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Post by thevoid on Nov 9, 2019 13:27:27 GMT
Who the fudge said I wasn't going to support him? Of course I will support him and hope to hell he succeeds. He's got a big enough job rescuing SCFC ... never mind another one alongside. That's my gripe. End of. Weird way of showing support. Let's be honest we could've got Pep with Klopp putting the cones out and the Pulis Loons would whinge.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 9, 2019 13:30:59 GMT
Any Northern Irish Stokies about- who's going to replace MON as national boss then?
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Post by kustokie on Nov 9, 2019 13:33:35 GMT
We have got ourselves a manager who would otherwise be currently out of our league - we are a club with too many poor players, 3 expensive foreign players out on loan, our two best players likely to agitate to leave in January, a squad shaped to play an ineffective diamond, parachute payments running down and adrift at the bottom of a tough division. To think you can do well here, you have to believe you can get more out of the squad and bring in players who are under the radar as there cannot be big money to spend due to FFP. MON had no need to take this job, he would have been able to do better than us by waiting, so the price is us being more flexible than we like. Reading about him and talking to people in the game, there is no doubt in my mind that he is the real deal, better than we could have expected to get and exactly what we need. He clearly sees a chance to build something here like he did with NI. If he doesn’t work out then it must be the club that is broken We haven’t actually got a manager we’ve borrowed N Ireland’s and given him a 3 1/2 year contract when other full time candidates of equal or greater experience were available that needs explaining especially given only yesterday we we spouting “ it’s his commitment that made the difference “ I agree. MON may be the right man for the job, but we need 100% of his attention focused on keeping us up. You can’t serve two masters. I hope I am wrong. But this smacks of desperation.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 9, 2019 13:35:39 GMT
Because you are an idiot. Last night you got told of by others,and you got them banned, when it should have been you who needs to go. I dont know how u have survived this long. Last ever reply to you from me, and you need to start respecting others but u will never will change your ways. I been speaking to the Admin over you. Isn't your purpose served now? Toodle pip
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Post by GoBoks on Nov 9, 2019 13:37:23 GMT
"unique" translation = "idiotic" Worked for Fulham, didn’t it? How about just giving him a chance instead of lambasting a decision that has been made by people to try and save the hundreds of millions of quid they have invested?
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Post by thevoid on Nov 9, 2019 13:38:17 GMT
Wonder if Quest will send Colin Murray along to do a show from 'The Bet' anytime soon?
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 9, 2019 13:40:05 GMT
We haven’t actually got a manager we’ve borrowed N Ireland’s and given him a 3 1/2 year contract when other full time candidates of equal or greater experience were available that needs explaining especially given only yesterday we we spouting “ it’s his commitment that made the difference “ I agree. MON may be the right man for the job, but we need 100% of his attention focused on keeping us up. You can’t serve two masters. I hope I am wrong. But this smacks of desperation. It smacks of Scholes protecting his job another nice manager they can manipulate.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 9, 2019 13:42:01 GMT
Wonder if Quest will send Colin Murray along to do a show from 'The Bet' anytime soon? It would be like a carry on film Carry on fucking up.
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Post by GoBoks on Nov 9, 2019 13:44:59 GMT
The first public questions for the chief executive on the basis of the reports circulating in Belfast are What is your comment on the views being circulated that personal animosity prevented the appointment of certain available full time candidates given the club have now appointed a part time manager on a full time salary . Should they be proven to have any substance would you agree it would be appropriate for any such individual to resign all club office immediately Can you comment on the view that we Will be transitioning next summer into a division 1 or championship promotion campaign and yet we have agreed the manager could be away from role for 6 weeks planning and executing a European campaign when other full time managers of equal or better experience were Clearly available Can you confirm exactly who will be in charge of the recruitment strategy while the manager is away due to international duty Why did the club indicate in its Press releases yesterday Michael’s absolute commitment to the role was the reason for the choice when effectively reports circulating in the Irish media suggest his real commitment is a part time one Why have the club Agreed to pay compensation when effectively Michael is according to reports still in role with Northern Ireland surely a loan fee would have been more appropriate . Or..... Can you explain why we haven’t gone back for a certain capped manager whose turgid football divided the fan base more than any other single person in the past 40 years and who has a history of falling out with his employers and ending in court (more so than any other manager in the past 40 years)? What would you say to the 3 fans that have vowed to boycott all games until said capped manager is appointed?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 13:49:25 GMT
Any Northern Irish Stokies about- who's going to replace MON as national boss then? I'm not, but Jimmy Nicholl's been mentioned as a candidate.
