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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 20:06:19 GMT
Give over JACK wants out. If he wanted out that badly to perform like this on purpose he would have forced a move. Not turned up for preseason. Refused to play. Of course in an ideal world he wouldn’t be here but he’s not doing this on purpose is my point. [/quote Cause he is not doing it on purpose,he would never get a move if he did that, nobody would touch him, but he definitely lacks something, his head is not here at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 20:27:24 GMT
Jack's problems began with his ankle injury when he was playing for England. He's never been the player he was before that injury. Even so, what we're seeing now is way beyond worse than he was immediately after the injury. For whatever reason/s, he's lost most of his confidence and his head is on wrong. A good 'keeper has to be much like a boxer - have amazing reflexes and agility. The first two goals he let in last night were appalling, but he literally watched the ball go past him for the 3rd goal without any reaction whatsoever. De Gea would have pounced on that, no problem. For his own sake (and ours) he needs dropping and booked in to see a top class sports psychologist and he shouldn't come back until he's in tip-top shape and his head is straight again. As any top class sportsperson will tell you, if you're not right mentally then that's just as bad as a physical injury. My grandson's Long-jump coach is Ben Williams from Stoke who recently jumped 17.14 metres to win the Triple-jump at the three day European event and qualified for the World Championships and the Tokyo Olympics with that jump. Two years ago he had a horrific injury that could have ended his career. During the last two years he's had an operation and worked his bollox off to get back to fitness and become the same athlete he was when he became the World Junior Triple-jump Champion. During his rehabilitation he's had to see a sports psychologist to keep him going. The reason I've mentioned this is because I see a striking resenblance to what has happened to Jack as has happened to Ben. Let's hope he gets back to being the top class keeper he once was. OS. I approve but it's more than just Jack who needs a sport psychologist. They all do. And Nathan Jones should skip a bible class and come too.
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Aug 22, 2019 20:28:41 GMT
Symptomatic of a complete lack of confidence throughout the squad symptomatic of the manager blaming everyone but himself
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Post by Fred Ferret on Aug 22, 2019 20:41:22 GMT
Im sorry, but that is utter bollocks It’s not though. He was one of the biggest reasons we went down. There were lots of reasons but him letting soft goals in killed us. Your utter bollocks have no bounds.
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Post by GoBoks on Aug 22, 2019 20:57:54 GMT
You have a word with yourself. Suggesting he’s doing it on purpose is ridiculous. You only have to look at the expressions on his face to see there’s something really wrong. Of course he probably wanted to move but to suggest he’s now deliberately acting up is ridiculous. Butland clearly hadn’t planned on being here this season. He’s probably had it in his head for the past 12 months or more that he’d be back in the Premier League by now. His expression tonight simply mirrored his fall from grace. Is he bothered that Stoke have just lost again and are bottom of the league? Is he bollocks. Is he bothered that he’s gone from being an international goalkeeper to a likely 2nd choice Championship goalkeeper? Absolutely. Agree 100%. These footballers must be as stupid as a telephone pole! Footballer Logic: - My team was relegated - No worries, I'l get another offer to play at some other Prem team - Hmm no one came in for me, that's disappointing. Unlucky that everyone is well covered I guess - I don't think I can commit to playing for a Championship team - No offers, I guess I'm stuck till December - This is so demotivating - This team keeps losing, it's making me look bad - I couldn't be arsed to try, just 1 more month till the window opens - What!?!? No offers, this team is causing me to sink into obscurity - C'Mon! I am soooo much better than having to play against Brentford - Gee this team is crap, they let Brentford put 3 past me, It'll soon be summer and I'm out of here......
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Post by ct1 on Aug 22, 2019 22:08:15 GMT
Butland has been brought down a peg of two. If I was in his position I wouldn’t have the nerve to post on social media after a 2-2 fucking draw with Derby at home. He’s a year older than me and in one whole week he earns twice what I earn in a year. Have you thought of looking for a better job? (its a joke!!)
