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Post by loosestools on Sept 16, 2019 18:12:20 GMT
Could Hughton take over and potentially keep Jones on in assistant manager to maybe lessen the blow? Then what happens to Uncle Fester?
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2019 18:14:51 GMT
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Post by skelman on Sept 16, 2019 18:15:53 GMT
I was feeling like this Rob and then I considered the truly awful signings he's made and it was clear as day, that he doesn't have a clue what he's doing. I wouldn't want him to be spending money again, if by some miracle he had managed to keep us up. It's certainly difficult to make any lucid case for things getting significantly better Paul. A couple of swallows don’t make a summer, particularly when we’re into the 2nd half of September! If Hughton’s willing, bring him in straight after Brentford and before Forest. We need to be decisive and act promptly now to stop this nice guy crap results debacle. The current calamitous horror show offers no sustained evidence of any progress whatsoever.
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 16, 2019 18:19:29 GMT
That's just like the biggest slap in the face coming, sure as hell undermines jones as the next big thing in management. He would probably walk away if they are lining up the babysitter to help him out
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Post by Davef on Sept 16, 2019 18:19:47 GMT
Could Hughton take over and potentially keep Jones on in assistant manager to maybe lessen the blow? When has that situation EVER happened?
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2019 18:25:07 GMT
Could Hughton take over and potentially keep Jones on in assistant manager to maybe lessen the blow? When has that situation EVER happened? www.theguardian.com/football/2000/nov/27/newsstory.bradfordThis one sprang to mind. But it doesn't seem tenable, does it? Totally different approaches and it would just cut Jones off at the knees - just as it did Robson. And not many managers would have the humility to even countenance it.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 16, 2019 18:26:02 GMT
Has Hughton got any history with this Phil Chapple?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 16, 2019 18:27:15 GMT
Has Hughton got any history with this Phil Chapple? Didn't he pointedly not play the various expensive foreign signings he brought in?
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2019 18:28:38 GMT
Has Hughton got any history with this Phil Chapple? He was European scout for Hughton's last 2 1/2 yrs at Brighton by the looks of it. But think there's a suggestion that the bulk of the signings in this period were not exactly Hughton picks - so hard to know if there's much of a relationship.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 16, 2019 18:28:56 GMT
Has Hughton got any history with this Phil Chapple? Didn't he pointedly not play the various expensive foreign signings he brought in? I don’t know Rob I was just curious if they either worked together or knew each other
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 16, 2019 18:29:42 GMT
Has Hughton got any history with this Phil Chapple? He was European scout for Hughton's last 2 1/2 yrs at Brighton by the looks of it. But think there's a suggestion that the bulk of the signings in this period were not exactly Hughton picks - so hard to know if there's much of a relationship. Bloody hell that appointment might be on hold then😄
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 16, 2019 18:32:08 GMT
Jones out, Hughton in! Make it happen NOW!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 16, 2019 19:15:14 GMT
Has Hughton got any history with this Phil Chapple? He was European scout for Hughton's last 2 1/2 yrs at Brighton by the looks of it. But think there's a suggestion that the bulk of the signings in this period were not exactly Hughton picks - so hard to know if there's much of a relationship. Has Chapple actually joined the club, I've had a quick Google but can't see anything?
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2019 19:21:40 GMT
He was European scout for Hughton's last 2 1/2 yrs at Brighton by the looks of it. But think there's a suggestion that the bulk of the signings in this period were not exactly Hughton picks - so hard to know if there's much of a relationship. Has Chapple actually joined the club, I've had a quick Google but can't see anything? Don't think so . Maybe it's on ice until they've decided what's going on with Jones?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 19:25:43 GMT
Brighton's signings from Europe over two seasons were generally decent under Hughton / Chapple:
Jürgen Locadia José Izquierdo Davy Pröpper Mathew Ryan Markus Suttner Ezequiel Schelotto Pascal Groß Ales Mateju Mathias Normann Viktor Gyökeres
Alireza Jahanbakhsh Yves Bissouma Bernardo Martín Montoya Florin Andone Jan Mlakar Tudor Baluta Anders Dreyer Peter Gwargis Leon Balogun
Total cost of that lot was around 120M (average 6M per head) and to be fair, most were a damn sight better than what we spent our money on.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 16, 2019 19:29:12 GMT
Has Chapple actually joined the club, I've had a quick Google but can't see anything? Don't think so . Maybe it's on ice until they've decided what's going on with Jones? I was just thinking if that is the case, then it must be pretty weird for both Chapple and especially Jones. You would have thought that his start date to come in must have been agreed weeks ago, yet if it's now been put on ice temporarily, then it's hardly giving Jones a vote of confidence.
