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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 9, 2019 7:32:44 GMT
They have bedded in,they play like they are half asleep. They are all athletes who Nath thinks can play fast attacking entertaining football ! in his fucking dreams. So we havnt seen them play any fast attacking football this season then? I must have imagined it
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Post by tosh on Sept 9, 2019 8:38:25 GMT
They are all athletes who Nath thinks can play fast attacking entertaining football ! in his fucking dreams. So we havnt seen them play any fast attacking football this season then? I must have imagined it You did! Have another look at the league. You somehow seem to be seeing a fast attacking team that is the least effective team in the league - and therefore bottom.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 9, 2019 8:41:02 GMT
So we havnt seen them play any fast attacking football this season then? I must have imagined it You did! Have another look at the league. You somehow seem to be seeing a fast attacking team that is the least effective team in the league - and therefore bottom. I wonder if the moaners will be looking at the table when we are top 10 and the football is as dull as a dark january day. Rowett was accused of dull football and he was picking up points. Why would you hound a manager out of the door who intends to play decent attacking football? What is the rush exactly? Cant you live without prem football for a season or 2 well we fix it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 8:43:54 GMT
You did! Have another look at the league. You somehow seem to be seeing a fast attacking team that is the least effective team in the league - and therefore bottom. I wonder if the moaners will be looking at the table when we are top 10 and the football is as dull as a dark january day. Rowett was accused of dull football and he was picking up points For the last time. Rowett was an arse that talked himself out of a job, was rude and wasted £50m. That’s why he got the sack.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 9, 2019 8:45:31 GMT
I wonder if the moaners will be looking at the table when we are top 10 and the football is as dull as a dark january day. Rowett was accused of dull football and he was picking up points For the last time. Rowett was an arse that talked himself out of a job, was rude and wasted £50m. That’s why he got the sack. Zzzzz wasted 50 million, that's a matter of opinion, the rebuild had only just began. He got hounded out because he didn't play or rate boy wonder.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 8:47:03 GMT
For the last time. Rowett was an arse that talked himself out of a job, was rude and wasted £50m. That’s why he got the sack. Zzzzz wasted 50 million, that's a matter of opinion, the rebuild had only just began. He got hounded out because he didn't play or rate boy wonder. 🙄
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Post by potterpaul on Sept 9, 2019 9:10:30 GMT
Butland Edwards-Batth-Collins-McClean Woods Clucas-Allen (or Etebo) Ince Vokes-Campbell Do we know why he didn't play this XI, in a diamond, from January onwards? He could have - and it's an XI that's as good (or bad) as any he could field at the moment. There certainly has been no step forward in terms of specialist holding player, full-backs, better strikers. Well he never trusted Edwards, Collins and Campbell for starters and still doesn't. I guess the Luton posters that came on here telling us his work with youth was complete fabrication are closer to the truth. I see you have Ince at top of diamond imagine playing someone properly suited to the role, if only we had someone here between Jan and April. This was his gravest mistake (not returning to his diamond around 7/8 matches into his tenure) and said at time it would come back to haunt us. A lot of people said he would turn it around during the summer window and pre season which meant they all had faith that our recruitment team could achieve a complete reversal of fortune compared to the last7 or 8 Windows. There were loads of clues in his early days here that he wasn't to be trusted with the truth and is no surprise that he as delivered almost the complete opposite to the claptrap he constantly spews out. A team we can be proud of, yeah, in the next lower league, I guess
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Post by DC1863 on Sept 9, 2019 10:19:56 GMT
For a start the left back situation is ridiculous we had a good enough left back at the club and we let him go for ward and mcclean to fill in. Crazy! Regardless of the manager, LB has to be an absolute top priority in January.
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Post by scfc75 on Sept 9, 2019 10:30:13 GMT
Powell aside, I don’t think I’d heard of any of these players we signed before they came to the club, they’re not the kind of signings that a club with promotion ambitions make, are they ? Maybe they just need time to bed in but it doesn’t look good. You probably couldn’t name the majority of Sheff Utd or Norwich’s teams from last season, or Cardiff or Fulham the season before, or Huddersfield or Brighton before that. Our problem isn’t a lack of ‘names’, it’s a lack of the right players being told to do the right things. We don’t need big names to do well, just a solid plan well executed.