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Post by lordb on Nov 9, 2019 13:50:45 GMT
he has lots of experience more than the rest 1 he has never managed in England 2 he has never managed in the championship 3 his previous club career is Shamrock rovers and Brechin city He has no relevant experience at all the mangers of Montenegro , Khazikstan and Aberjan have equally relevant experience on the basis Pearson & Shakespeare , Pulis , Atkins , Pardew all have more relevant experience Didn’t require compensation and are available full time it’ stinks of something very very rotten Adkins isn't available, he's in a job. How many times have you castigated Stoke for paying Derby compensation for Rowett? I'd rather have you than Pardew. Pearson is a better candidate than some but he bombed at Derby and has been sacked by a second division side in Belgium Pulis... I'm not going over those arguments again. Managing N Ireland is far more relevant than those countries as all their players play in our leagues. His record at tiny Shamrock was impressive.
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Post by liathroid on Nov 9, 2019 13:52:48 GMT
he has lots of experience more than the rest 1 he has never managed in England BIG DEAL 2 he has never managed in the championship BIG DEAL 3 his previous club career is Shamrock rovers and Brechin city 2 LEAGUES TITLES ,CHAMPIONS LEAGUE AND EUROPA LEAGUE EXPERIENCE AND GOT N IRELAND TO THE EUROS He has no relevant experience at all the mangers of Montenegro , Khazikstan and Aberjan have equally relevant experience on the basis Pearson & Shakespeare , Pulis , Atkins , Pardew all have more relevant experience Didn’t require compensation and are available full time it’ stinks of something very very rotten AND HOW COME THERE ALL DOING FUCK ALL THEN IF THEIR THAT GOOD
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Post by GoBoks on Nov 9, 2019 13:54:41 GMT
If we lose today and he disappears for ten days then his tenure already has a great black cloud over it. It defies even the most basic of common sense. The owners have lost it I'm afraid. There is no other explanation. Are you really a Stoke fan? How the hell does 3 people moaning their bags off about a brilliant appointment equate to “his tenure has a great black cloud over it”??? I believe you were one of those who said “of course I will give the new guy, whoever he is, a fair crack at the whip”. How the hell does creating a minor shit storm on the “fan” website equate to giving him a fair chance? If you’re so anti everything to do with Stoke, why the hell go to the presence of being a fan? Or waste your time on a Stoke fan site. Good God! I cannot believe that Stokies are so bigoted that they have to resort to picking on the color of his nose or a very temporary arrangement for him not to leave the team he has built and nurtured for 8 years in the lurch. Buck up MoanMoan, give the guy a chance!
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Post by liathroid on Nov 9, 2019 13:55:52 GMT
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Post by serpico on Nov 9, 2019 13:56:30 GMT
"unique" translation = "idiotic" Worked for Fulham, didn’t it? How about just giving him a chance instead of lambasting a decision that has been made by people to try and save the hundreds of millions of quid they have invested? This is a message board designed for people to vent their opinion on decisions made by the club, I disagree with this decision, call me crazy but I think we should have a manager who is narrowly focussed on stoke and not Northern Ireland as well.
