only Sheffield United's second season in the Championship after promotion from League 1 with Wilder? In fact, the more I think about it, the more I think that you saying that neither Rowett or Jones was "qualified" for the Stoke job is a load of tosh. Just get a bit tired of people bashing the club without foundation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 10:34:38 GMT
No I haven't. Fulham, Norwich and Sheff Utd all spent at least 4 years in the Championship before they went back up and went through numerous managers (Villa 3 years before they got promoted, Wolves new owners changed all the processes at the club as well as hiring an experienced manager. Who has hired a League One manager half way through season to make a bid for promotion and done it or even got promoted the next year? Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. The irony of referring to Aston Villa as an example, is that surely by your criteria of being "qualified", Steve Bruce is more "qualified" than Dean Smith. One is a former Premier league Manager promoted from the Championship twice before, one is a bloke who did well in League 1 with Walsall and never even made the play-offs with Brentford in the Championship. Again, by your criteria, how was the Wolves manager "experienced"? He'd never managed in England, let alone had a track record of delivering promotion from the Championship! Also, wasn't it only Sheffield United's second season in the Championship after promotion from League 1 with Wilder? In fact, the more I think about it, the more I think that you saying that neither Rowett or Jones was "qualified" for the Stoke job is a load of tosh. Just get a bit tired of people bashing the club without foundation. Let’s agree to disagree then. As I said Wolves hires a whole new team and overhauled it’s recruitment. We’ve done nothing of the sort. Saying Dean Smith did it with Villa and not Brentford is hardly fair given we all know how Brentford operates selling its best players for profit after developing them. It’s not bashing the club to point out Gary Rowett has never had £50m before and Jones hadn’t managed in the league before. I’m not a fan of either of them but they should have had more bloody support than they did if that’s what they were expecting of them. Not Mark Cartwright and Tony Scholes.
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