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Post by upthefud on Sept 17, 2019 6:15:10 GMT
I’m sure you have your own very special reasons for randomly bringing a bloke who’s spending the prime of his career in China into a thread about managers Unlike a manager who is out of work you mean? Now that is Special. It's hardly random, just another example of you talking bollocks sunshine. If it's too hard for you to understand I was alluding to things well documented. H Speaking of things well documented, are you gonna fly out to China to see your hero play?
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Post by TheProletarian on Sept 17, 2019 6:24:35 GMT
I have inside sources on twitter telling me that account is talking a load of bollocks!
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Post by TheProletarian on Sept 17, 2019 6:26:58 GMT
It’s a no-discussion situation, 1 point in 21 is unacceptable, just as 25 points out of 90 is. Jones out.
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Post by Squeekster on Sept 17, 2019 6:41:36 GMT
Tony Pulis could keep us up, get us up, take us to a Cup Final and the knock out stages of a European competition and some would still refuse to attend home games whilst he's in charge. Our rise would be thanks to Coates, a new CEO, the fans. But never due to him 99.9 % of fans give him every bit of credit. He is without doubt one of our top 5 managers ever! HOWEVER, he’s past his “sell by” date and just like I don’t want to dig up Waddo and put him in charge, neither do I want TP back ever! Don’t confuse being appreciative of past service and wanting him back! Yes that's right, lets go for young hungry up and coming manager! Oh wait?
Nothing but praise for Pulis for what he did but I don't want him back although a short term deal to steady the ship I could just about stomach.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 17, 2019 8:48:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 8:56:01 GMT
No-one will do that. People will just stop going. We're going to get relegated aren't we...
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Post by mcw on Sept 17, 2019 9:10:47 GMT
It's a weird one, in so much as the performances this season have not been that bad- Preston apart which was an aberration. I thought that performance alone might have been enough to seal it. However since then we have not really been taken to the cleaners and on Saturday there were positive signs in the performance, but we still keep losing. It feels to me that it could turn, we just need a 1-0 from a deflected goal in a game we shouldn't have won to spark something- but will it happen, each game you think maybe and then hopes are dashed. How long can you keep hoping? A couple of bad performances and 2/3 nil drubbings would be the end, but instead we keep pluckily staying in games and giving everyone food for thought. I suppose eventually, maybe at the next international break, if things continue in the same vain that all emotion will be removed from the equation and he will be gone. Nurse has your warm milk and if you drink it down really quickly you won’t even notice the meds. It's a game of opinions, think it could change but highly likely that the lack of confidence and mental bashing from the previous 8 months mean that it won't. Nurse better bring some bloody strong meds as I don't think changing manager is going to bring the sudden uplift that everyone seems to be banking on.
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Post by skelman on Sept 17, 2019 9:58:38 GMT
No-one will do that. People will just stop going. We're going to get relegated aren't we... Always said I’d give him until Brentford but it’s actually the 5 days after that’s probably going to be the tipping point for Jones with the board. Losses or just the odd draw in the Brentford, Crawley and Forest games and there can be no more time given to him. I haven’t seen any consistent signs throughout a single game or over a run of games to suggest that he can turn this round. If these results continue, player morale will be absolutely on the floor and with potentially just 1 point from 9 games the board would have to act.
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Post by serpico on Sept 17, 2019 10:02:34 GMT
We’re conceding goals and not scoring enough, if he stays we probably go down, the club has lost has the plot. Can see crowds dwindling to 14-15k soon.
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 17, 2019 10:15:51 GMT
We’re conceding goals and not scoring enough, if he stays we probably go down, the club has lost has the plot. Can see crowds dwindling to 14-15k soon. Without wishing to sound over-dramatic, I think we'd get lower crowds than that to be honest.