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Post by serpico on Nov 9, 2019 14:01:27 GMT
If we lose today and he disappears for ten days then his tenure already has a great black cloud over it. It defies even the most basic of common sense. The owners have lost it I'm afraid. There is no other explanation. Are you really a Stoke fan? How the hell does 3 people moaning their bags off about a brilliant appointment equate to “his tenure has a great black cloud over it”??? I believe you were one of those who said “of course I will give the new guy, whoever he is, a fair crack at the whip”. How the hell does creating a minor shit storm on the “fan” website equate to giving him a fair chance? If you’re so anti everything to do with Stoke, why the hell go to the presence of being a fan? Or waste your time on a Stoke fan site. Good God! I cannot believe that Stokies are so bigoted that they have to resort to picking on the color of his nose or a very temporary arrangement for him not to leave the team he has built and nurtured for 8 years in the lurch. Buck up MoanMoan, give the guy a chance! You’re not a real fan unless you’re happy for the manager to split his time with another team ?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 9, 2019 14:06:37 GMT
The first public questions for the chief executive on the basis of the reports circulating in Belfast are What is your comment on the views being circulated that personal animosity prevented the appointment of certain available full time candidates given the club have now appointed a part time manager on a full time salary . Should they be proven to have any substance would you agree it would be appropriate for any such individual to resign all club office immediately Can you comment on the view that we Will be transitioning next summer into a division 1 or championship promotion campaign and yet we have agreed the manager could be away from role for 6 weeks planning and executing a European campaign when other full time managers of equal or better experience were Clearly available Can you confirm exactly who will be in charge of the recruitment strategy while the manager is away due to international duty Why did the club indicate in its Press releases yesterday Michael’s absolute commitment to the role was the reason for the choice when effectively reports circulating in the Irish media suggest his real commitment is a part time one Why have the club Agreed to pay compensation when effectively Michael is according to reports still in role with Northern Ireland surely a loan fee would have been more appropriate . Or..... Can you explain why we haven’t gone back for a certain capped manager whose turgid football divided the fan base more than any other single person in the past 40 years and who has a history of falling out with his employers and ending in court (more so than any other manager in the past 40 years)? What would you say to the 3 fans that have vowed to boycott all games until said capped manager is appointed? There were other available full time choices what would you say to the fans on here who think this is turning into a nightmare appointment before a ball is kicked .. However to answer your question directly it’s their choice as it is everyone’s Personally I’m on record as saying I can’t stand Pulis but I think he would have been committed not part time , he has relevant league experience and knows the club O’Neil is part time and has none of the above . As I said others have Similar to Pulis Pearson and Shakespeare as an example
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 9, 2019 14:13:36 GMT
1 he has never managed in England 2 he has never managed in the championship 3 his previous club career is Shamrock rovers and Brechin city He has no relevant experience at all the mangers of Montenegro , Khazikstan and Aberjan have equally relevant experience on the basis Pearson & Shakespeare , Pulis , Atkins , Pardew all have more relevant experience Didn’t require compensation and are available full time it’ stinks of something very very rotten Adkins isn't available, he's in a job. How many times have you castigated Stoke for paying Derby compensation for Rowett? I'd rather have you than Pardew. Pearson is a better candidate than some but he bombed at Derby and has been sacked by a second division side in Belgium Pulis... I'm not going over those arguments again. Managing N Ireland is far more relevant than those countries as all their players play in our leagues. His record at tiny Shamrock was impressive. Many times on Rowett that’s my point we didn’t need to , it was as proved utterly ridiculous but at roast he was here full time this bloke we’ve paid for and he is don’t. “A bit of a foreigner “
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Post by elystokie on Nov 9, 2019 14:17:46 GMT
I agree. Think 2 of 'note' were West Brom and Sunderland. Thanks mate I do remember Sunderland (I think) but can't remember any Baggies interest. We don't know that the circs were the same anyway. Do we? I don't think they were mate, he wasn't quite done with what he wanted to do with the national team iirc. I think I heard it when radio Stoke interviewed a reporter from a newspaper in N.I might have been the Belfast Telegraph? Spoke very highly of MON, as did the Chairman of Shamrock Rovers when they interviewed him, seems nobody has a bad word to say about him. Can't remember which interview was on which PnG out of Thursday and Friday, worth a listen tho, it's probably in an article online too.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 9, 2019 14:46:28 GMT
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Post by stokief on Nov 9, 2019 14:51:31 GMT
Oh look! We're somebody's Stoke City nowadays! Just shows Michael commands respect like Frankie boy Lampard and Steeeevviiiiee Gerraaard! GOARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN MICHAEL O'NEILL'S STOKE CITY!!
