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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 22:16:13 GMT
The whole hierarchy at our club are treating us fans with contempt and making us look idiots when we question what is going on. NJ has failed totally so why don't the idiots at the club tell us why they are backing him...save face etc...They choose not to because they think we are the idiots who just pay to watch the shit and don't have a say whilst they play god with our club... I think we should get behind the team but show the board what we truly think of them at the next home game...we have to force change and not let this destroy our club... We need an official statement Imagine that you run the club, we're in a shit position but you're not even thinking about sacking the manager yet because you'd decided to give him a right good crack at the rebuild when you put him in charge and even though you're concerned about the form, 6 bad games into a work-in-progress season doesn't feel worthy of scrapping the plan and starting from scratch just yet. So as the owner, what, if anything, would you come out and say to make those few fans that seem to want to sack everybody after every bad run feel like they aren't being treated with contempt because their posts on an internet forum aren't responded to with a club statement to the press — whilst also making sure that you're not undermining the manager in a pretty critical/tricky time in his role? It's a tricky one. Imagine it was your job to run the club, imagine that we are in a shit position and actually doing something about it and running the fucking damn club.
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Post by questionable on Sept 4, 2019 4:43:36 GMT
If there was a plan or even the remotest sign of a plan I’d be content but for Christ’s sake Jones has been a monumental calamity of the highest order and must be the worst manager we’ve ever had.
This nice guy reputation has now completely vanished with me and the quicker we can find a replacement the better for the club as a whole.
I reserve the word hate for the likes of Scholes, who may I add has yet again ducked out of the firing line (for now) but for every additional day Jones spends at the club the more damage he inflicts, it won’t change with him in charge.
How he’s managed to possibly put together a worse squad takes some doing and yet again will take years to get over.
To finalise Pulis left some stability, in fact a bloody good foundation for Hughes but FFS the Coates family have been an absolute car crash trying to replace him
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Post by callas12 on Sept 4, 2019 6:40:21 GMT
Perhaps it's time for Radio Stoke to invite Scholes in again and do an hour live chat to give his take on things SCFC right now. Would Radio Stoke have the nerve to invite him and & would Scholes agree to attend. Do think someone needs to explain where this rudderless ship is heading right now!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 4, 2019 8:16:10 GMT
Perhaps it's time for Radio Stoke to invite Scholes in again and do an hour live chat to give his take on things SCFC right now. Would Radio Stoke have the nerve to invite him and & would Scholes agree to attend. Do think someone needs to explain where this rudderless ship is heading right now! An hour long chat🤔Don’t be daft mate they’d have no time for the mind boggler🙄
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Post by callas12 on Sept 4, 2019 9:46:46 GMT
Perhaps it's time for Radio Stoke to invite Scholes in again and do an hour live chat to give his take on things SCFC right now. Would Radio Stoke have the nerve to invite him and & would Scholes agree to attend. Do think someone needs to explain where this rudderless ship is heading right now! An hour long chat🤔Don’t be daft mate they’d have no time for the mind boggler🙄 Not forgetting the traffic reports!
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Post by terry2stoke on Sept 4, 2019 9:59:33 GMT
Why don’t the players get asked why they are not performing to their capabilities These are the people letting the fans down every week. Someone needs to ask THEM what is wrong with playing for Stoke City
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Post by callas12 on Sept 4, 2019 10:52:42 GMT
Why don’t the players get asked why they are not performing to their capabilities These are the people letting the fans down every week. Someone needs to ask THEM what is wrong with playing for Stoke City The money they'll be taking home every week I doubt they really care! & if they did they'd never give an honest anyway, just the usual corporate stuff they always churn out 'we're behind the manager', 'we've been unlucky', 'we'll turn it around'. Players never seem accountable, they get paid regardless, it's got to be one of the only jobs where once you've signed the contract you pick up your money regardless of how you perform if at all particularly over a period of time. Guess it only players who move who could shed some light on what's going on deeper at the club but then you get the likes of Glen Johnson telling his account and Scholes quickly tried to put him back in his box!
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Post by thevoid on Sept 4, 2019 11:18:40 GMT
what have Coates's ever done for us? Blah blah blah you ungrateful lot. Who would want to manage SCFC with fans like this let alone the players? Get Mr Dale in from Bury then if you aren't happy then see the difference. Just because they aren't Mr Dale doesn't mean they're immune from criticism. That's a bit like saying the Richardson Gang are good old sticks because they aren't the Sicilian Mafia.