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 22, 2019 22:21:54 GMT
He’s been a liability for 3 years now. Im sorry, but that is utter bollocks Tbf the mistakes haven't suddenly started, he's been making them for a while.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 22, 2019 22:22:48 GMT
Symptomatic of a complete lack of confidence throughout the squad symptomatic of the manager blaming everyone but himself Apart from when he blamed himself right
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 23, 2019 0:33:06 GMT
Im sorry, but that is utter bollocks Tbf the mistakes haven't suddenly started, he's been making them for a while. Agreed, but to say he has been a liability for the last three years is way wide of the mark
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 7:36:57 GMT
symptomatic of the manager blaming everyone but himself Apart from when he blamed himself right He hasn’t blamed himself. Unless you are counting the maybe I was wrong thinking we had no bad eggs and suddenly we do...which is very much along the lines of the old “it’s my fault because I’ve been too trusting” woe is me “blaming himself” trotted out by by Mr Rowett... When asked if there was anything wrong with say, his formation, Jones said his formation was fine, there was nothing wrong with it, it worked for 8 whole minutes! Even the interviewer didn’t quite know what to say and the pundits in the studio didn’t either.
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Post by SCFC92 on Aug 23, 2019 7:47:24 GMT
Apart from when he blamed himself right He hasn’t blamed himself. Unless you are counting the maybe I was wrong thinking we had no bad eggs and suddenly we do...which is very much along the lines of the old “it’s my fault because I’ve been too trusting” woe is me “blaming himself” trotted out by by Mr Rowett... When asked if there was anything wrong with say, his formation, Jones said his formation was fine, there was nothing wrong with it, it worked for 8 whole minutes! Even the interviewer didn’t quite know what to say and the pundits in the studio didn’t either. The 8 minutes point is all around the fact a shocking error has cost us momentum that we were building. Same as every bastard match. Each of their goals was avoidable and it was player error that cost us NOT the formation. 1. Allen Running away from the ball, Woods standing like a statue and Butland Error 2. Butland Howler 3. Etebo Howler We are sucker punching ourselves. Off the back of this he then has gone on to blame an atmosphere still at the club that he thought had been removed, alluding to the fact some of the players heads may not be in it. What will be telling is the team selection tomorrow, I am as gutted and angry as the next guy, however we must give Jones a chance to turn it around. And that starts with pulling the plug on some of our team. Get them out of the firing line. Allen, Butland and now Batth are being slammed by our fans on Social, on here and even by the pundits. That is going to get in any players head when confidence is as low as it is at the moment. It's all tough at the moment, the last thing we need is character assassinations of a bright young British manager as well, bought in to try and steer the sinking tank around, some of the things I have read the last few days on social, here and in the media regarding the manager of our team have actually disgusted me. I genuinely think some of you on here enjoy moaning, and being negative. But the feeling in the stands is clearly the same as the feeling on the pitch, and it is that that is Jones' biggest task in turning around now. Because the players and the system on the pitch should be a game for any team in this league.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 7:53:37 GMT
He hasn’t blamed himself. Unless you are counting the maybe I was wrong thinking we had no bad eggs and suddenly we do...which is very much along the lines of the old “it’s my fault because I’ve been too trusting” woe is me “blaming himself” trotted out by by Mr Rowett... When asked if there was anything wrong with say, his formation, Jones said his formation was fine, there was nothing wrong with it, it worked for 8 whole minutes! Even the interviewer didn’t quite know what to say and the pundits in the studio didn’t either. The 8 minutes point is all around the fact a shocking error has cost us momentum that we were building. Same as every bastard match. Each of their goals was avoidable and it was player error that cost us NOT the formation. 1. Allen Running away from the ball, Woods standing like a statue and Butland Error 2. Butland Howler 3. Etebo Howler We are sucker punching ourselves. Off the back of this he then has gone on to blame an atmosphere still at the club that he thought had been removed, alluding to the fact some of the players heads may not be in it. What will be telling is the team selection tomorrow, I am as gutted and angry as the next guy, however we must give Jones a chance to turn it around. And that starts with pulling the plug on some of our team. Get them out of the firing line. Allen, Butland and now Batth are being slammed by our fans on Social, on here and even by the pundits. That is going to get in any players head when confidence is as low as it is at the moment. It's all tough at the moment, the last thing we need is character assassinations of a bright young British manager as well, bought in to try and steer the sinking tank around, some of the things I have read the last few days on social, here and in the media regarding the manager of our team have actually disgusted me. I genuinely think some of you on here enjoy moaning, and being negative. But the feeling in the stands is clearly the same as the feeling on the pitch, and it is that that is Jones' biggest task in turning around now. Because the players and the system on the pitch should be a game for any team in this league. The whole interview was an embarrassment. I don’t get this about Jones “turning this around” - he’s literally now having to turn around the mess he’s made. If anything people have been more supportive because he’s an up and coming British manager and seems like a nice block despite the the fact he’s been a complete and utter disaster since he arrived Just him after pre season when he’s got his own players is what he asked that’s what’s being done. And guess what - we’re fucking worse? Of course the individual mistakes have been horrendous but we are literally wide open how he is playing. And he’s told every other team in league what we’re doing so it’s easy to counter it anyway! It’s the players he keeps choosing making the mistakes. And he’s signed a load of players - most of which he isn’t even playing. So don’t give me a lecture on being overly negative when we’re sat at the bottom of league with one point and not looking like we have a hope in hell of knowing how to sort it out. It’s a mess he is now responsible for making.
