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Post by royalewithcheese on Nov 18, 2019 20:06:54 GMT
The one the media have set re restless Stoke fans. It’s not an issue. I have the ability to think for myself. So the media isn't an issue. Can you explain what I've said which isn't factual? We've got a massive game coming up and our new manager is away overseeing a meaningless game with another team, when he could be here preparing us for Saturday. Any of that not true?
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Post by royalewithcheese on Nov 18, 2019 20:07:33 GMT
The easiest thing in the world would've been for O'Neill to have taken the two international games, rock up on Thursday to be unveiled as our new manager, watch Saturday's game sat next to Peter Coates and start work in earnest on Monday. I don't know what all the fuss is about. I cant tell if theres any sarcasm in that post or not.
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Post by royalewithcheese on Nov 18, 2019 20:09:39 GMT
So the decision to let him do the play offs was to save us money, not out of O'Neill's integrity? Awesome.
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 18, 2019 20:23:23 GMT
The one the media have set re restless Stoke fans. It’s not an issue. March though? Could that not be a bloody issue if we're at the sharp end of a dog fight?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 20:23:57 GMT
So the decision to let him do the play offs was to save us money, not out of O'Neill's integrity? Awesome. You seem to be very easily "awed".
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 18, 2019 20:31:34 GMT
I'd actually be far less concerned about him taking them in the summer than now and March. There's now way they'd get past the group stage and he'd be done and dusted by week commencing 21st June. Everything that needs to be done in that period can easily be done on the phone. If we're still in the bottom three when he buggers off in March again of course it will be a massive issue.
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Post by thebet365 on Nov 18, 2019 20:31:56 GMT
So the decision to let him do the play offs was to save us money, not out of O'Neill's integrity? Awesome. No the decision to be available for the play offs was Michael's. He's already been quoted saying that. Fair play to us making the most of the situation and getting a discount because of it.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 18, 2019 21:17:50 GMT
I'd actually be far less concerned about him taking them in the summer than now and March. There's now way they'd get past the group stage and he'd be done and dusted by week commencing 21st June. Everything that needs to be done in that period can easily be done on the phone. If we're still in the bottom three when he buggers off in March again of course it will be a massive issue. I'm sure he's doing his studying on wigan's tactics as we speak. I'm sure he's got someone spying on Wigan every day. Wigan. Wigan. I'm sure Michael O'Neill can learn all he needs about Wigan from Wednesday onwards. In the championship, you often only get a day or two to prepare for a game anyway.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 18, 2019 21:48:58 GMT
I'd actually be far less concerned about him taking them in the summer than now and March. There's now way they'd get past the group stage and he'd be done and dusted by week commencing 21st June. Everything that needs to be done in that period can easily be done on the phone. If we're still in the bottom three when he buggers off in March again of course it will be a massive issue. I'm sure he's doing his studying on wigan's tactics as we speak. I'm sure he's got someone spying on Wigan every day. Wigan. Wigan. I'm sure Michael O'Neill can learn all he needs about Wigan from Wednesday onwards. In the championship, you often only get a day or two to prepare for a game anyway. If we keep winning then its not a problem is it but if we lose on Saturday everything will focus on what he's been up to and more importantly not been up to these past 10 days.
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Post by biglad180 on Nov 18, 2019 22:04:59 GMT
It will be ok if we are getting results on the pitch but if we are still on a bad run I fear our fans will turn on him
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 18, 2019 22:13:50 GMT
I'd actually be far less concerned about him taking them in the summer than now and March. There's now way they'd get past the group stage and he'd be done and dusted by week commencing 21st June. Everything that needs to be done in that period can easily be done on the phone. If we're still in the bottom three when he buggers off in March again of course it will be a massive issue. March is the one. The two games now are not ideal but I think it’s understandable and reasonable if we wanted him. And indeed he could have just said he’d take over for the Wigan game and we’d already be three points worse off probably. Two more games in four months’ time at the business end of a relegation battle season (when who knows what kind of shape we’ll be in) is mental and should never have entered the discussion. Fingers crossed we get away with it because I do like the guy.
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Post by plymouthpotter4 on Nov 18, 2019 22:36:56 GMT
He sums it up well in the article when he says he could name his play off squad tomorrow. His NI team can be watching the players and it's not like they have huge amounts that a knocking on the door of a call up that need the manager to scout them. Plus we'll be well clear of danger by then (fingers crossed)
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Nov 18, 2019 23:01:52 GMT
He sums it up well in the article when he says he could name his play off squad tomorrow. His NI team can be watching the players and it's not like they have huge amounts that a knocking on the door of a call up that need the manager to scout them. Plus we'll be well clear of danger by then (fingers crossed) What if he brings some of the NIR back room staff with him as he has with Cousins, are they all going to split their time?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2019 23:08:44 GMT
The one the media have set re restless Stoke fans. It’s not an issue. March though? Could that not be a bloody issue if we're at the sharp end of a dog fight? Maybe but I don’t think we should let it bother us.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2019 23:10:11 GMT
The one the media have set re restless Stoke fans. It’s not an issue. I have the ability to think for myself. So the media isn't an issue. Can you explain what I've said which isn't factual? We've got a massive game coming up and our new manager is away overseeing a meaningless game with another team, when he could be here preparing us for Saturday. Any of that not true? I haven’t said it’s not true. It’s just not worth getting your knickers in a twist over it, that’s all.
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Post by raythesailor on Nov 18, 2019 23:11:24 GMT
I have read numerous articles and seen videos of interviews he has done.