They're dwindling enough already. I think a second relegation will be the final nail in the coffin for a lot of folk. IMO I think we'd be hitting 9 - 10k, such is the general feeling of everyone supporting the club right now. People have simply had enough.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 10:16:41 GMT
No-one will do that. People will just stop going. We're going to get relegated aren't we... Always said I’d give him until Brentford but it’s actually the 5 days after that’s probably going to be the tipping point for Jones with the board. Losses or just the odd draw in the Brentford, Crawley and Forest games and there can be no more time given to him. I haven’t seen any consistent signs throughout a single game or over a run of games to suggest that he can turn this round. If these results continue, player morale will be absolutely on the floor and with potentially just 1 point from 9 games the board would have to act. I genuinely am not sure anymore. They just seem to like to bumble along. If we lose those games then we've not got much hope anyway. It all seems a bit futile. The damage appears to be done.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 10:20:21 GMT
No-one will do that. People will just stop going. We're going to get relegated aren't we... It’s becoming a very real possibility.
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Post by skelman on Sept 17, 2019 10:33:45 GMT
Lambert was clearly a stopgap with a severance clause in his contract for when we went down, appointed after every other man and his dog had said no to us. Rowett was an arrogant bugger who was going to tear up the Championship but then whinged and whined and lost it with the supporters. Jones is a nice guy with great intent but clearly does not have the experience to succeed here. With some reorganisation and a clear consistent playing strategy, a manager like Hughton would start to turn this around quite quickly. Depends whether he thinks it’s a big enough challenge?????? 😱😬🤣🤣
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Post by thevoid on Sept 17, 2019 10:39:25 GMT
It's a shame that Coates seems determined to be remembered more as a Karl Oyston than a Jack Walker.
Looks like the Hughton talk was a load of bollocks then.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 10:40:12 GMT
No-one will do that. People will just stop going. We're going to get relegated aren't we... It’s becoming a very real possibility. I can't see the crowd turning at all. Not because people aren't angry but because, whether or not you think Jones is a nice man, everyone can see he's just out of his depth and I don't think you'd ever get the same anger that you did with Rowett because you can't help but feel a little bit sorry for him. It's just a stupid state of affairs. It really shouldn't take the crowd to turn either. I'm kind of at the point where I've given up. Even if we did get a new manager unless there are wholesale changes in how the club operates then I can't see how this couldn't happen again. It all just seems futile. I don't trust them to fix it anymore. We'll just be storming head first into the next crisis.
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Post by serpico on Sept 17, 2019 10:47:48 GMT
We’re conceding goals and not scoring enough, if he stays we probably go down, the club has lost has the plot. Can see crowds dwindling to 14-15k soon. Without wishing to sound over-dramatic, I think we'd get lower crowds than that to be honest. They're dwindling enough already. I think a second relegation will be the final nail in the coffin for a lot of folk. IMO I think we'd be hitting 9 - 10k, such is the general feeling of everyone supporting the club right now. People have simply had enough.
not sure it would ever dip below 10 but can see us going back to the days of 11-12k we have no goalscorer in the team and the defence is leaky, we've got relegation written all over us right now and once again the club can't see what the fans can.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 17, 2019 10:56:10 GMT
I really hope it won't come back to haunt them, but my advice is to get rid NOW!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 11:05:37 GMT
It's a shame that Coates seems determined to be remembered more as a Karl Oyston than a Jack Walker. Looks like the Hughton talk was a load of bollocks then. Or Nixon doesn't want to admit a rival paper had the scoop he didn't? Odd that it was printed by one paper than another denying it. Having said that we've probably sorted fuck all and not scouted out replacements as per usual and are going to continue to bumble along regardless so he may well be right...
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Sept 17, 2019 11:09:03 GMT
Without wishing to sound over-dramatic, I think we'd get lower crowds than that to be honest. They're dwindling enough already. I think a second relegation will be the final nail in the coffin for a lot of folk. IMO I think we'd be hitting 9 - 10k, such is the general feeling of everyone supporting the club right now. People have simply had enough.
