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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 10, 2019 7:17:24 GMT
Nothing at all. It is Pulis Physics, which you introduce that becomes problematic.
Fair play, mate. You’ve rumbled me there. No Nobel Prizes for the physics of 4-4-1-1. That's because in footballing terms 4-4-1-1 doesn't count as physics - it's for people who believe the earth is flat and the only reason the sun comes up in the morning is because the manager (aka Tonypulis III) pleasure themselves at dawn - like the ancient Pharaohs of Egypt.
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 10, 2019 7:25:14 GMT
It's obvious he's staying now but what of the way forward?. With four tough games ahead what stance to the board take?. Is it game by game?. Do they stick with him come what may and ride out any storm. Have they got potential replacements lined up?. Much to ponder.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 8:17:02 GMT
Hopefully we have turned the corner, reached rock bottom, call it what you will, and we can finally start to climb out of this absolute mess. Defeat against Fulham, and a poor points return (what would the Board consider that to be though ?) before the next international break would (and definitely should) see the pressure on Jones increase even more with action being taken at long last.
If that were to happen the Board couldn't continue to do nothing..............could it ?
I think they're just sitting and hoping things improve and I'd be very surprised if they've taken any real pro-active steps to replace Jones if the situation stays the same. How long can they give him if results continue to be as utterly abysmal as we've seen so far. Maybe they're working on their usual "January transfer window/Fa cup 3rd round exit to a lower league team" cut off point before they possibly do anything.
Lessons learned and all that.
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 10, 2019 8:27:24 GMT
Thanks for that. Wilder had a very difficult start at Sheffield United; look where they are now.
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Post by stokeson on Oct 10, 2019 12:21:04 GMT
It's obvious he's staying now but what of the way forward?. With four tough games ahead what stance to the board take?. Is it game by game?. Do they stick with him come what may and ride out any storm. Have they got potential replacements lined up?. Much to ponder. They will stick with him till its too late to stave off relegation as usual. (need to win the next 3 to even get out of the zone.) " In Nathan we Trust".........
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Post by karl on Oct 10, 2019 12:55:20 GMT
I think we tend to do well against the top teams it's the ones at the lower end of the table that park the bus we struggle with. So Nathan Jones has a good chance of getting a good points total from the next few fixtures.
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 10, 2019 13:00:44 GMT
I think the Swansea game suited us better than maybe a lower positioned team, they came at us and made it an open game, I think we struggle when teams sit back and hit us on the counter. On paper it seemed like a really tough match, possibly his last, but in the end it worked in his favour.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 10, 2019 14:44:17 GMT
It's obvious he's staying now but what of the way forward?. With four tough games ahead what stance to the board take?. Is it game by game?. Do they stick with him come what may and ride out any storm. Have they got potential replacements lined up?. Much to ponder. They will stick with him till its too late to stave off relegation as usual. (need to win the next 3 to even get out of the zone.) " In Nathan we Trust"......... No we don’t. A biggish win will see us overtake Huddersfield on goal difference. We are therefore three points or one win from getting out of the ‘zone’.
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Post by georgieboy52 on Oct 10, 2019 14:48:58 GMT
They will stick with him till its too late to stave off relegation as usual. (need to win the next 3 to even get out of the zone.) " In Nathan we Trust"......... No we don’t. A biggish win will see us overtake Huddersfield on goal difference. We are therefore three points or one win from getting out of the ‘zone’. How much are you prepared to bet on "we" getting those 3 points ?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 10, 2019 14:53:57 GMT
No we don’t. A biggish win will see us overtake Huddersfield on goal difference. We are therefore three points or one win from getting out of the ‘zone’. How much are you prepared to bet on "we" getting those 3 points ? I’m not a betting person. I was simply pointing out the wildly inaccurate claptrap being peddled about our current league position.
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Post by georgieboy52 on Oct 10, 2019 14:57:20 GMT
How much are you prepared to bet on "we" getting those 3 points ? I’m not a betting person. I was simply pointing out the wildly inaccurate claptrap being peddled about our current league position. Stoke are propping up the league they are in. That's a fact.
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Post by stokefc on Oct 10, 2019 15:08:25 GMT
I’m not a betting person. I was simply pointing out the wildly inaccurate claptrap being peddled about our current league position. Stoke are propping up the league they are in. That's a fact. yeah , 11 games in ,like he said claptrap
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 10, 2019 16:16:03 GMT
I’m not a betting person. I was simply pointing out the wildly inaccurate claptrap being peddled about our current league position. Stoke are propping up the league they are in. That's a fact. That’s not a fact. That’s an Idiom. Stoke aren’t ‘propping up’ the league. To ‘prop up’ means to support or to help. Stoke are bottom of the Championship table. That’s a fact.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 10, 2019 16:33:18 GMT
They will stick with him till its too late to stave off relegation as usual. (need to win the next 3 to even get out of the zone.) " In Nathan we Trust"......... No we don’t. A biggish win will see us overtake Huddersfield on goal difference. We are therefore three points or one win from getting out of the ‘zone’. We don't do 'biggish wins'. We haven't scored more than twice in a game for 22 months.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 10, 2019 16:35:42 GMT
No we don’t. A biggish win will see us overtake Huddersfield on goal difference. We are therefore three points or one win from getting out of the ‘zone’. We don't do 'biggish wins'. We haven't scored more than twice in a game for 22 months. Ok a 1-0 win with Huddersfield losing by 5. But that wasn’t the point as you well know😉
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Post by stokeson on Oct 10, 2019 16:45:31 GMT
We don't do 'biggish wins'. We haven't scored more than twice in a game for 22 months. Ok a 1-0 win with Huddersfield losing by 5. But that wasn’t the point as you well know😉 the point is we have a crap manager and you dont belive it.....
