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Post by TheProletarian on Nov 12, 2019 15:59:12 GMT
From what O'Neill says Rooster and Rory are definitely staying? he won’t feasibly leave
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 12, 2019 16:04:35 GMT
From what O'Neill says Rooster and Rory are definitely staying? he won’t feasibly leave Which one - Rooster or Rory?
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Post by GoBoks on Nov 12, 2019 16:22:35 GMT
Talksport just been gushing over our new manager.Expected him to go to a club in the Prem and they agreed it is a fantastic appointment for us. They’ve been wring before , I’m still hearing warning bells . 1 Amszed how fast the game was Saturday from O’Neil himself 2 Stoke went the extra mile ie we were desperate enough to let him keep his current job and pay him 50% more than we are paying hughes at the beginning of his tenure . not knocking O’Neil just saying one result doesn’t offset that’s it’s a huge risk abs he’s totally unproven in this or Any English league Translation for those who do not speak BenjaminBiscuitese: They’ve been wrong before , I’m still hearing warning bells ..... He's not Tony Pulis, we're doomed to consecutive relegations.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Nov 12, 2019 19:22:00 GMT
Worth a watch/listen if you want to hear more from MON since we're getting next to nothing at the minute!
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 12, 2019 20:21:06 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 12, 2019 20:26:33 GMT
Begs the question. Will he stay on for the euros, should they qualify?
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 12, 2019 20:26:59 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-michael-oneill-live-3527397It will be very difficult for Michael O’Neill to balance the two jobs long term.
Our understanding is that Stoke are waiting to see if Northern Ireland make the play-offs.
If they do, they need to have a conversation with the IFA, if they don’t, job sorted.
As for O’Neill, his reputation as Northern Ireland manager is made, but his reputation as Stoke City manager is still fluid and he will surely want to concentrate his entire focus on the club after next week’s game against Germany.
As we understand it, that conversation is still to be had between Stoke and the Irish FA.
Stoke were clearly happy to oblige both them and Michael O’Neill for these forthcoming games against Holland and Germany, when a lot of Stoke players will be away anyway.
But the thought of O’Neill having to pack his bags again in March, in the midst of a relegation battle, does fill you with much joy.
So surely it will be incumbent on Northern Ireland to appoint a long-term replacement between the end of next week and March.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Nov 12, 2019 20:30:42 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-michael-oneill-live-3527397It will be very difficult for Michael O’Neill to balance the two jobs long term.
Our understanding is that Stoke are waiting to see if Northern Ireland make the play-offs.
If they do, they need to have a conversation with the IFA, if they don’t, job sorted.
As for O’Neill, his reputation as Northern Ireland manager is made, but his reputation as Stoke City manager is still fluid and he will surely want to concentrate his entire focus on the club after next week’s game against Germany.
As we understand it, that conversation is still to be had between Stoke and the Irish FA.
Stoke were clearly happy to oblige both them and Michael O’Neill for these forthcoming games against Holland and Germany, when a lot of Stoke players will be away anyway.
But the thought of O’Neill having to pack his bags again in March, in the midst of a relegation battle, does fill you with much joy.
So surely it will be incumbent on Northern Ireland to appoint a long-term replacement between the end of next week and March. We won't be in a relation battle come March.
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 12, 2019 20:32:21 GMT
Begs the question. Will he stay on for the euros, should they qualify? Of course he would. I really hope they don’t qualify, this is going to get ridiculous
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Post by TheProletarian on Nov 12, 2019 20:38:14 GMT
Which one - Rooster or Rory? I meant Rory but neither really. They have never to my knowledge actually expressed an interest in the managers job, or leaving. So I can’t imagine they would leave now, or they probably would have done it already. Plus, they’re both club legends in their own rights.
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Post by TheProletarian on Nov 12, 2019 20:38:56 GMT
Just made it from 3 stars to 4 stars signifying that we will get our 4th win of the season next match. Unquestionable logic!
