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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 10, 2019 19:04:52 GMT
There will be Stoke games to watch and things to speak in foreseeable future, regardless of what league are we playing in. There will be also some ups around the corner despite of the current downs. What I'm trying to say that we should not be too fixated to play in the Prem again because that'll only take enjoyment out of supporting Stoke now. We shouldn't be living in the past or in the future... we are now in the Championship and despite of playing pretty badly we will be certainly not without drama this season. And we do have also lot to play for so the excitement will be there. Perhaps accepting where we are now and what we are playing for would also take some pressure of the players and manager and therefore could create a better atmosphere in and around the club resulting eventually better performance on the pitch too. Can I just ask you stokesupporter,are you from outside the uk? Yes, I watch 40+ Stoke matches per season though, and have been supporter since late 70's.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 11, 2019 9:12:29 GMT
Agree. I think some fans only followed stoke from the premiership onwards, to them championship football is a pointless exercise, its of no interest to them. It's exactly the case that these miserable sorts are draining the fun out of the season for everybody else because mark my words, they wont stop kicking and screaming until, if & when we're promoted. Hopefully though they will get bored and disappear soon. The rush to go back to the prem and get our arses served to us on a plate every week is what exactly? God forbid that we want the best and to be in the top flight. What kind of an attitude is yours?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 11, 2019 9:43:20 GMT
Agree. I think some fans only followed stoke from the premiership onwards, to them championship football is a pointless exercise, its of no interest to them. It's exactly the case that these miserable sorts are draining the fun out of the season for everybody else because mark my words, they wont stop kicking and screaming until, if & when we're promoted. Hopefully though they will get bored and disappear soon. The rush to go back to the prem and get our arses served to us on a plate every week is what exactly? God forbid that we want the best and to be in the top flight. What kind of an attitude is yours? So do all clubs supporters, are they hysterical in criticising everything and anything about their club repeatedly and often in heightened exaggeration? No, are they fuck. There is constructive criticism and then there is outright child screaming his head off until the rollercoaster stops and they can get off style criticisim. That's the category you fall into, along with plenty of others.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Sept 11, 2019 10:02:04 GMT
God forbid that we want the best and to be in the top flight. What kind of an attitude is yours? So do all clubs supporters, are they hysterical in criticising everything and anything about their club repeatedly and often in heightened exaggeration? No, are they fuck. There is constructive criticism and then there is outright child screaming his head off until the rollercoaster stops and they can get off style criticisim. That's the category you fall into, along with plenty of others. I think you'll find that most message boards across the country turn into the same kind of place as this currently is when those clubs are a fucking shambles as well. This idea that it's exclusively a SCFC thing and all other fans of other clubs just offer constructive criticism is bullshit. It's how football fans are all over the world, you're just trying to make it seem far more dramatic than it is with your use of hyperbole. Why is it "hysterical" to be fucked off with a club that's in the state we are? It's perfectly rational to most people who aren't just burying their heads in the sand. "What's all the fuss about?"
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 11, 2019 10:15:06 GMT
So do all clubs supporters, are they hysterical in criticising everything and anything about their club repeatedly and often in heightened exaggeration? No, are they fuck. There is constructive criticism and then there is outright child screaming his head off until the rollercoaster stops and they can get off style criticisim. That's the category you fall into, along with plenty of others. I think you'll find that most message boards across the country turn into the same kind of place as this currently is when those clubs are a fucking shambles as well. This idea that it's exclusively a SCFC thing and all other fans of other clubs just offer constructive criticism is bullshit. It's how football fans are all over the world, you're just trying to make it seem far more dramatic than it is with your use of hyperbole. Why is it "hysterical" to be fucked off with a club that's in the state we are? It's perfectly rational to most people who aren't just burying their heads in the sand. "What's all the fuss about?" Not like this place s-o-t, there is something in the water around these parts. If these people that radically post negative shit consistently are really so so bothered, and things are so so bad why dont they use their energy to organise a protest at the game instead of consistently peddling their shite day after day? That joker bayern has just posted we have let 2 better strikers leave the club than hogan & gregory, I take it he is on about afobe, the same afobe he has been slagging off and people were dying to get rid of. If we had kept him he would be moaning he is still here. If the shoe fits...