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Post by SCFC92 on Aug 23, 2019 7:57:28 GMT
The 8 minutes point is all around the fact a shocking error has cost us momentum that we were building. Same as every bastard match. Each of their goals was avoidable and it was player error that cost us NOT the formation. 1. Allen Running away from the ball, Woods standing like a statue and Butland Error 2. Butland Howler 3. Etebo Howler We are sucker punching ourselves. Off the back of this he then has gone on to blame an atmosphere still at the club that he thought had been removed, alluding to the fact some of the players heads may not be in it. What will be telling is the team selection tomorrow, I am as gutted and angry as the next guy, however we must give Jones a chance to turn it around. And that starts with pulling the plug on some of our team. Get them out of the firing line. Allen, Butland and now Batth are being slammed by our fans on Social, on here and even by the pundits. That is going to get in any players head when confidence is as low as it is at the moment. It's all tough at the moment, the last thing we need is character assassinations of a bright young British manager as well, bought in to try and steer the sinking tank around, some of the things I have read the last few days on social, here and in the media regarding the manager of our team have actually disgusted me. I genuinely think some of you on here enjoy moaning, and being negative. But the feeling in the stands is clearly the same as the feeling on the pitch, and it is that that is Jones' biggest task in turning around now. Because the players and the system on the pitch should be a game for any team in this league. The whole interview was an embarrassment. I don’t get this about Jones “turning this around” - he’s literally now having to turn around the mess he’s made. If anything people have been more supportive because he’s an up and coming British manager and seems like a nice block despite the the fact he’s been a complete and utter disaster since he arrived Just him after pre season when he’s got his own players is what he asked that’s what’s being done. And guess what - we’re fucking worse? Of course the individual mistakes have been horrendous but we are literally wide open how he is playing. And he’s told every other team in league what we’re doing so it’s easy to counter it anyway! It’s the players he keeps choosing making the mistakes. And he’s signed a load of players - most of which he isn’t even playing. So don’t give me a lecture on being overly negative when we’re sat at the bottom of league with one point and not looking like we have a hope in hell of knowing how to sort it out. It’s a mess he is now responsible for making. The mess is 4 years in the making. We have nowhere to turn. We aren't worse, we just keep making ridiculous errors in the opening minutes of a game which sets the tone. We need to get nasty during the first 10 minutes of a match, Woods or Cousins need to kick shit out of anyone who tries to pass them during the first 10 minutes, a proper yellow card cruncher to allow us to set the tone for once. The negativity has been there from the moment we started making signings in the summer, it's been longer than just this season Jones however will turn this around, starting with a 2-1 victory against Leeds
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 23, 2019 7:58:06 GMT
Im sorry, but that is utter bollocks It’s not though. He was one of the biggest reasons we went down. There were lots of reasons but him letting soft goals in killed us. Bayern you know full well Jack can't be blamed for anything he's untouchable for some despite that fact he's been shit for some time. They only remember when he does things right(for a change) they forget Leicester and so on. They just say he saved us a point against Derby. When in reality he's cost us 9 to start with so a net -8 pts so far.