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Post by tinofspam on Sept 4, 2019 13:41:39 GMT
Why don’t the players get asked why they are not performing to their capabilities These are the people letting the fans down every week. Someone needs to ask THEM what is wrong with playing for Stoke City I agree, would love someone to ask them why they start each half well but then fizzle out after 15 to 20 minutes, pretty much every game since Charlton
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 4, 2019 13:47:14 GMT
Why don’t the players get asked why they are not performing to their capabilities These are the people letting the fans down every week. Someone needs to ask THEM what is wrong with playing for Stoke City The money they'll be taking home every week I doubt they really care! & if they did they'd never give an honest anyway, just the usual corporate stuff they always churn out 'we're behind the manager', 'we've been unlucky', 'we'll turn it around'. Players never seem accountable, they get paid regardless, it's got to be one of the only jobs where once you've signed the contract you pick up your money regardless of how you perform if at all particularly over a period of time. Guess it only players who move who could shed some light on what's going on deeper at the club but then you get the likes of Glen Johnson telling his account and Scholes quickly tried to put him back in his box!w What did scholes say about Johnson ?
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Post by GoBoks on Sept 4, 2019 13:47:28 GMT
The whole hierarchy at our club are treating us fans with contempt and making us look idiots when we question what is going on. NJ has failed totally so why don't the idiots at the club tell us why they are backing him...save face etc...They choose not to because they think we are the idiots who just pay to watch the shit and don't have a say whilst they play god with our club... I think we should get behind the team but show the board what we truly think of them at the next home game...we have to force change and not let this destroy our club... We need an official statement Why? It's clear that everyone on here knows much better than "the hierarchy". Apparently you even know what they are thinking. An official statement would be sooooo redundant. Oh, one small fact you seem to have gotten wrong, they are the owners, so it is their club.
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Post by neddy on Sept 4, 2019 16:37:29 GMT
Tricky isn’t it so let’s look at the options....
A. Vote of confidence....means they are looking for someone or why the hell haven’t they sacked him?
B. He’s got so many games.....that’s pissed him off he’s a goner first or how much longer will you give him lol?
C. Say nothing and fans say why don’t they come out and say A or B?
D. What’s all the fuss about either before Bristol game or after if we win? Gets a kicking in any eventuality lol!
Others?
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Post by callas12 on Sept 4, 2019 16:37:37 GMT
The money they'll be taking home every week I doubt they really care! & if they did they'd never give an honest anyway, just the usual corporate stuff they always churn out 'we're behind the manager', 'we've been unlucky', 'we'll turn it around'. Players never seem accountable, they get paid regardless, it's got to be one of the only jobs where once you've signed the contract you pick up your money regardless of how you perform if at all particularly over a period of time. Guess it only players who move who could shed some light on what's going on deeper at the club but then you get the likes of Glen Johnson telling his account and Scholes quickly tried to put him back in his box!w What did scholes say about Johnson ? On that double act interview where Scholes & Jon Coates are chatting the Johnson Talksport interview gets mentioned. Scholes basically deflects it off saying how it wasnt helpful & there's generally two sides to every story & Glens only given a side that suits him. Also highlights that Johnson wasnt in the 1st eleven at the time & kind of insinuating he may of been abit bitter about things. Just checked it starts discussing it on about 58mins.
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Post by serpico on Sept 4, 2019 16:47:08 GMT
What did scholes say about Johnson ? On that double act interview where Scholes & Jon Coates are chatting the Johnson Talksport interview gets mentioned. Scholes basically deflects it off saying how it wasnt helpful & there's generally two sides to every story & Glens only given a side that suits him. Also highlights that Johnson wasnt in the 1st eleven at the time & kind of insinuating he may of been abit bitter about things. Just checked it starts discussing it on about 58mins. Johnson not the only one to speak out though, is he ? Both crouch and Adam have said similar things.
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Sept 4, 2019 17:16:16 GMT
The whole hierarchy at our club are treating us fans with contempt and making us look idiots when we question what is going on. NJ has failed totally so why don't the idiots at the club tell us why they are backing him...save face etc...They choose not to because they think we are the idiots who just pay to watch the shit and don't have a say whilst they play god with our club... I think we should get behind the team but show the board what we truly think of them at the next home game...we have to force change and not let this destroy our club... We need an official statement Why? It's clear that everyone on here knows much better than "the hierarchy". Apparently you even know what they are thinking. An official statement would be sooooo redundant. Oh, one small fact you seem to have gotten wrong, they are the owners, so it is their club. Agree and whatever happens the club will still have a fanbase...although it may go to 7000 and lets see if they feel good about owning it then.