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 11, 2019 10:23:54 GMT
Can I just ask you stokesupporter,are you from outside the uk? Yes, I watch 40+ Stoke matches per season though, and have been supporter since late 70's. I take it you don't attend games ? it's easier to take watching the shit served up from the comfort of your armchair, try sitting in that freezing cold lego kit that is the Bet 365 paying through the nose for warm beer and food barely fit for human consumption, watching a rag tag bunch of players who either don't give a fuck or are so shit they should not be here playing for a manager who couldn't pick his nose let alone the best team, plus paying for the privilege ! "What's all the fuss about"
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 11, 2019 10:25:47 GMT
I think you'll find that most message boards across the country turn into the same kind of place as this currently is when those clubs are a fucking shambles as well. This idea that it's exclusively a SCFC thing and all other fans of other clubs just offer constructive criticism is bullshit. It's how football fans are all over the world, you're just trying to make it seem far more dramatic than it is with your use of hyperbole. Why is it "hysterical" to be fucked off with a club that's in the state we are? It's perfectly rational to most people who aren't just burying their heads in the sand. "What's all the fuss about?" Not like this place s-o-t, there is something in the water around these parts. If these people that radically post negative shit consistently are really so so bothered, and things are so so bad why dont they use their energy to organise a protest at the game instead of consistently peddling their shite day after day? That joker bayern has just posted we have let 2 better strikers leave the club than hogan & gregory, I take it he is on about afobe, the same afobe he has been slagging off and people were dying to get rid of. If we had kept him he would be moaning he is still here. If the shoe fits... Why do you reckon Afobe is playing well and scoring goals at Bristol ? is it the fans fault or the manager for not playing to his strengths ?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 11, 2019 10:28:05 GMT
Not like this place s-o-t, there is something in the water around these parts. If these people that radically post negative shit consistently are really so so bothered, and things are so so bad why dont they use their energy to organise a protest at the game instead of consistently peddling their shite day after day? That joker bayern has just posted we have let 2 better strikers leave the club than hogan & gregory, I take it he is on about afobe, the same afobe he has been slagging off and people were dying to get rid of. If we had kept him he would be moaning he is still here. If the shoe fits... Why do you reckon Afobe is playing well and scoring goals at Bristol ? is it the fans fault or the manager for not playing to his strengths ? If it's so bad dont go. Organise your protest. Nobody forces you to go
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 11, 2019 10:29:54 GMT
Why do you reckon Afobe is playing well and scoring goals at Bristol ? is it the fans fault or the manager for not playing to his strengths ? If it's so bad dont go. Organise your protest. Nobody forces you to go No answers then
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Sept 11, 2019 10:31:33 GMT
I think you'll find that most message boards across the country turn into the same kind of place as this currently is when those clubs are a fucking shambles as well. This idea that it's exclusively a SCFC thing and all other fans of other clubs just offer constructive criticism is bullshit. It's how football fans are all over the world, you're just trying to make it seem far more dramatic than it is with your use of hyperbole. Why is it "hysterical" to be fucked off with a club that's in the state we are? It's perfectly rational to most people who aren't just burying their heads in the sand. "What's all the fuss about?" Not like this place s-o-t, there is something in the water around these parts. If these people that radically post negative shit consistently are really so so bothered, why dont they use their energy to organise a protest at the game instead of consistently peddling their shite day after day? That joker bayern has just posted we have let 2 better strikers leave the club than hogan & gregory, I take it he is on about afobe, the same afobe he has been slagging off and people were dying to get rid of. If we had kept him he would be moaning he is still here. If the shoe fits...
You are aware of the purpose of a message board aren't you?
Are you expecting people to come on and extol the virtues of the the club dynamic, how well it's being run, the team unity and spirit we've had for so long and the wonderful ideas we have on the pitch, when none of that exists at the moment??
The mood of people's posts on a footballing message board, tends to be determined by how well that team is doing.....we are currently bottom of the league, just 1 point out of a possible 18 coming off the back of a dreadful season where we were in the Champ again for the first time for a decade because of an equally dreadful season the year before, we concede goals like nobody's business, barely score, have the worst penalty record of any team in all 4 leagues over the last 2 years, have picked up just 20 points of the last possible 88......can you not honestly see why the mood may not be altogether too cheery and upbeat? Really? Genuinely?
