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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 16, 2019 16:00:26 GMT
102 points when he took Newcastle up and 93 when he took Brighton up. If that's "safety first" where do I sign? Must admit, I didn't realise that he'd done that.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 16, 2019 16:06:22 GMT
There's still part of me that irrationally thinks it might all click with Jones somehow and we'll regret it if we pull the trigger. That feeling gets smaller by the week though and it really isn't supported by anything tangible he's done since coming to the club... I think it's based on us playing some tidy stuff and actually creating some chances, and the prospect of just jacking it all in for a greyer than grey pragmatist and playing for a set piece here and there just chokes my soul a bit. Needs must though I guess. We can't keep losing every week. I'd much rather the greyer than grey pragmatist with two promotions out of this league than the inexperienced batshit evangelist currently overseeing one of the worst runs in our history I get that, and I'd infinitely rather have Hughton than Pulis or O'Neill and probably than Moyes. When we create those overloads and get players forward there are times when we look like an exciting side and that we might just click. Then we don't, and it all turns to rat shit again. It's such a shame.
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Post by mcw on Sept 16, 2019 16:11:09 GMT
There's still part of me that irrationally thinks it might all click with Jones somehow and we'll regret it if we pull the trigger. That feeling gets smaller by the week though and it really isn't supported by anything tangible he's done since coming to the club... I think it's based on us playing some tidy stuff and actually creating some chances, and the prospect of just jacking it all in for a greyer than grey pragmatist and playing for a set piece here and there just chokes my soul a bit. Needs must though I guess. We can't keep losing every week. I’d say this was a decent summary of how most fans feel. Before we know it the situation will be too dire to get out of so we must act Yep, exactly how I feel. A feeling that if it clicks it could be something special, which is astounding when you look at the results in the cold light of day. It's like a roller coaster ride, the Preston game was an abject disaster and yet just as you think this is it and he has lost the players/lost the plot then you get a performance like Saturday when you couldn't fault the effort, some really promising link up play. At some point though that intangible feeling has to be put to one side and a decision made purely on the results.
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Post by Scrotnig on Sept 16, 2019 16:17:12 GMT
II still see glimpses of something. Me too - it's called 'League 1'.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 16, 2019 16:27:44 GMT
If that's "safety first" where do I sign? Must admit, I didn't realise that he'd done that. Most people don't realise a lot of things before they go spouting off on here. He's far from your steady Eddie manager.
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Post by marylandstoke on Sept 16, 2019 16:31:11 GMT
Must admit, I didn't realise that he'd done that. Most people don't realise a lot of things before they go spouting off on here. He's far from your steady Eddie manager. On current evidence he’s just far from being a manager full stop.
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Post by Sfance on Sept 16, 2019 16:34:22 GMT
Maybe the reason he keeps appealing to god is he’s been singled out as a modern-day Lot and god’s fucking with him. He best tell his wife to shut up about Luton or he’ll wake up one morning and she’ll be turned to stone. You’re gotta feel sorry for the guy but once you’re on god’s naughty list there’s not much you can do.
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 16, 2019 16:37:17 GMT
If that's "safety first" where do I sign? Must admit, I didn't realise that he'd done that. Go steady though, didn't rowett and jones come with reputations of plenty goals scored
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2019 16:40:36 GMT
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 16, 2019 16:43:12 GMT
I've had to endure an everton fan at work saying how depressed they are losing to Bournemouth, give ya fuckin head a wobble you jammy bastard, what i wouldn't do to swap places.
Honestly think the mental health of a stoke fan must be on a different stratosphere at the moment.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 16, 2019 16:48:37 GMT
There's still part of me that irrationally thinks it might all click with Jones somehow and we'll regret it if we pull the trigger. That feeling gets smaller by the week though and it really isn't supported by anything tangible he's done since coming to the club... I think it's based on us playing some tidy stuff and actually creating some chances, and the prospect of just jacking it all in for a greyer than grey pragmatist and playing for a set piece here and there just chokes my soul a bit. Needs must though I guess. We can't keep losing every week. I was feeling like this Rob and then I considered the truly awful signings he's made and it was clear as day, that he doesn't have a clue what he's doing. I wouldn't want him to be spending money again, if by some miracle he had managed to keep us up.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 16, 2019 16:51:10 GMT
There's still part of me that irrationally thinks it might all click with Jones somehow and we'll regret it if we pull the trigger. That feeling gets smaller by the week though and it really isn't supported by anything tangible he's done since coming to the club... I think it's based on us playing some tidy stuff and actually creating some chances, and the prospect of just jacking it all in for a greyer than grey pragmatist and playing for a set piece here and there just chokes my soul a bit. Needs must though I guess. We can't keep losing every week. I was feeling like this Rob and then I considered the truly awful signings he's made and it was clear as day, that he doesn't have a clue what he's doing. I wouldn't want him to be spending money again, if by some miracle he had managed to keep us up. It's certainly difficult to make any lucid case for things getting significantly better Paul.