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Post by callas12 on Sept 4, 2019 18:26:47 GMT
On that double act interview where Scholes & Jon Coates are chatting the Johnson Talksport interview gets mentioned. Scholes basically deflects it off saying how it wasnt helpful & there's generally two sides to every story & Glens only given a side that suits him. Also highlights that Johnson wasnt in the 1st eleven at the time & kind of insinuating he may of been abit bitter about things. Just checked it starts discussing it on about 58mins. Johnson not the only one to speak out though, is he ? Both crouch and Adam have said similar things. No & think it's good to hear the opinions of ex players so long as their factual and constructed comments within reason. The original point was made by someone a bit back that current players should explain why they're not performing or what's going wrong which realistically I dont think they'd ever do if they value their Contracts!
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 4, 2019 19:32:46 GMT
They don't need to tell us anything we don't already know. They said when he was appointed that this was a long term project. They'll look like massive incompetent dickheads back sacking another manager- which would only serve to highlight the real problems within the club Think i missed something... are you suggesting that they DON't look like massively incompetent dickheads as it stands?
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 4, 2019 19:34:54 GMT
Yes but I don't think their long term project was supposed to go via league 1
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Post by FrankButcher on Sept 11, 2019 15:47:30 GMT
Silence due to be broken.
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 11, 2019 15:49:32 GMT
Even though it will be a non event, we should at least get a bit of incite at where we/ they are with the thought process.
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Post by Goonie on Sept 11, 2019 16:00:39 GMT
Perhaps it's time for Radio Stoke to invite Scholes in again and do an hour live chat to give his take on things SCFC right now. Would Radio Stoke have the nerve to invite him and & would Scholes agree to attend. Do think someone needs to explain where this rudderless ship is heading right now! It's not a ship we're a submarine and its dive, dive, dive
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 11, 2019 16:04:28 GMT
For those tuning in getting excited about a scoop, he is never going to come on and say, Jones is under pressure to get results or else, it will have been carefully planned, will say it's a long term project, of course we are concerned, lots of new players to bed in, blah blah
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Post by FrankButcher on Sept 11, 2019 16:08:53 GMT
For those tuning in getting excited about a scoop, he is never going to come on and say, Jones is under pressure to get results or else, it will have been carefully planned, will say it's a long term project, of course we are concerned, lots of new players to bed in, blah blah In other words a dreaded vote of confidence perhaps
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 11, 2019 16:15:09 GMT
Hopefully
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 11, 2019 16:20:48 GMT
A lot of fuss about nothing? The interview that is.
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 11, 2019 16:43:44 GMT
Why don’t the players get asked why they are not performing to their capabilities These are the people letting the fans down every week. Someone needs to ask THEM what is wrong with playing for Stoke City Maybe many of them are performing to their capabilities? Gregory and Powell - are low end Champs/L1 players Lindsay - League 1 player Hogan - not good enough for a Champs first team elsewhere Cousins - as above McClean - an average player, now played out of the position he has occupied for 15 years. Clucas - decent player, but now rendered less effective by being out of position in the centre (when he clearly stronger on the left of the front 3 or back 4) Collins - promising, but still raw and finding his feet in this league Smith - who knows? Huddersfield were never PL and gravity took its course a year later than it should. When last in the Champs, his side conceded more than it scored despite getting up through guts and will. Might only be a bang average Champs player for all we know. Of the rest, the capabilities of your team mates and the system dictate the effectiveness of individuals: there is no point me being a good passer like Woods for instance, without mobile forwards making runs and finding space. There is no point me being a potent header of the ball like Vokes, without effective wingers or wide players who can supply me. History shows they have strengths but if the system doesn't play to them, then they will never play to their capabilities, for all the tea in China.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 17:06:04 GMT
For those tuning in getting excited about a scoop, he is never going to come on and say, Jones is under pressure to get results or else, it will have been carefully planned, will say it's a long term project, of course we are concerned, lots of new players to bed in, blah blah Lol anyone thinking it’s going to be anything else needs sectioning. We all know what’s coming now. He might as well not bother but it’s nice he’s dragged himself out. It’s about 10 days later for a bite of confidence which should have been done last week if he was going to do it but as they say beggars can’t be choosers!
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Post by Absolution on Sept 11, 2019 17:10:59 GMT
"It's September now, but it is August."
Good start Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 17:13:42 GMT
"It's September now, but it is August." Good start Peter. This is the most bonkers one yet...
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Post by serpico on Sept 11, 2019 17:16:27 GMT
“We like what he’s doing”
Probably should have stayed shtum 😄
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