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 23, 2019 8:01:12 GMT
He hasn’t blamed himself. Unless you are counting the maybe I was wrong thinking we had no bad eggs and suddenly we do...which is very much along the lines of the old “it’s my fault because I’ve been too trusting” woe is me “blaming himself” trotted out by by Mr Rowett... When asked if there was anything wrong with say, his formation, Jones said his formation was fine, there was nothing wrong with it, it worked for 8 whole minutes! Even the interviewer didn’t quite know what to say and the pundits in the studio didn’t either. The 8 minutes point is all around the fact a shocking error has cost us momentum that we were building. Same as every bastard match. Each of their goals was avoidable and it was player error that cost us NOT the formation. 1. Allen Running away from the ball, Woods standing like a statue and Butland Error 2. Butland Howler 3. Etebo Howler We are sucker punching ourselves. Off the back of this he then has gone on to blame an atmosphere still at the club that he thought had been removed, alluding to the fact some of the players heads may not be in it. What will be telling is the team selection tomorrow, I am as gutted and angry as the next guy, however we must give Jones a chance to turn it around. And that starts with pulling the plug on some of our team. Get them out of the firing line. Allen, Butland and now Batth are being slammed by our fans on Social, on here and even by the pundits. That is going to get in any players head when confidence is as low as it is at the moment. It's all tough at the moment, the last thing we need is character assassinations of a bright young British manager as well, bought in to try and steer the sinking tank around, some of the things I have read the last few days on social, here and in the media regarding the manager of our team have actually disgusted me. I genuinely think some of you on here enjoy moaning, and being negative. But the feeling in the stands is clearly the same as the feeling on the pitch, and it is that that is Jones' biggest task in turning around now. Because the players and the system on the pitch should be a game for any team in this league. You're wasting tour breath mate this place is a walking contradiction read the match day thread most are slagging players off for errors. Then later it's NJ fault....minds made up regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 8:04:39 GMT
The whole interview was an embarrassment. I don’t get this about Jones “turning this around” - he’s literally now having to turn around the mess he’s made. If anything people have been more supportive because he’s an up and coming British manager and seems like a nice block despite the the fact he’s been a complete and utter disaster since he arrived Just him after pre season when he’s got his own players is what he asked that’s what’s being done. And guess what - we’re fucking worse? Of course the individual mistakes have been horrendous but we are literally wide open how he is playing. And he’s told every other team in league what we’re doing so it’s easy to counter it anyway! It’s the players he keeps choosing making the mistakes. And he’s signed a load of players - most of which he isn’t even playing. So don’t give me a lecture on being overly negative when we’re sat at the bottom of league with one point and not looking like we have a hope in hell of knowing how to sort it out. It’s a mess he is now responsible for making. The mess is 4 years in the making. We have nowhere to turn. We aren't worse, we just keep making ridiculous errors in the opening minutes of a game which sets the tone. We need to get nasty during the first 10 minutes of a match, Woods or Cousins need to kick shit out of anyone who tries to pass them during the first 10 minutes, a proper yellow card cruncher to allow us to set the tone for once. The negativity has been there from the moment we started making signings in the summer, it's been longer than just this season Jones however will turn this around, starting with a 2-1 victory against Leeds Give over 4 years in the making. There’s 3 players left from that era. He’s had a bomb squad. He’s signed 11 players. He’s had 8 months and a preseason. There’s no excuses for us being worse. The negativity was there will the signings because albeit that most of them seem decent they weren’t better than what we had and clearly don’t fit his system. Which they don’t. He’s not even playing most of them. Three things have cost us over the last 4 years: 1. Being wedded to a system you don’t have the players for 2. Not buying better players than that we had 3. Not recruiting in the positions we most desperately need Jones is repeating all three of those mistakes. It’s not being negative. I know it’s not nice and believe me I would look to have your positivity but I can’t just can’t see any evidence of that from what he’s done in the last 8 months.