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2019 19:39:51 GMT
Could Hughton take over and potentially keep Jones on in assistant manager to maybe lessen the blow? When has that situation EVER happened? Chris Kamara/Chic Bates
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2019 19:40:52 GMT
Brighton's signings from Europe over two seasons were generally decent under Hughton / Chapple: Jürgen Locadia José Izquierdo Davy Pröpper Mathew Ryan Markus Suttner Ezequiel Schelotto Pascal Groß Ales Mateju Mathias Normann Viktor Gyökeres Alireza Jahanbakhsh Yves Bissouma Bernardo Martín Montoya Florin Andone Jan Mlakar Tudor Baluta Anders Dreyer Peter Gwargis Leon Balogun Total cost of that lot was around 120M (average 6M per head) and to be fair, most were a damn sight better than what we spent our money on. With some clangers But overall looks good business
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Post by Davef on Sept 16, 2019 19:43:56 GMT
When has that situation EVER happened? Chris Kamara/Chic Bates At a properly run club I meant.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 16, 2019 19:44:02 GMT
Brighton's signings from Europe over two seasons were generally decent under Hughton / Chapple: Jürgen Locadia José Izquierdo Davy Pröpper Mathew Ryan Markus Suttner Ezequiel Schelotto Pascal Groß Ales Mateju Mathias Normann Viktor Gyökeres Alireza Jahanbakhsh Yves Bissouma Bernardo Martín Montoya Florin Andone Jan Mlakar Tudor Baluta Anders Dreyer Peter Gwargis Leon Balogun Total cost of that lot was around 120M (average 6M per head) and to be fair, most were a damn sight better than what we spent our money on. They look good on paper but how many of them have actually made any kind of impact there?
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2019 19:44:20 GMT
At a properly run club I meant. Ah right you are then
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2019 19:44:56 GMT
Brighton's signings from Europe over two seasons were generally decent under Hughton / Chapple: Jürgen Locadia José Izquierdo Davy Pröpper Mathew Ryan Markus Suttner Ezequiel Schelotto Pascal Groß Ales Mateju Mathias Normann Viktor Gyökeres Alireza Jahanbakhsh Yves Bissouma Bernardo Martín Montoya Florin Andone Jan Mlakar Tudor Baluta Anders Dreyer Peter Gwargis Leon Balogun Total cost of that lot was around 120M (average 6M per head) and to be fair, most were a damn sight better than what we spent our money on. They look good on paper but how many of them have actually made any kind of impact there? They got promoted and stayed up didn't they?
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2019 19:47:21 GMT
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Post by royalewithcheese on Sept 16, 2019 19:48:42 GMT
If we "wait and see" because "its only August/September", we risk another club getting the jump on us, and snapping Hughton up.
Let's face it, he'd be a very good coup for lots of teams in the Championship with his record.
Dangerous strategy.
If we are that far down the road that we are seriously considering a change, we might as well get on with it.
Can anyone see us stringing together a decent run of 8 or 10 results? That's what it's going to take. We need 3 or 4 wins and 3 or 4 draws from the next 10.
It's just not going to happen.
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2019 19:50:14 GMT
If we "wait and see" because "its only August/September", we risk another club getting the jump on us, and snapping Hughton up. Let's face it, he'd be a very good coup for lots of teams in the Championship with his record. Dangerous strategy. If we are that far down the road that we are seriously considering a change, we might as well get on with it. Can anyone see us stringing together a decent run of 8 or 10 results? That's what it's going to take. We need 3 or 4 wins and 3 or 4 draws from the next 10. It's just not going to happen. If it is to be Hughton, I agree we must act quickly before he goes elsewhere.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 16, 2019 19:53:13 GMT
If we "wait and see" because "its only August/September", we risk another club getting the jump on us, and snapping Hughton up. Let's face it, he'd be a very good coup for lots of teams in the Championship with his record. Dangerous strategy. If we are that far down the road that we are seriously considering a change, we might as well get on with it. Can anyone see us stringing together a decent run of 8 or 10 results? That's what it's going to take. We need 3 or 4 wins and 3 or 4 draws from the next 10. It's just not going to happen. If it is to be Hughton, I agree we must act quickly before he goes elsewhere. Jesus Marchy your Pulis teddy wont be talking to you tonight 🤣😎
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 16, 2019 20:07:25 GMT
They look good on paper but how many of them have actually made any kind of impact there? They got promoted and stayed up didn't they? The vast majority of those signings were made after they were promoted. If you spend all that money on players who either don't play or don't make much impact and you still stay up, you still haven't really spent that money well have you?
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 16, 2019 20:20:08 GMT
So Hughton turned down Sheff Wed, did he? On the fringes of the playoffs and arguably a bigger club. So why would he come to Stoke if offered it? If he took over at Wednesday and they finished 8th, 10th - his (good) reputation would get a little dent. If he took over at Stoke and got them to 16th - his reputation would take a further lift.
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 16, 2019 20:52:09 GMT
Brighton's signings from Europe over two seasons were generally decent under Hughton / Chapple: Jürgen Locadia José Izquierdo Davy Pröpper Mathew Ryan Markus Suttner Ezequiel Schelotto Pascal Groß Ales Mateju Mathias Normann Viktor Gyökeres Alireza Jahanbakhsh Yves Bissouma Bernardo Martín Montoya Florin Andone Jan Mlakar Tudor Baluta Anders Dreyer Peter Gwargis Leon Balogun Total cost of that lot was around 120M (average 6M per head) and to be fair, most were a damn sight better than what we spent our money on. Reason for the delay could be that Coates senior has actually realised that chapple has a history of buying foreign players and is now busily retracting that job offer.
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 16, 2019 20:53:21 GMT
So Hughton turned down Sheff Wed, did he? On the fringes of the playoffs and arguably a bigger club. So why would he come to Stoke if offered it? If he took over at Wednesday and they finished 8th, 10th - his (good) reputation would get a little dent. If he took over at Stoke and got them to 16th - his reputation would take a further lift. If he got us to the top half of the table he would have the keys to the city
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