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Post by Absolution on Nov 9, 2019 14:59:19 GMT
I agree. MON may be the right man for the job, but we need 100% of his attention focused on keeping us up. You can’t serve two masters. I hope I am wrong. But this smacks of desperation. It smacks of Scholes protecting his job another nice manager they can manipulate. Has Scholes manipulated him into staying on as Northern Ireland manager? New manager's obviously a walkover.
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Post by zerps on Nov 9, 2019 16:00:35 GMT
MICHAEL OUT
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Post by norniron on Nov 9, 2019 16:13:42 GMT
Any Northern Irish Stokies about- who's going to replace MON as national boss then? The top 3 candidates are Stephen Robinson from Motherwell, Tommy Wright from St Johnstone and Ian Baraclough the current NI u21 manager. I would be happy enough with Robinson or Baraclough but not Tommy Wright. Someone on here mentioned Jimmy Nicholl, no chance of that happening.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 9, 2019 16:23:00 GMT
Any Northern Irish Stokies about- who's going to replace MON as national boss then? The top 3 candidates are Stephen Robinson from Motherwell, Tommy Wright from St Johnstone and Ian Baraclough the current NI u21 manager. I would be happy enough with Robinson or Baraclough but not Tommy Wright. Someone on here mentioned Jimmy Nicholl, no chance of that happening. Why not Wright out of interest?
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Post by norniron on Nov 9, 2019 16:36:13 GMT
The top 3 candidates are Stephen Robinson from Motherwell, Tommy Wright from St Johnstone and Ian Baraclough the current NI u21 manager. I would be happy enough with Robinson or Baraclough but not Tommy Wright. Someone on here mentioned Jimmy Nicholl, no chance of that happening. Why not Wright out of interest? He is a very old school manager, he plays negative football and regularly falls out with players, when you are working with a small panel of players like we have, who are playing for you through choice rather than being contracted to you like a club setup you have to work with the players and in some cases tread lightly, he doesn't have that level of tact.
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Post by x1jlf on Nov 9, 2019 16:40:28 GMT
No I am not. My point was ha e the board done due diligence first? A reasonable question don't you think. The rest of my post was quite positive. I said I believe we will win by 3 goals today and I am going to now confidentaly put a shiny pound on it on bet365😎
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Post by x1jlf on Nov 9, 2019 16:43:00 GMT
Get in there
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 16:44:40 GMT
The story of his insistence of continuing with NI is worryingIs this why some of the other clubs that were in for him before didnt materialise? Dont blame them if so. Wont be great for team morale surely? Now you see I read that totally differently. I see it as a positive. I see it as a man with the morals not to just run out on a job only half done when the big bucks are dangled. To me it makes him loyal and ethical which are good traits shirley? Just out of interest mate what other clubs were in for him? It could well be that way, I'm only assuming. No idea who other clubs were as it was what michael said in an interview (he never disclosed) After this game its seeming that you are right because the team dont seem too demoralised 😁😁
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Post by liathroid on Nov 9, 2019 16:52:11 GMT
If we lose today and he disappears for ten days then his tenure already has a great black cloud over it. It defies even the most basic of common sense. The owners have lost it I'm afraid. There is no other explanation. Are you really a Stoke fan? How the hell does 3 people moaning their bags off about a brilliant appointment equate to “his tenure has a great black cloud over it”??? I believe you were one of those who said “of course I will give the new guy, whoever he is, a fair crack at the whip”. How the hell does creating a minor shit storm on the “fan” website equate to giving him a fair chance? If you’re so anti everything to do with Stoke, why the hell go to the presence of being a fan? Or waste your time on a Stoke fan site. Good God! I cannot believe that Stokies are so bigoted that they have to resort to picking on the color of his nose or a very temporary arrangement for him not to leave the team he has built and nurtured for 8 years in the lurch. Buck up MoanMoan, give the guy a chance!
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