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 23, 2019 8:07:13 GMT
Apart from when he blamed himself right He hasn’t blamed himself. Unless you are counting the maybe I was wrong thinking we had no bad eggs and suddenly we do...which is very much along the lines of the old “it’s my fault because I’ve been too trusting” woe is me “blaming himself” trotted out by by Mr Rowett... When asked if there was anything wrong with say, his formation, Jones said his formation was fine, there was nothing wrong with it, it worked for 8 whole minutes! Even the interviewer didn’t quite know what to say and the pundits in the studio didn’t either. Blamed himself for subing Woods!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 8:09:08 GMT
He hasn’t blamed himself. Unless you are counting the maybe I was wrong thinking we had no bad eggs and suddenly we do...which is very much along the lines of the old “it’s my fault because I’ve been too trusting” woe is me “blaming himself” trotted out by by Mr Rowett... When asked if there was anything wrong with say, his formation, Jones said his formation was fine, there was nothing wrong with it, it worked for 8 whole minutes! Even the interviewer didn’t quite know what to say and the pundits in the studio didn’t either. Blamed himself for subing Woods!!! True.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 23, 2019 8:13:34 GMT
Apart from when he blamed himself right He hasn’t blamed himself. Unless you are counting the maybe I was wrong thinking we had no bad eggs and suddenly we do...which is very much along the lines of the old “it’s my fault because I’ve been too trusting” woe is me “blaming himself” trotted out by by Mr Rowett... When asked if there was anything wrong with say, his formation, Jones said his formation was fine, there was nothing wrong with it, it worked for 8 whole minutes! Even the interviewer didn’t quite know what to say and the pundits in the studio didn’t either. I wasn't on about just this interview, he's right about the 8 mins to a point as SCFC92 says we were gaining momentum and to concede so early in games it completely fucks you over, the game plan pretty much goes out of the window and its been down to the players every time, show me a goal we have conceded this season that was well worked and a bit of great play and wasn't a fault of the players.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 8:20:40 GMT
He hasn’t blamed himself. Unless you are counting the maybe I was wrong thinking we had no bad eggs and suddenly we do...which is very much along the lines of the old “it’s my fault because I’ve been too trusting” woe is me “blaming himself” trotted out by by Mr Rowett... When asked if there was anything wrong with say, his formation, Jones said his formation was fine, there was nothing wrong with it, it worked for 8 whole minutes! Even the interviewer didn’t quite know what to say and the pundits in the studio didn’t either. I wasn't on about just this interview, he's right about the 8 mins to a point as SCFC92 says we were gaining momentum and to concede so early in games it completely fucks you over, the game plan pretty much goes out of the window and its been down to the players every time, show me a goal we have conceded this season that was well worked and a bit of great play and wasn't a fault of the players. But it doesn’t need to be a great bit of play and people are making mistakes but every team is biding their time because they know we are wide open
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 23, 2019 8:23:44 GMT
He hasn’t blamed himself. Unless you are counting the maybe I was wrong thinking we had no bad eggs and suddenly we do...which is very much along the lines of the old “it’s my fault because I’ve been too trusting” woe is me “blaming himself” trotted out by by Mr Rowett... When asked if there was anything wrong with say, his formation, Jones said his formation was fine, there was nothing wrong with it, it worked for 8 whole minutes! Even the interviewer didn’t quite know what to say and the pundits in the studio didn’t either. I wasn't on about just this interview, he's right about the 8 mins to a point as SCFC92 says we were gaining momentum and to concede so early in games it completely fucks you over, the game plan pretty much goes out of the window and its been down to the players every time, show me a goal we have conceded this season that was well worked and a bit of great play and wasn't a fault of the players. Exactly blame the formation blame the manager blame everything bar the wankness of our players. The may train fucking brilliantly all week Butland saves everything then come game time boom cluster fuck time how in God's earth is he to blame for that. They all assume they are just as wank in training and he still picks the wankers players.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 8:28:10 GMT
I wasn't on about just this interview, he's right about the 8 mins to a point as SCFC92 says we were gaining momentum and to concede so early in games it completely fucks you over, the game plan pretty much goes out of the window and its been down to the players every time, show me a goal we have conceded this season that was well worked and a bit of great play and wasn't a fault of the players. Exactly blame the formation blame the manager blame everything bar the wankness of our players. The may train fucking brilliantly all week Butland saves everything then come game time boom cluster fuck time how in God's earth is he to blame for that. They all assume they are just as wank in training and he still picks the wankers players. I’m beyond giving a shit about what they are like in training. It’s what they are doing on the pitch and he’s still picking them. He’s not even picking the players he bought so why did he by them? It’s not his fault Butland is in poor form but there’s a hell of a lot of other alarm bells ringing and the buck stops somewhere.