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2019 16:51:19 GMT
Hughton has been known to set up very defensively however when get got sides promoted they have been good to watch. Really really want to agree with you about Jones but finding it very difficult. One up top simply doesn't work with these players for me Whoever is in charge, Jones, Hughton,Pulis,Jesus of Nazareth...will find it very difficult to stop players giving stupid goals away. It's an epidemic throughout. There are so many posters whose opinions I respect making reasoned and objective cases for change. And of course I get it. I'm probably wrong. That's my track record! I actually think Hughton is underated - I take the point about getting teams promoted, and it's true that ultra pragmatism gives promoted teams in the Prem a decent chance of survival. He's almost a victim of his own effectiveness and ambitious chairmen wanting more. But I wanted a Nuno Espirito Santo, a Farke or even a Dean Smith or Billy Wilder. I thought Nathan might break the mould of promotion and consolidation. I thought he might have a real go, almost Kevin Keegan style. Give us a bit of style and swagger. I saw those 7-0 results at Luton, them out scoring Manchester City and wanted that for us. If there is the slightest chance, the most remote possibility from this point that he could recreate that, I would still be prepared to take that chance at this time. I am certain that we won't be relegated. The board will have to replace him if this losing streak continues, whether it's down to bad luck, bad management or poor play. So I'm taking the view that right now, we haven't got that much to lose, but potentially, a hell of a lot to gain. Think that dream has died sadly.
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2019 16:52:55 GMT
Most people don't realise a lot of things before they go spouting off on here. He's far from your steady Eddie manager. On current evidence he’s just far from being a manager full stop. They are talking about Hughton
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 16, 2019 16:57:15 GMT
Must admit, I didn't realise that he'd done that. Most people don't realise a lot of things before they go spouting off on here. He's far from your steady Eddie manager. What kind of manager is he, oh oracle?
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Post by rawli on Sept 16, 2019 16:57:34 GMT
There's still part of me that irrationally thinks it might all click with Jones somehow and we'll regret it if we pull the trigger. That feeling gets smaller by the week though and it really isn't supported by anything tangible he's done since coming to the club... I think it's based on us playing some tidy stuff and actually creating some chances, and the prospect of just jacking it all in for a greyer than grey pragmatist and playing for a set piece here and there just chokes my soul a bit. Needs must though I guess. We can't keep losing every week. I'm the same. Starting to think he might just be an unlucky general for us though.
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2019 16:59:15 GMT
What's Hughton's record like for playing youngsters?
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Post by ChesterStokie on Sept 16, 2019 17:13:50 GMT
So Hughton turned down Sheff Wed, did he?
On the fringes of the playoffs and arguably a bigger club.
So why would he come to Stoke if offered it?
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2019 17:15:45 GMT
So Hughton turned down Sheff Wed, did he? On the fringes of the playoffs and arguably a bigger club. So why would he come to Stoke if offered it? ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 16, 2019 17:19:52 GMT
Must admit, I didn't realise that he'd done that. Go steady though, didn't rowett and jones come with reputations of plenty goals scored Not with promotion from this league as well, though?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 16, 2019 17:30:29 GMT
Must admit, I didn't realise that he'd done that. Most people don't realise a lot of things before they go spouting off on here. He's far from your steady Eddie manager. I suggested him a couple years ago, but I didn't realise his points totals had been that good.
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Post by corkstokie on Sept 16, 2019 17:43:04 GMT
Most people don't realise a lot of things before they go spouting off on here. He's far from your steady Eddie manager. I suggested him a couple years ago, but I didn't realise his points totals had been that good. Me too - class manager and a great front man. He knows what he's talking about - I'd be delighted if we got him
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 17:48:21 GMT
Get him in asap.
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 16, 2019 17:48:27 GMT
Fuck me we’ll be having our own manager of the month competition at this rate !!!!!
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2019 17:53:41 GMT
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Post by nigerianstokie on Sept 16, 2019 17:55:36 GMT
Fuck me we’ll be having our own manager of the month competition at this rate !!!!! One of them has to be good first.
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Post by toppercorner on Sept 16, 2019 17:58:12 GMT
Fuck me we’ll be having our own manager of the month competition at this rate !!!!! it'll be the first one to win a match or score more than 3 goals in a game
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Post by loosestools on Sept 16, 2019 18:02:43 GMT
Who’d want to come to this poisonous club, think about it we’ve got a complete numpty who takes advice from some bloke who watches three games a week, probably still living at home with his parents and a bigger numpty accountant who thinks he can run a football club, oh and some old bloke who talks to Radio Stoke every three months or so telling people they’re wrong and everything is going to plan. Would you work with a club like this, I know I wouldn’t. Oh give it a rest.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Sept 16, 2019 18:04:20 GMT
That’s not really going to tell us much when Sidwell and Rosenior we’re in effect working for him at the time of the article!
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 16, 2019 18:08:50 GMT
Could Hughton take over and potentially keep Jones on in assistant manager to maybe lessen the blow?
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