It's common bloody sense and kinda how a message board works! If you don't like it, then take a hiatus and come back when we're playing really well and have some kind of actual football team representing Stoke on the pitch, because strangely enough, when we're doing well the mood of the board changes as well. Are you starting to see how this message board thingy (and football in general) works now? Play well and supporters = Happy (yay! ).....Play badly and supporters = Very sad (Boo! )
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 11, 2019 10:36:18 GMT
If it's so bad dont go. Organise your protest. Nobody forces you to go No answers then Some players it works at some clubs others ot doesn't. Hyper critical bullshit again, you're another that would be pissy knickers if he was still here. Why should jones keep a player who hasn't done it for him well he has been here? Did he buy him? No did he fuck. It's just another round of ammo to fire even when you have been personally slagging the guy off for a season. But now hes scored a couple elsewhere you'll jump on that bandwagon now and fire away, he's the best thing since sliced bread. Pathetic.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 11, 2019 10:44:40 GMT
No answers then Some players it works at some clubs others ot doesn't. Hyper critical bullshit again, you're another that would be pissy knickers if he was still here. Why should jones keep a player who hasn't done it for him well he has been here? Did he buy him? No did he fuck. It's just another round of ammo to fire even when you have been personally slagging the guy off for a season. But now hes scored a couple elsewhere you'll jump on that bandwagon now and fire away, he's the best thing since sliced bread. Pathetic. What do you think of Sam Vokes contribution to the team since Nathan signed him ? he's not the best thing since sliced bread he is however proving that managed properly and played in a system that suits him he can score goals.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 11, 2019 10:49:57 GMT
Some players it works at some clubs others ot doesn't. Hyper critical bullshit again, you're another that would be pissy knickers if he was still here. Why should jones keep a player who hasn't done it for him well he has been here? Did he buy him? No did he fuck. It's just another round of ammo to fire even when you have been personally slagging the guy off for a season. But now hes scored a couple elsewhere you'll jump on that bandwagon now and fire away, he's the best thing since sliced bread. Pathetic. What do you think of Sam Vokes contribution to the team since Nathan signed him ? he's not the best thing since sliced bread he is however proving that managed properly and played in a system that suits him he can score goals. He has scored 3 in 500 minutes of football not 30 in a season He scored 8 in a season here but still got slagged; give it the biggun when hes hit over 8 hey? Hogan has scored 2 and hit the post several times in a couple of games ( half the time on the pitch) what is your point?
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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 11, 2019 13:10:42 GMT
I take it you don't attend games ? it's easier to take watching the shit served up from the comfort of your armchair, try sitting in that freezing cold lego kit that is the Bet 365 paying through the nose for warm beer and food barely fit for human consumption, watching a rag tag bunch of players who either don't give a fuck or are so shit they should not be here playing for a manager who couldn't pick his nose let alone the best team, plus paying for the privilege ! I do attend but not so often I'd like to. Live experience always beats the armchair one IMO despite the weather etc. But to see us playing as badly we are playing... it hurts however you are watching the matches. Last season offered very little enjoyment and this season seems to becoming even a worse one. The more I think about our past Premier seasons the more current situation hurts and makes me unhappy so I try to set new goals for this season just to try and get some enjoyment out of it. Of course I want us to be back in the promised land but at the same time I'm starting to realize it could be (yet again) a long wait. Then again promotion season in the old II division were one of the happier seasons for many so that kind of proves that the enjoyment isn't necessarily always dependable on what the level we are playing. We can't play the way we do now though so somethings got to give. Hopefully that would also mean the beginning of a new and happier era for all of us.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 11, 2019 14:00:56 GMT
What do you think of Sam Vokes contribution to the team since Nathan signed him ? he's not the best thing since sliced bread he is however proving that managed properly and played in a system that suits him he can score goals. He has scored 3 in 500 minutes of football not 30 in a season He scored 8 in a season here but still got slagged; give it the biggun when hes hit over 8 hey? Hogan has scored 2 and hit the post several times in a couple of games ( half the time on the pitch) what is your point? I asked about Sam Vokes no opinion on his contribution since Nath paid £9 m for him ?, I know Hogan has scored twice but hitting the post is not hitting the target, why is he not playing regularly ?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 11, 2019 14:56:34 GMT