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 12, 2019 22:07:34 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 12, 2019 22:16:41 GMT
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Post by GoBoks on Nov 12, 2019 23:25:29 GMT
Begs the question. Will he stay on for the euros, should they qualify? Could be useful having him there to do some scouting instead of on a beach somewhere?
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 13, 2019 7:59:39 GMT
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Nov 13, 2019 9:00:21 GMT
I can accept the Germany and Netherlands games but beyond that it’s just taking the piss.
We’ve employed the man, we’re paying him a lot of money, and this teams needs 100% of his commitment if he’s going to expect 100% commitment from the players.
I like the appointment, I think he can take us places but I don’t want this to become a farce. We don’t currently have a back room staff set in place etc just doesn’t sit right with me.
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Post by nott1 on Nov 13, 2019 9:16:35 GMT
Doing both won't make a gnat's arse of difference to us as we would have players away on international duty or on holiday/light training anyway!
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 13, 2019 9:57:14 GMT
Doing both won't make a gnat's arse of difference to us as we would have players away on international duty or on holiday/light training anyway! He can just carry on doing both jobs indefinitely then?
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 13, 2019 9:57:27 GMT
Doing both won't make a gnat's arse of difference to us as we would have players away on international duty or on holiday/light training anyway! Surprisingly few are away this time - think only really Allen and McClean from Saturday's team. I think results will dictate everything with regard to how his possible absence in March will be viewed. But I'm still sceptical he'll actually take charge for the play-offs - and can't believe there's any chance at all we'd let him take charge for the finals. But one thing's for sure, if we'd lost on Saturday, this messageboard would be in uproar about him buggering off to Belfast yesterday!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 13, 2019 10:59:40 GMT
Doing both won't make a gnat's arse of difference to us as we would have players away on international duty or on holiday/light training anyway! Surprisingly few are away this time - think only really Allen and McClean from Saturday's team. I think results will dictate everything with regard to how his possible absence in March will be viewed. But I'm still sceptical he'll actually take charge for the play-offs - and can't believe there's any chance at all we'd let him take charge for the finals. But one thing's for sure, if we'd lost on Saturday, this messageboard would be in uproar about him buggering off to Belfast yesterday! As you say it all depends on results as to what happens. I think as long as we're not stuck in a relegation battle he'll take charge at the Euro's. However, if we are in a relegation battle the pressure on him and the board to dedicate 100% of his focus on Stoke City will be too great for either and I think he'll be forced to quit NI and rightfully so. I don't think it makes much difference to us results wise if he does both jobs or not but the perceived focus he has is key here and results will dictate whether he has the luxury to do both or not. So as a positive for us it gives him more of an incentive to get results here so he can then continue to take charge of his beloved NI.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 13, 2019 11:22:50 GMT
I can accept the Germany and Netherlands games but beyond that it’s just taking the piss. We’ve employed the man, we’re paying him a lot of money, and this teams needs 100% of his commitment if he’s going to expect 100% commitment from the players. I like the appointment, I think he can take us places but I don’t want this to become a farce. We don’t currently have a back room staff set in place etc just doesn’t sit right with me. But we accept half our squad jetting halfway round the world on international duty. What's the difference really?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 13, 2019 11:27:32 GMT
Surprisingly few are away this time - think only really Allen and McClean from Saturday's team. I think results will dictate everything with regard to how his possible absence in March will be viewed. But I'm still sceptical he'll actually take charge for the play-offs - and can't believe there's any chance at all we'd let him take charge for the finals. But one thing's for sure, if we'd lost on Saturday, this messageboard would be in uproar about him buggering off to Belfast yesterday! As you say it all depends on results as to what happens. I think as long as we're not stuck in a relegation battle he'll take charge at the Euro's. However, if we are in a relegation battle the pressure on him and the board to dedicate 100% of his focus on Stoke City will be too great for either and I think he'll be forced to quit NI and rightfully so. I don't think it makes much difference to us results wise if he does both jobs or not but the perceived focus he has is key here and results will dictate whether he has the luxury to do both or not. So as a positive for us it gives him more of an incentive to get results here so he can then continue to take charge of his beloved NI. Exactly. It might never happen. And if we take our 'It's all black' hat off for a second it might, as you say, work to our advantage.