not sure it would ever dip below 10 but can see us going back to the days of 11-12k we have no goalscorer in the team and the defence is leaky, we've got relegation written all over us right now and once again the club can't see what the fans can. I'm still genuinely amazed the last man to hit 20 goals in Stoke shirt was Peter Thorne 20 years ago. It's stunning. Just done some brief research, the last Stoke striker to hit 20 goals in the league in the 2nd tier was Dennis Viollet in 1962/63
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 17, 2019 11:28:22 GMT
It's a weird one, in so much as the performances this season have not been that bad- Preston apart which was an aberration. I thought that performance alone might have been enough to seal it. However since then we have not really been taken to the cleaners and on Saturday there were positive signs in the performance, but we still keep losing. It feels to me that it could turn, we just need a 1-0 from a deflected goal in a game we shouldn't have won to spark something- but will it happen, each game you think maybe and then hopes are dashed. How long can you keep hoping? A couple of bad performances and 2/3 nil drubbings would be the end, but instead we keep pluckily staying in games and giving everyone food for thought. I suppose eventually, maybe at the next international break, if things continue in the same vain that all emotion will be removed from the equation and he will be gone. No offence mcw, but I don't see how some people can think we're just one win away from ripping up the league??? All we need is one....just ONE team to play shit against us, and we somehow manage to pull off a 1-0 win, then there'll be no stopping us!!! Yet until then, we can't even buy a win.....it's a delusional way of thinking, sorry!!!
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 17, 2019 11:31:46 GMT
We’re conceding goals and not scoring enough, if he stays we probably go down, the club has lost has the plot. Can see crowds dwindling to 14-15k soon. Without wishing to sound over-dramatic, I think we'd get lower crowds than that to be honest. They're dwindling enough already. I think a second relegation will be the final nail in the coffin for a lot of folk. IMO I think we'd be hitting 9 - 10k, such is the general feeling of everyone supporting the club right now. People have simply had enough.
The real picture will become clear on the night games, wait until it's a non decision as to attend or not as its not a Saturday and folks cant tag it onto drinking beer in the sun.
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 17, 2019 11:32:41 GMT
It's a shame that Coates seems determined to be remembered more as a Karl Oyston than a Jack Walker. Looks like the Hughton talk was a load of bollocks then. Or Nixon doesn't want to admit a rival paper had the scoop he didn't? Odd that it was printed by one paper than another denying it. Having said that we've probably sorted fuck all and not scouted out replacements as per usual and are going to continue to bumble along regardless so he may well be right... Isnt nicko from the mirror aswell
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Post by Goonie on Sept 17, 2019 11:58:48 GMT
Surely a thrashing is the end?
Hopefully been in talks behind the scenes for weeks with the right candidate
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Post by Goonie on Sept 17, 2019 11:59:19 GMT
not sure it would ever dip below 10 but can see us going back to the days of 11-12k we have no goalscorer in the team and the defence is leaky, we've got relegation written all over us right now and once again the club can't see what the fans can. I'm still genuinely amazed the last man to hit 20 goals in Stoke shirt was Peter Thorne 20 years ago. It's stunning. Just done some brief research, the last Stoke striker to hit 20 goals in the league in the 2nd tier was Dennis Viollet in 1962/63 Horrifying stat that
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 12:00:29 GMT
Or Nixon doesn't want to admit a rival paper had the scoop he didn't? Odd that it was printed by one paper than another denying it. Having said that we've probably sorted fuck all and not scouted out replacements as per usual and are going to continue to bumble along regardless so he may well be right... Isnt nicko from the mirror aswell I thought he was the Sun but could be wrong!
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Sept 17, 2019 12:04:23 GMT
JONES OUT banner imminent
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 17, 2019 12:09:37 GMT
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Post by FrankButcher on Sept 17, 2019 12:10:14 GMT
If we lose at brentford we'll have lost 3 league games on the spin logically would make sense to change it after then in my opinion with the league cup tie on the Tuesday have Kevin Russell in caretaker charge for it and have the new manager in the stands watching on but I forgot the Coates Family don't do things the logical way.
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 17, 2019 12:13:40 GMT
Conflicting reports about if Jones stays or if Hughton is being lined up, lord knows where the truth lies!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 12:15:20 GMT
Conflicting reports about if Jones stays or if Hughton is being lined up, lord knows where the truth lies!! We are dilly dallying and going back and forth and will do so until its too late anyway...that is probably the only real truth here!
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