He has scored 3 in 500 minutes of football not 30 in a season He scored 8 in a season here but still got slagged; give it the biggun when hes hit over 8 hey? Hogan has scored 2 and hit the post several times in a couple of games ( half the time on the pitch) what is your point? I asked about Sam Vokes no opinion on his contribution since Nath paid £9 m for him ?, I know Hogan has scored twice but hitting the post is not hitting the target, why is he not playing regularly ? Hang on, you have just been on about afobe now you are diverting away because you know you are full of shit.any excuse to bash the club and you are on it like a fly on shit. I dont think we have seen the best of vokes yet but I dont think that's all we are going to see for him. Jones is getting a feel for the squad. I believe with all the squad personal changes it has affected our start to the season, however, unlike you i think it's a temporary thing, muck spreader..... go on, harp on about last season 😴
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Post by miltonstokienew on Sept 11, 2019 15:10:28 GMT
I asked about Sam Vokes no opinion on his contribution since Nath paid £9 m for him ?, I know Hogan has scored twice but hitting the post is not hitting the target, why is he not playing regularly ? Hang on, you have just been on about afobe now you are diverting away because you know you are full of shit.any excuse to bash the club and you are on it like a fly on shit. I dont think we have seen the best of vokes yet but I dont think that's all we are going to see for him. Jones is getting a feel for the squad. I believe with all the squad personal changes it has affected our start to the season, however, unlike you i think it's a temporary thing, muck spreader..... go on, harp on about last season 😴 Wouldn't waste yout time with the repeatative troll.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 11, 2019 15:15:18 GMT
I asked about Sam Vokes no opinion on his contribution since Nath paid £9 m for him ?, I know Hogan has scored twice but hitting the post is not hitting the target, why is he not playing regularly ? Hang on, you have just been on about afobe now you are diverting away because you know you are full of shit.any excuse to bash the club and you are on it like a fly on shit. I dont think we have seen the best of vokes yet but I dont think that's all we are going to see for him. Jones is getting a feel for the squad. I believe with all the squad personal changes it has affected our start to the season, however, unlike you i think it's a temporary thing, muck spreader..... go on, harp on about last season 😴 I was comparing an expensive flop brought in by Nathan to an expensive flop brought in by Rowett, both have failed to make much impact though Afobe has scored more goals for us than Vokes who seems to have been pushed out of the picture by the man who signed him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 11, 2019 19:20:23 GMT
God forbid that we want the best and to be in the top flight. What kind of an attitude is yours? So do all clubs supporters, are they hysterical in criticising everything and anything about their club repeatedly and often in heightened exaggeration? No, are they fuck. There is constructive criticism and then there is outright child screaming his head off until the rollercoaster stops and they can get off style criticisim. That's the category you fall into, along with plenty of others. That’s bullshit. What I’ve said has been the truth. People don’t like the truth and don’t want to think that we’re so badly run that it won’t change. That’s your prerogative but it’s an odd one.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 11, 2019 19:22:36 GMT
I think you'll find that most message boards across the country turn into the same kind of place as this currently is when those clubs are a fucking shambles as well. This idea that it's exclusively a SCFC thing and all other fans of other clubs just offer constructive criticism is bullshit. It's how football fans are all over the world, you're just trying to make it seem far more dramatic than it is with your use of hyperbole. Why is it "hysterical" to be fucked off with a club that's in the state we are? It's perfectly rational to most people who aren't just burying their heads in the sand. "What's all the fuss about?" Not like this place s-o-t, there is something in the water around these parts. If these people that radically post negative shit consistently are really so so bothered, and things are so so bad why dont they use their energy to organise a protest at the game instead of consistently peddling their shite day after day? That joker bayern has just posted we have let 2 better strikers leave the club than hogan & gregory, I take it he is on about afobe, the same afobe he has been slagging off and people were dying to get rid of. If we had kept him he would be moaning he is still here. If the shoe fits... Your attitude is the one of Stoke-on-Trent that stinks. Happy with shite. I’ve defended Afobe more than most on here! 😂😂