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Post by nott1 on Nov 13, 2019 11:28:41 GMT
Doing both won't make a gnat's arse of difference to us as we would have players away on international duty or on holiday/light training anyway! He can just carry on doing both jobs indefinitely then? Why not? I think it has been done before although I can't remember any details. Running a team like NI doesn't take a lot of time I'd say.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 13, 2019 12:27:55 GMT
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Nov 13, 2019 13:31:02 GMT
I can accept the Germany and Netherlands games but beyond that it’s just taking the piss. We’ve employed the man, we’re paying him a lot of money, and this teams needs 100% of his commitment if he’s going to expect 100% commitment from the players. I like the appointment, I think he can take us places but I don’t want this to become a farce. We don’t currently have a back room staff set in place etc just doesn’t sit right with me. But we accept half our squad jetting halfway round the world on international duty. What's the difference really? Not really the same though, is it? Players play in one/two positions their only worry is making sure they are ready for that particular game. The manager has to make sure every player is ready and briefed etc. I don't see how some people can't see the difference.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 13, 2019 13:42:14 GMT
But we accept half our squad jetting halfway round the world on international duty. What's the difference really? Not really the same though, is it? Players play in one/two positions their only worry is making sure they are ready for that particular game. The manager has to make sure every player is ready and briefed etc. I don't see how some people can't see the difference. But the manager isn't on his own either is he? He has a whole raft of coaches for goalkeeper, strikers, defenders, fitness, nutrition, statto's, psychology etc both with NI and at Stoke. The manager or Head Coach probably has an overview, deciding on strategy, tactics and ultimately picking the side so he isn't running round like a blue arsed fly doing all these things on his own. I just don't think it's as big a deal as some are making out. And if it becomes one I expect him to choose us over NI.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 13, 2019 14:02:44 GMT
Talksport just trying to get a reaction so people listen and call in. It's a terrible station I'd rather listen to radio static.
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Post by chigstoke on Nov 13, 2019 14:13:03 GMT
Talksport just trying to get a reaction so people listen and call in. It's a terrible station I'd rather listen to radio static. Think I'd prefer radio static actually. There are only so many times one person can hear Nige say 'Bruno NDiaye'.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 13, 2019 16:00:26 GMT
Talksport just trying to get a reaction so people listen and call in. It's a terrible station I'd rather listen to radio static. Can you get this Radio Static on DAB too?
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Post by GoBoks on Nov 13, 2019 16:20:28 GMT
Surprisingly few are away this time - think only really Allen and McClean from Saturday's team. I think results will dictate everything with regard to how his possible absence in March will be viewed. But I'm still sceptical he'll actually take charge for the play-offs - and can't believe there's any chance at all we'd let him take charge for the finals. But one thing's for sure, if we'd lost on Saturday, this messageboard would be in uproar about him buggering off to Belfast yesterday! As you say it all depends on results as to what happens. I think as long as we're not stuck in a relegation battle he'll take charge at the Euro's. However, if we are in a relegation battle the pressure on him and the board to dedicate 100% of his focus on Stoke City will be too great for either and I think he'll be forced to quit NI and rightfully so. I don't think it makes much difference to us results wise if he does both jobs or not but the perceived focus he has is key here and results will dictate whether he has the luxury to do both or not. So as a positive for us it gives him more of an incentive to get results here so he can then continue to take charge of his beloved NI. If I was NI, I'd want my new man in ASAP. Regardless of whether they are already qualified this weekend or have to go through playoffs, perfect opportunity for new guy to build a head of steam and win support. I think after next weekend, there will be an announcement on who the new NI man is. I think they should go for TP.
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