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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 28, 2019 7:53:37 GMT
Fucking hate Agents, greedy pricks the lot of them. Hold firm Stoke it's shocking they released this to the press, can we change the thread title as well, as we are accused not guilty at this point Don’t forget we recruited a “highly experienced” agent (not) as Technical Director to manage the recruitment process.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 28, 2019 7:57:26 GMT
Brilliant, so not only did we give an under-contract Choupo away for free to one of the richest clubs in the world, we’re now going to get stung for cocking up his agents payment. You couldn’t make this shit up. Have you actually bothered to read the article? "Choupo-Moting signed a three year deal worth an estimated £20million, including sign-on fees." I would suggest that we did very well - or got very lucky - in getting Choupo-Moting off the wage bill, especially bearing in mind the trouble we're having doing likewise with Wimmer, Imbula, N'Diaye etc. It's just a petty we spunked some of the money we saved up the wall during last summer's transfer window, but that's another argument. I would suggest giving and under-contract player away for free is terrible business, especially when the club is PSG. I don’t care how much he was earning, he’d have had a wage drop when we went down like everyone else. He was one of the few players we had that season who at times actually resembled something of a Premier League footballer. Was it really beyond the realms of possibility that we couldn’t even get a couple of million for him?
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Post by Davef on Aug 28, 2019 8:33:05 GMT
Have you actually bothered to read the article? "Choupo-Moting signed a three year deal worth an estimated £20million, including sign-on fees." I would suggest that we did very well - or got very lucky - in getting Choupo-Moting off the wage bill, especially bearing in mind the trouble we're having doing likewise with Wimmer, Imbula, N'Diaye etc. It's just a petty we spunked some of the money we saved up the wall during last summer's transfer window, but that's another argument. I would suggest giving and under-contract player away for free is terrible business, especially when the club is PSG. I don’t care how much he was earning, he’d have had a wage drop when we went down like everyone else. He was one of the few players we had that season who at times actually resembled something of a Premier League footballer. Was it really beyond the realms of possibility that we couldn’t even get a couple of million for him? My understanding is that his contract was cancelled by mutual consent and that PSG took it over completely. There were even suggestions that Choupo-Moting, at the behest of his father, had even paid back his first year's salary, but that might not be true. What do you think PSG would've done if we'd have started demanding a transfer fee?
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 28, 2019 8:54:02 GMT
I would suggest giving and under-contract player away for free is terrible business, especially when the club is PSG. I don’t care how much he was earning, he’d have had a wage drop when we went down like everyone else. He was one of the few players we had that season who at times actually resembled something of a Premier League footballer. Was it really beyond the realms of possibility that we couldn’t even get a couple of million for him? My understanding is that his contract was cancelled by mutual consent and that PSG took it over completely. There were even suggestions that Choupo-Moting, at the behest of his father, had even paid back his first year's salary, but that might not be true. What do you think PSG would've done if we'd have started demanding a transfer fee? With the resources PSG have, I would fully expect them to take over his contract and it not even make a tiny dent in their wage bill. Why wouldn’t we demand a transfer fee for a player under contract though? Am I missing something? I can’t think of any other club that just gives players away for free. If PSG refused to pay a transfer fee then we tell them to stuff it and get his agent to find another club. I really don’t think we would have struggled finding a club willing to pay a smallish fee for him, and take on his contract.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Aug 28, 2019 9:00:40 GMT
I still don't believe he went to PSG Skillz bruh!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 28, 2019 9:10:58 GMT
My understanding is that his contract was cancelled by mutual consent and that PSG took it over completely. There were even suggestions that Choupo-Moting, at the behest of his father, had even paid back his first year's salary, but that might not be true. What do you think PSG would've done if we'd have started demanding a transfer fee? With the resources PSG have, I would fully expect them to take over his contract and it not even make a tiny dent in their wage bill. Why wouldn’t we demand a transfer fee for a player under contract though? Am I missing something? I can’t think of any other club that just gives players away for free. If PSG refused to pay a transfer fee then we tell them to stuff it and get his agent to find another club. I really don’t think we would have struggled finding a club willing to pay a smallish fee for him, and take on his contract. Because we were desperate to get the fat useless waster off the wage bill. And as he came on a free, and if as Dave alluded to he'd paid back the wages we'd paid him, he cost us nothing. Which is about right.