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Post by dastokie on Sept 9, 2019 10:47:48 GMT
Six games in very hard to judge with the amount of chopping and changing of the side.
Although previous signings who have played ratings.
Butland disastrous start to the season. Confidence is low. Should have got 20 mill when we could have.
McClean never a left back or wing back in a million years. Run around a lot not far away from his socialmedia rants at the start of november adding to a bad vibe around the club fans divided etc. Get rid!!
Edwards Everyone wanting him to do well has been caught out a couple of times defensively. Patience still needed. Keep
Collins not a Jones signing but has been a bit of fresh air in this bad start. Keep
Indi played ok. Back from excile. Keep
Etebo only a bit of game time no problem need to keep.
Clucas holding his own. Keep.
Allen what can i say never liked him proof is in the pudding his 2 sitters missed this year sums it up. Get rid!
Ince the one trick pony cuts in from the right disappears during games.Get rid!
Really not looking good at the moment Ince Allen and McClean should not be all on the same team sheet at one time look at the record with the 3 in the team not good reading.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 9, 2019 12:55:38 GMT
For a start the left back situation is ridiculous we had a good enough left back at the club and we let him go for ward and mcclean to fill in. Crazy! Regardless of the manager, LB has to be an absolute top priority in January. It was last January as was a DM both glaring issues both not addressed, why in God's name would we oust Pieters and replace him with McClean and Ward ? absolute lunacy in my opinion.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 9, 2019 15:00:43 GMT
Powell aside, I don’t think I’d heard of any of these players we signed before they came to the club, they’re not the kind of signings that a club with promotion ambitions make, are they ? Maybe they just need time to bed in but it doesn’t look good. You probably couldn’t name the majority of Sheff Utd or Norwich’s teams from last season, or Cardiff or Fulham the season before, or Huddersfield or Brighton before that. Our problem isn’t a lack of ‘names’, it’s a lack of the right players being told to do the right things. We don’t need big names to do well, just a solid plan well executed. If you are right Nathan appears to have signed the wrong players or he hasn't got a fcuking clue how to play them in his system, either way pretty damning for the manager, I see he is now pleading for more time !, how much more time before he can get his own players playing how he wants them to ?
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Post by scfc75 on Sept 9, 2019 15:12:28 GMT
You probably couldn’t name the majority of Sheff Utd or Norwich’s teams from last season, or Cardiff or Fulham the season before, or Huddersfield or Brighton before that. Our problem isn’t a lack of ‘names’, it’s a lack of the right players being told to do the right things. We don’t need big names to do well, just a solid plan well executed. If you are right Nathan appears to have signed the wrong players or he hasn't got a fcuking clue how to play them in his system, either way pretty damning for the manager, I see he is now pleading for more time !, how much more time before he can get his own players playing how he wants them to ? His “judge me when they’re my players” statement has kind of backfired hasn’t it.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 9, 2019 15:29:59 GMT
If you are right Nathan appears to have signed the wrong players or he hasn't got a fcuking clue how to play them in his system, either way pretty damning for the manager, I see he is now pleading for more time !, how much more time before he can get his own players playing how he wants them to ? His “judge me when they’re my players” statement has kind of backfired hasn’t it. Very arrogant ill judged words indeed.
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Post by realstokebloke on Sept 9, 2019 16:07:37 GMT
Four.
And yet, despite the obvious snipping at their anonymity, quality, fitness track record etc., etc., I can't believe they can't, collectively, play a whole lot better.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 9, 2019 16:13:55 GMT
Four.
And yet, despite the obvious snipping at their anonymity, quality, fitness track record etc., etc., I can't believe they can't, collectively, play a whole lot better.
Do you think another manager could get a tune out of his signings ?, to me they look at best 3rd Division standard from what I have seen so far, it's a step to far for them and Nathan.
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 9, 2019 16:39:40 GMT
Four.
And yet, despite the obvious snipping at their anonymity, quality, fitness track record etc., etc., I can't believe they can't, collectively, play a whole lot better.
Do you think another manager could get a tune out of his signings ?, to me they look at best 3rd Division standard from what I have seen so far, it's a step to far for them and Nathan. Nathan's signings have been awful but I really do think virtually anyone with a little common sense could have matched or bettered our results this season.