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 11, 2019 19:26:12 GMT
Not like this place s-o-t, there is something in the water around these parts. If these people that radically post negative shit consistently are really so so bothered, and things are so so bad why dont they use their energy to organise a protest at the game instead of consistently peddling their shite day after day? That joker bayern has just posted we have let 2 better strikers leave the club than hogan & gregory, I take it he is on about afobe, the same afobe he has been slagging off and people were dying to get rid of. If we had kept him he would be moaning he is still here. If the shoe fits... Your attitude is the one of Stoke-on-Trent that stinks. Happy with shite. I’ve defended Afobe more than most on here! 😂😂 jones is going nowhere, suck it up, buttercup 😊
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 11, 2019 19:27:25 GMT
Your attitude is the one of Stoke-on-Trent that stinks. Happy with shite. I’ve defended Afobe more than most on here! 😂😂 jones is going nowhere, suck it up, buttercup 😊 Great we’ll be relegated. I’ll win 25 quid so that’s nice.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 11, 2019 19:27:43 GMT
Hang on, you have just been on about afobe now you are diverting away because you know you are full of shit.any excuse to bash the club and you are on it like a fly on shit. I dont think we have seen the best of vokes yet but I dont think that's all we are going to see for him. Jones is getting a feel for the squad. I believe with all the squad personal changes it has affected our start to the season, however, unlike you i think it's a temporary thing, muck spreader..... go on, harp on about last season 😴 Wouldn't waste yout time with the repeatative troll. any thoughts on how we are doing under Nathan oh interesting one ? a sentence would be nice if you have the ability to construct one that is.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 11, 2019 19:29:36 GMT
jones is going nowhere, suck it up, buttercup 😊 Great we’ll be relegated. I’ll win 25 quid so that’s nice. I'm over the moon he's staying because PC is right we have had a poor 'start' to the season and in some of them we have been unlucky. Jones is going to turn this around and you are going to be shown for the joker you are 🤡😊
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 11, 2019 19:30:53 GMT
Great we’ll be relegated. I’ll win 25 quid so that’s nice. I'm over the moon he's staying because PC is right we have had a poor 'start' to the season and in some of them we have been unlucky. Jones is going to turn this around and you are going to be shown for the joker you are 🤡😊 I hope he does but he won’t. PC needs to retire too let’s be honest.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 11, 2019 19:32:03 GMT
Great we’ll be relegated. I’ll win 25 quid so that’s nice. I'm over the moon he's staying because PC is right we have had a poor 'start' to the season and in some of them we have been unlucky. Jones is going to turn this around and you are going to be shown for the joker you are 🤡😊 You must like losing games of football. Then again, you are a bit of a strange one. No offence, like 😊
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 11, 2019 19:32:39 GMT
Great we’ll be relegated. I’ll win 25 quid so that’s nice. I'm over the moon he's staying because PC is right we have had a poor 'start' to the season and in some of them we have been unlucky. Jones is going to turn this around and you are going to be shown for the joker you are 🤡😊 When was the last time PC was right ? no mention of the shit fest last season when Nathan took over.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 11, 2019 19:33:06 GMT
I'm over the moon he's staying because PC is right we have had a poor 'start' to the season and in some of them we have been unlucky. Jones is going to turn this around and you are going to be shown for the joker you are 🤡😊 I hope he does but he won’t. PC needs to retire too let’s be honest. PC needs to retire? Why? He was spot on in that interview.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 11, 2019 19:35:14 GMT
I hope he does but he won’t. PC needs to retire too let’s be honest. PC needs to retire? Why? He was spot on in that interview. Because the board of which he is a part is the biggest issue at this club. If he thinks we’ve had a bad start only and ignored last season then he’s a moron. If he thinks we’ve been unlucky then he’s massively deluded. It’s history and recent history at that repeating itself. The Coates family are an issue .
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 11, 2019 19:38:15 GMT
I'm over the moon he's staying because PC is right we have had a poor 'start' to the season and in some of them we have been unlucky. Jones is going to turn this around and you are going to be shown for the joker you are 🤡😊 You must like losing games of football. Then again, you are a bit of a strange one. No offence, like 😊 Suck it up, buttercup 😊
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