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Post by vokeswagen on Sept 11, 2019 10:07:21 GMT
Jimmy Saville was given one for for charitable services. In hindsight, should he still have got one too? Dear oh dear That’s clutching at straws a bit like your opinion on brexit Not much of a yes or no answer
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 11, 2019 10:29:24 GMT
In fairness, he did not say that and most of the reporters should be ashamed too for saying that he did. Yes he did. He said it on the Today program on Tuesday. & he’s said in the past that he’d have more chance of a gong if he “Blacked Myself Up” I’m afraid there is no getting over the fact that Geoffrey is a cnut. You only have to listen to TMS to know that. He's ace.
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Post by M on Sept 11, 2019 10:52:43 GMT
There's no possible reason to bring Jimmy fucking Saville into this. Well that depends if you are taking in to consideration a persons personal life and what they do to be considered for these titles. Waga was, so... If we draw a line with one saying that their personal failings don't matter we have to draw that line with all, so Jimmy et all are good for inclusion. Domestic abuse isn't cool either though and rightly illegal. My opinion is simple. If they are good law abiding citizens then crack on. If they're not, why the fuck should they get these titles? Actually, that's not my opinion really. They (titles) should all be scrapped but they aren't.
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Post by marwood on Sept 11, 2019 13:14:07 GMT
In fairness, he did not say that and most of the reporters should be ashamed too for saying that he did. He said it on the Today programme, quite clearly, and was obviously broadsided by the reference to his domestically violent past he said it in reference to the Chief Executive of Womens Aid - and her views - theres an audio clip of it on the BBc website
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 11, 2019 13:34:40 GMT
Should a man with a conviction (1988) for Domestic Violence be given a Knighthood for his services to Cricket? No. Honours should be for the deserving only (i.e. not for the vast majority who get them). If since 1988 he had campaigned and devoted lots of his life to campaigning against domestic violence and he had made a big difference as a result, then maybe he would deserve the honour.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Sept 11, 2019 13:42:04 GMT
Should a man with a conviction (1988) for Domestic Violence be given a Knighthood for his services to Cricket? No. Honours should be for the deserving only (i.e. not for the vast majority who get them). If since 1988 he had campaigned and devoted lots of his life to campaigning against domestic violence and he had made a big difference as a result, then maybe he would deserve the honour. He might be a vile pompous self-righteous bloke, after all he is from Yorkshire, but he is also the greatest batsman England has ever produced. In my opinion, his Knighthood is long overdue.
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 11, 2019 13:45:41 GMT
No. Honours should be for the deserving only (i.e. not for the vast majority who get them). If since 1988 he had campaigned and devoted lots of his life to campaigning against domestic violence and he had made a big difference as a result, then maybe he would deserve the honour. He might be a vile pompous self-righteous bloke, after all he is from Yorkshire, but he is also the greatest batsman England has ever produced. In my opinion, his Knighthood is long overdue. It depends. If it is purely on cricket then yes. But that means a cricketing paedophile could potentially be knighted if you are to entirely disregard everything other than cricket.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Sept 11, 2019 13:53:12 GMT
He might be a vile pompous self-righteous bloke, after all he is from Yorkshire, but he is also the greatest batsman England has ever produced. In my opinion, his Knighthood is long overdue. It depends. If it is purely on cricket then yes. But that means a cricketing paedophile could potentially be knighted if you are to entirely disregard everything other than cricket. Yes, that's a good point. Is wife beating less bad than child abuse etc? Can his achievement in sport be detached from other less salubrious aspects of his behaviour.? One for the Legal experts? He was tried in a French Court, wasn't he?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 19:14:05 GMT
In fairness, he did not say that and most of the reporters should be ashamed too for saying that he did. Yes he did. He said it on the Today program on Tuesday. & he’s said in the past that he’d have more chance of a gong if he “Blacked Myself Up” I’m afraid there is no getting over the fact that Geoffrey is a cnut. You only have to listen to TMS to know that. No he did not, maybe you need to clean your ears out... if you listen to it, he says "I don't care a toss about her love" he does not say "I don't give a toss about her love". Small point, but true, skip to the 01:15 mark, and listen for yourself www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/geoffrey-boycott-knighthood-domestic-abuse-womens-aid-radio-4-a9098691.html
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Sept 11, 2019 19:28:14 GMT
It depends. If it is purely on cricket then yes. But that means a cricketing paedophile could potentially be knighted if you are to entirely disregard everything other than cricket. Yes, that's a good point. Is wife beating less bad than child abuse etc? Can his achievement in sport be detached from other less salubrious aspects of his behaviour.? One for the Legal experts? He was tried in a French Court, wasn't he? If trying to look at comparing the two offences then surely the easiest way is to compare the sentence involved for each?