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Post by realstokebloke on Sept 9, 2019 16:48:43 GMT
Four.
And yet, despite the obvious snipping at their anonymity, quality, fitness track record etc., etc., I can't believe they can't, collectively, play a whole lot better.
Do you think another manager could get a tune out of his signings ?, to me they look at best 3rd Division standard from what I have seen so far, it's a step to far for them and Nathan. I get the feeling that they cannot possibly be as bad as their current form suggests, put it that way.
Not that they will all, to a man, suddenly transform into Championship MVPs either.
And, as they are his players, I'd assume (hope anyway) he'd be best placed to get that tune - but the evidence to date that he can, is at very least flimsy
And therein lies the issue - the vast majority of other managers would almost certainly write them off before the first training session and will have nailed the promise of ano wedge for their own squad, or at least, key players.
That's why managers such as Bielsa and Wilder are so rare and so attractive - they have demonstrated that it is possible to take ano manager's squad and get them firing.
So finding ano in that mold, along with the huge £ implications in swapping managers again are almost certainly the reasons why he's still here.
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Post by Miles Offside on Sept 9, 2019 17:10:15 GMT
Not one inspires me. We can't defend, lack creativity and can't score goals.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 9, 2019 19:41:26 GMT
Not one inspires me. We can't defend, lack creativity and can't score goals. Apart from that though coupled with the fact the two positions that desperately needed addressing have been sadly neglected once again, still in Nathan some still trust so all will be fine and dandy all the way to relegation.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 9, 2019 19:49:31 GMT
Cousins is majestic.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 9, 2019 20:22:43 GMT
He'd look a player in the PDSL
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Post by hanibal7 on Sept 10, 2019 3:10:44 GMT
Lucky he didn't sign Gayle, still injured.
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Post by Bagwash on Sept 10, 2019 4:52:02 GMT
Not one inspires me. We can't defend, lack creativity and can't score goals. Agree,matey. Besides Jones' signings ,on current showings,being mediocre I thought he should have got better results with the squad he inherited last season,irrespective of what system he preferred. This chopping and changing of over half the team every game doesn't help but he caused it because too many players were signed pre season and he is spoilt for(bad)choices.It needed tinkering with, not a complete overhaul. We also didn't have the new manager 'bounce' that the majority of clubs have after sacking the manager.I reckon Huddersfield are in a similar position to us and the appointment of the Cowley brothers is not unlike our appointment of NJ.It will be interesting to see how there results pan out in the next few weeks.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 10, 2019 6:22:01 GMT
Lucky he didn't sign Gayle, still injured. He could have kept Powell company in the sick bay.
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Post by toptom007 on Sept 10, 2019 11:42:21 GMT
Ability to earn more than they are worth 10
Footballing Ability -2
NJ Ruining the squad so no - one wants to pick up the job and not getting sacked because of it Priceless.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 10, 2019 19:38:55 GMT
Ability to earn more than they are worth 10 Footballing Ability -2 NJ Ruining the squad so no - one wants to pick up the job and not getting sacked because of it Priceless. Self inflicted again, manager gets 4 months to improve results fails 3 wins in 4 months, amazingly he keeps the job brings in 11 players of his own choice to improve the team result we get worse who the fuck is running this club ?, anyone would think picked Jones because some bloke who supports WBA works for Bet 365 in a porta cabin and was pretty wank at his job suggested Nathan Jones is a great manager and we should get him in to John Coates in the pub
Davies - 3rd choice GK no better than we had Smith - no better than we had Ward - OAP worse than we had Cousins- worse than anyone we had Lindsay - worse than we had Batth - no better than what we had CCV-no better than what we had Hogan- no better than we had Powell- sick note worse than we had Gregory - no better than we had Vokes - worse than we had
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Post by dreamtheater on Sept 10, 2019 20:04:38 GMT
a collective of shyte ( apart from Gregory)
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 10, 2019 20:26:13 GMT
a collective of shyte ( apart from Gregory) To be fair to him he works his nads off however he lacks real quality and is not a prolific goal scorer, playing up front on his own is not going to help his cause I do feel a little sorry for him, the rest as you say are a crock of shit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 11, 2019 9:08:36 GMT
As said at the time, all of them are pointless and have made the squad worse.
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