From knowing little or nothing about him I have to say I have a very optimistic feeling about this guy and we may well have discovered a hidden gem.
I hope and trust that I am wright.
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Post by bassmaster on Nov 18, 2019 23:15:54 GMT
I have read numerous articles and seen videos of interviews he has done. From knowing little or nothing about him I have to say I have a very optimistic feeling about this guy and we may well have discovered a hidden gem. I hope and trust that I am wright. Or you could just be wong...
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 19, 2019 0:01:14 GMT
March though? Could that not be a bloody issue if we're at the sharp end of a dog fight? Maybe but I don’t think we should let it bother us. Fair enough. It’ll niggle at me, unless MON really is a miracle worker and we’re well clear by then. I’m kind of hoping that the NI FA end up feeling they want a clean break after these games so they can appoint someone quickly.
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Post by britvic72 on Nov 19, 2019 0:59:51 GMT
He sums it up well in the article when he says he could name his play off squad tomorrow. His NI team can be watching the players and it's not like they have huge amounts that a knocking on the door of a call up that need the manager to scout them. Plus we'll be well clear of danger by then (fingers crossed) What if he brings some of the NIR back room staff with him as he has with Cousins, are they all going to split their time? What if he brings some of the NI players here in January too?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 19, 2019 1:17:38 GMT
Look unprepared on Saturday or out coached during the game due to preparation and some serious questions will need to be answered around the cost of this arrangement to SCFC in the long run
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Post by enuntio on Nov 19, 2019 2:53:31 GMT
As it stands we are towards the end of an international break. So there are plenty of club teams with players still absent.
I for one don't think it would have a negative impact on Stoke if he goes away for the play offs and even the finals. I actually would want him to do well in the finals after leading us to a play off final victory... :-)
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 19, 2019 7:08:49 GMT
I managed Stoke and Nigeria at the same time on Championship Manager and did a great job at both, so everything will be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 7:16:09 GMT
Look unprepared on Saturday or out coached during the game due to preparation and some serious questions will need to be answered around the cost of this arrangement to SCFC in the long run We looked unprepared and out coached for long spells of Jones's reign when he had no distractions
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Post by Gods on Nov 19, 2019 7:31:36 GMT
I managed Stoke and Nigeria at the same time on Championship Manager and did a great job at both, so everything will be fine. Exactly, if you get properly organised and have staff you can rely on to do the grunt work I don't see why it need take more than 2 or 3 hours a day, no one wants their manager hanging around the place like a bad smell 12 hours a day anyway.
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Post by Veritas on Nov 19, 2019 9:21:01 GMT
I have read numerous articles and seen videos of interviews he has done. From knowing little or nothing about him I have to say I have a very optimistic feeling about this guy and we may well have discovered a hidden gem. I hope and trust that I am wright. What like the pies?
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 19, 2019 9:59:45 GMT
I'd actually be far less concerned about him taking them in the summer than now and March. There's now way they'd get past the group stage and he'd be done and dusted by week commencing 21st June. Everything that needs to be done in that period can easily be done on the phone. If we're still in the bottom three when he buggers off in March again of course it will be a massive issue. If we still are in the bottom three in March,then it would be safe to say that he has been ineffective in the management of the team,and probably not such a massive issue.
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Post by Davef on Nov 19, 2019 10:08:07 GMT
Look unprepared on Saturday or out coached during the game due to preparation and some serious questions will need to be answered around the cost of this arrangement to SCFC in the long run And had O'Neill accepted the job on Thursday after the two international game and taken control of the game like he did at Barnsley after one training session what would've been the difference? Apart from not having the three points we won at Oakwell?
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Post by noustie on Nov 19, 2019 10:09:15 GMT
I'd actually be far less concerned about him taking them in the summer than now and March. There's now way they'd get past the group stage and he'd be done and dusted by week commencing 21st June. Everything that needs to be done in that period can easily be done on the phone. If we're still in the bottom three when he buggers off in March again of course it will be a massive issue. I don’t really see what difference it would make letting him have the summer and if we refused run the danger of p!ssing him off especially if we have some momentum. My concern is that essentially the period between now and March he can use as a probation. Say we’re floundering in relegation and he takes them through the playoffs he could essentially rip his contract up with his reputation intact – he would get another job fairly easily so long as NI didn’t get absolutely spanked in the Euros.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 19, 2019 10:29:14 GMT
I'd actually be far less concerned about him taking them in the summer than now and March. There's now way they'd get past the group stage and he'd be done and dusted by week commencing 21st June. Everything that needs to be done in that period can easily be done on the phone. If we're still in the bottom three when he buggers off in March again of course it will be a massive issue. March is the one. The two games now are not ideal but I think it’s understandable and reasonable if we wanted him. And indeed he could have just said he’d take over for the Wigan game and we’d already be three points worse off probably. Two more games in four months’ time at the business end of a relegation battle season (when who knows what kind of shape we’ll be in) is mental and should never have entered the discussion. Fingers crossed we get away with it because I do like the guy. We'll be in mid table obscurity by March so there will be zero to worry about.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Nov 19, 2019 10:31:50 GMT
March is the one. The two games now are not ideal but I think it’s understandable and reasonable if we wanted him. And indeed he could have just said he’d take over for the Wigan game and we’d already be three points worse off probably. Two more games in four months’ time at the business end of a relegation battle season (when who knows what kind of shape we’ll be in) is mental and should never have entered the discussion. Fingers crossed we get away with it because I do like the guy. We'll be in mid table obscurity by March so there will be zero to worry about. See you on here on March 15 for a chat then Dave
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