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 10, 2019 17:02:43 GMT
Ok a 1-0 win with Huddersfield losing by 5. But that wasn’t the point as you well know😉 the point is we have a crap manager and you dont belive it..... Once again you post wild inaccuracies. You make an assumption about me that you have no way of knowing. But either way whether or not Jones is crap or not wasn’t the point of my post. The point of my post was to correct the wild inaccuracy in your post that we are marooned at the bottom requiring 3 wins to get out of the ‘zone’.
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Post by march4 on Oct 10, 2019 19:11:56 GMT
Since we beat Watford, sorry Swansea, have the Board decided they are going to stick with this failing manager?
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Post by neddy on Oct 10, 2019 19:27:30 GMT
Since we beat Watford, sorry Swansea, have the Board decided they are going to stick with this failing manager? Yes I think so mate!
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 10, 2019 20:30:53 GMT
Michael O'Neill stock rising a bit more tonight after another gritty Norn Iron performance in Holland. (although looks like they're going to lose) Odds haven't shifted at all, unsurprisingly, since the weekend
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 20:35:51 GMT
Michael O'Neill stock rising a bit more tonight after another gritty Norn Iron performance in Holland. He’s an excellent manager. Sunderland could do a lot worse....
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 10, 2019 20:38:42 GMT
Michael O'Neill stock rising a bit more tonight after another gritty Norn Iron performance in Holland. He’s an excellent manager. Sunderland could do a lot worse.... It is always hard to see how international management translates though. But you can't help but be impressed with what he does with the players at his disposal. Looks like Sunderland are going down the Gareth Ainsworth route, according to Percy
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 20:45:00 GMT
He’s an excellent manager. Sunderland could do a lot worse.... It is always hard to see how international management translates though. But you can't help but be impressed with what he does with the players at his disposal. Looks like Sunderland are going down the Gareth Ainsworth route, according to Percy Lost 3-1 to 2 injury time goals!! To get Northern Ireland as competitive as he has is impressive though.....
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 10, 2019 20:53:25 GMT
I am still puzzled why he suddenly appeared from nowhere to favourite..Read no links at all to him with us..
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Post by davethebass on Oct 10, 2019 21:01:33 GMT
Wow bloody typo police lol it was early ...... Yeah bloody typo police, it could have been ebb, elk, eel, ilk, oik - they all mean much of a muchness don't they? In fact why are we bothering with meanings of words at all? Surely just a random bunch of letters would do the same job ffs. Gdryg kufrc very out fifty kgcdrtgv!!
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Post by davethebass on Oct 10, 2019 21:03:26 GMT
Yeah bloody typo police, it could have been ebb, elk, eel, ilk, oik - they all mean much of a muchness don't they? In fact why are we bothering with meanings of words at all? Surely just a random bunch of letters would do the same job ffs. Gdryg kufrc very out fifty kgcdrtgv!! Flaming spell check, there was 3 actual eords there!
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Post by davethebass on Oct 10, 2019 21:03:46 GMT
*words
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Post by georgieboy52 on Oct 10, 2019 22:35:30 GMT
Stoke are propping up the league they are in. That's a fact. That’s not a fact. That’s an Idiom. Stoke aren’t ‘propping up’ the league. To ‘prop up’ means to support or to help. Stoke are bottom of the Championship table. That’s a fact. The fact is you knew what I meant. Pedant.
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 10, 2019 23:46:33 GMT
Thanks for that. Wilder had a very difficult start at Sheffield United; look where they are now. You cannot compare Wilder's start at United to Stoke's. Yes they only got 1 point from the first 4 games, but after that started winning every game in sight. So he stalled for 4 games compared to Jones' 30!!!....hardly comparable! The other reason you can't compare these 2 is that Wilder was a hugely popular appointment at United being a well known fanatical Blades fan and ex player, familiar to people in the area and very highly respected here even before he got the job. I work in Sheffield and Wilder could have probably lost the first 10 games and still been given full support. His record at United is phenomenal.
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Post by davethebass on Oct 11, 2019 0:51:25 GMT
It's great how this message board wavers between the accuracy of a laser and the wildness of a sawn off shotgun blast never ceases to amaze me😁😎 The words 'sublime' and 'ridiculous' immediately spring to mind. Our physics philosophy and psychology discussion was a quantum superposition state of both! It seems like Nathan has achieved a superposition state of both sacked and not sacked!!
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