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 11, 2019 19:37:19 GMT
Yes he did. He said it on the Today program on Tuesday. & he’s said in the past that he’d have more chance of a gong if he “Blacked Myself Up” I’m afraid there is no getting over the fact that Geoffrey is a cnut. You only have to listen to TMS to know that. No he did not, maybe you need to clean your ears out... if you listen to it, he says "I don't care a toss about her love" he does not say "I don't give a toss about her love". Small point, but true, skip to the 01:15 mark, and listen for yourself www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/geoffrey-boycott-knighthood-domestic-abuse-womens-aid-radio-4-a9098691.htmlSemantics. Listening to Boycott is like reading eebygum. It’s open to interpretation, but he’s still a cnut in any language Edit: That’s Boycott, not eebygumXx
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Post by potterenfrance on Sept 11, 2019 19:49:23 GMT
He's a brief lol
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Post by potterenfrance on Sept 11, 2019 19:49:34 GMT
Bellend lol
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Sept 11, 2019 21:36:17 GMT
If trying to look at comparing the two offences then surely the easiest way is to compare the sentence involved for each? Different countries have different Legal Systems. Ok so when he is offered a knighthood in Macedonia we can look into their legal system yeah?
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 11, 2019 21:51:55 GMT
No. Honours should be for the deserving only (i.e. not for the vast majority who get them). If since 1988 he had campaigned and devoted lots of his life to campaigning against domestic violence and he had made a big difference as a result, then maybe he would deserve the honour. He might be a vile pompous self-righteous bloke, after all he is from Yorkshire, but he is also the greatest batsman England has ever produced. In my opinion, his Knighthood is long overdue. Not the best, not even top 3 for me.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Sept 11, 2019 21:56:02 GMT
Different countries have different Legal Systems. Ok so when he is offered a knighthood in Macedonia we can look into their legal system yeah? I don't think Macedonia hand out Knighthoods.
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Post by eebygum on Sept 11, 2019 22:52:37 GMT
T' reason none o' theur goblins will gerr eur knighthood is 'a' thas onny 'alf art o' bed.
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Post by eebygum on Sept 11, 2019 22:55:02 GMT
No. Honours should be for the deserving only (i.e. not for the vast majority who get them). If since 1988 he had campaigned and devoted lots of his life to campaigning against domestic violence and he had made a big difference as a result, then maybe he would deserve the honour. He might be a vile pompous self-righteous bloke, after all he is from Yorkshire, but he is also the greatest batsman England has ever produced. In my opinion, his Knighthood is long overdue. Wha' t' fuk is dis utta dog rubbish o' an opinion then?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 12, 2019 8:07:37 GMT
Great Cricketer,wish we had one like him now,but does he deserve a Knighthood? I would say no.
Knighthoods should be to people who have changed peoples lives for the good.
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Post by marwood on Sept 12, 2019 11:58:32 GMT
Yes he did. He said it on the Today program on Tuesday. & he’s said in the past that he’d have more chance of a gong if he “Blacked Myself Up” I’m afraid there is no getting over the fact that Geoffrey is a cnut. You only have to listen to TMS to know that. No he did not, maybe you need to clean your ears out... if you listen to it, he says "I don't care a toss about her love" he does not say "I don't give a toss about her love". Small point, but true, skip to the 01:15 mark, and listen for yourself www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/geoffrey-boycott-knighthood-domestic-abuse-womens-aid-radio-4-a9098691.htmlI stand corrected. Its a small but important difference. I listened to it live and parts of me were laughing. I agree that the way in which the media misrepresented the quote was clickbait - designed to make it look like he found the criticism (or indeed wifebeating) non Toss-worthy
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 12, 2019 13:36:12 GMT
Yes he did. He said it on the Today program on Tuesday. & he’s said in the past that he’d have more chance of a gong if he “Blacked Myself Up” I’m afraid there is no getting over the fact that Geoffrey is a cnut. You only have to listen to TMS to know that. No he did not, maybe you need to clean your ears out... if you listen to it, he says "I don't care a toss about her love" he does not say "I don't give a toss about her love". Small point, but true, skip to the 01:15 mark, and listen for yourself www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/geoffrey-boycott-knighthood-domestic-abuse-womens-aid-radio-4-a9098691.htmlThat’s even worse. Talks bu!!$#!t about the French legal system, stating that,”Your guilty unless proven innocent” Comes over as a thoroughly reprehensible being, love!
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