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 28, 2019 9:14:07 GMT
Tony's on a well deserved holiday, even my calls are going straight to voice mail. I dont know why but I Just fell about laughing at that comment !!!! Genius General 😂
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 28, 2019 9:16:25 GMT
I wonder if this is tied into Carto looking for pastures new? Whether it was Carto or Teflon who paid the "wrong" agent only one of them was ever going to take the fall for it.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 28, 2019 9:18:59 GMT
With the resources PSG have, I would fully expect them to take over his contract and it not even make a tiny dent in their wage bill. Why wouldn’t we demand a transfer fee for a player under contract though? Am I missing something? I can’t think of any other club that just gives players away for free. If PSG refused to pay a transfer fee then we tell them to stuff it and get his agent to find another club. I really don’t think we would have struggled finding a club willing to pay a smallish fee for him, and take on his contract. Because we were desperate to get the fat useless waster off the wage bill. And as he came on a free, and if as Dave alluded to he'd paid back the wages we'd paid him, he cost us nothing. Which is about right. I get all that, although I don’t buy for a minute that he paid back his wages. We still could have gotten him off the wage bill AND made a profit on him. It just seems we accepted the first offer that came along for him. He should have been one of the easier players to shift as like I said, he did actually look like a Premier League footballer at times. You can’t tell me there’s not a single club out there that wouldn’t have given us even a couple of million for him.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 28, 2019 9:37:46 GMT
Because we were desperate to get the fat useless waster off the wage bill. And as he came on a free, and if as Dave alluded to he'd paid back the wages we'd paid him, he cost us nothing. Which is about right. I get all that, although I don’t buy for a minute that he paid back his wages. We still could have gotten him off the wage bill AND made a profit on him. It just seems we accepted the first offer that came along for him. He should have been one of the easier players to shift as like I said, he did actually look like a Premier League footballer at times. You can’t tell me there’s not a single club out there that wouldn’t have given us even a couple of million for him. The problem would have been his wages. We've seen with the other piles of shite we're trying to offload, no foreign team who wants them can come near matching the wages we are paying them. PSG are one of the few continental teams that could and so I assume we took the pragmatic approach of not looking a gift horse in the mouth and got rid while we could once we'd picked ourselves up off the floor due to the fact that they actually wanted him. If he'd still been here bumming around with the other wastrels being paid to do nothing it would have cost us more in the long run than we would have made back on a transfer fee.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Aug 28, 2019 11:07:41 GMT
Tony's on a well deserved holiday, even my calls are going straight to voice mail. May be they are holding him hostage until payment , I think we all know the next line options . I hope he isn't doing his own negotiating!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 11:20:29 GMT
They probably accidentally sent the payment to Beswicks. Went into autopilot when doing it so an easy mistake to make 😉
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Post by jimmygscfc on Aug 28, 2019 11:26:43 GMT
If he did pay back his wages, PSG would have just paid it back in the form of a golden handshake.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 28, 2019 19:25:50 GMT
May be they are holding him hostage until payment , I think we all know the next line options . I hope he isn't doing his own negotiating! Good next line !!! 😏
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 28, 2019 19:31:57 GMT
I bet Mr Happi wishes he represented Mr Messi. He already represents Mr Greedy It was Mr. Dopey doing the deal on our side.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Aug 28, 2019 21:51:37 GMT
Never mind his agent we shouldn’t have paid him.
Mercenary wanker.
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Post by chumley on Aug 29, 2019 7:55:41 GMT
Maybe it's because he told Stoke we were signing a footballer who would give 100% so technically speaking he's breached sale of goods act as he wasn't fit for the purpose that we signed him for. Tell him and Eric to cock right off.
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Post by PolPotter on Aug 29, 2019 19:02:53 GMT
Just as Smudge said we conducted ourselves impeccably as regard paying what we owe. He said that we do our business properly in regard to paying former players and managers. You'd know that if you read his article properly. That's a bit pissy of you, just because he didn't quote your mate word for word. We got the point he was trying to make.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 30, 2019 11:07:29 GMT
A someone who works in a finance role , paying the wrong agent sounds weird , they must have been instructed to pay the other one by somebody senior if the story is correct.
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