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 23, 2019 8:29:04 GMT
He hasn’t blamed himself. Unless you are counting the maybe I was wrong thinking we had no bad eggs and suddenly we do...which is very much along the lines of the old “it’s my fault because I’ve been too trusting” woe is me “blaming himself” trotted out by by Mr Rowett... When asked if there was anything wrong with say, his formation, Jones said his formation was fine, there was nothing wrong with it, it worked for 8 whole minutes! Even the interviewer didn’t quite know what to say and the pundits in the studio didn’t either. The 8 minutes point is all around the fact a shocking error has cost us momentum that we were building. Same as every bastard match. Each of their goals was avoidable and it was player error that cost us NOT the formation. 1. Allen Running away from the ball, Woods standing like a statue and Butland Error 2. Butland Howler 3. Etebo Howler We are sucker punching ourselves. Off the back of this he then has gone on to blame an atmosphere still at the club that he thought had been removed, alluding to the fact some of the players heads may not be in it. What will be telling is the team selection tomorrow, I am as gutted and angry as the next guy, however we must give Jones a chance to turn it around. And that starts with pulling the plug on some of our team. Get them out of the firing line. Allen, Butland and now Batth are being slammed by our fans on Social, on here and even by the pundits. That is going to get in any players head when confidence is as low as it is at the moment. It's all tough at the moment, the last thing we need is character assassinations of a bright young British manager as well, bought in to try and steer the sinking tank around, some of the things I have read the last few days on social, here and in the media regarding the manager of our team have actually disgusted me. I genuinely think some of you on here enjoy moaning, and being negative. But the feeling in the stands is clearly the same as the feeling on the pitch, and it is that that is Jones' biggest task in turning around now. Because the players and the system on the pitch should be a game for any team in this league. Well said.
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 23, 2019 8:30:22 GMT
Exactly blame the formation blame the manager blame everything bar the wankness of our players. The may train fucking brilliantly all week Butland saves everything then come game time boom cluster fuck time how in God's earth is he to blame for that. They all assume they are just as wank in training and he still picks the wankers players. I’m beyond giving a shit about what they are like in training. It’s what they are doing on the pitch and he’s still picking them. He’s not even picking the players he bought so why did he by them? It’s not his fault Butland is in poor form but there’s a hell of a lot of other alarm bells ringing and the buck stops somewhere. Ah so like I said, so why train let's just pick any old side. Not who is performing in training lol
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 23, 2019 8:31:45 GMT
I wasn't on about just this interview, he's right about the 8 mins to a point as SCFC92 says we were gaining momentum and to concede so early in games it completely fucks you over, the game plan pretty much goes out of the window and its been down to the players every time, show me a goal we have conceded this season that was well worked and a bit of great play and wasn't a fault of the players. But it doesn’t need to be a great bit of play and people are making mistakes but every team is biding their time because they know we are wide open We're wide open because the players aren't doing their job, you can use any formation you want but if they don't track their man or just stand there and watch the ball then nothing will work, I'm as frustrated as the next man but do you really think that Jones is asking them to do things like what Allen did for the first goal the other night or telling them to let the ball bounce instead of doing basic simple things.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 8:32:45 GMT
But it doesn’t need to be a great bit of play and people are making mistakes but every team is biding their time because they know we are wide open We're wide open because the players aren't doing their job, you can use any formation you want but if they don't track their man or just stand there and watch the ball then nothing will work, I'm as frustrated as the next man but do you really think that Jones is asking them to do things like what Allen did for the first goal the other night or telling them to let the ball bounce instead of doing basic simple things. Of course not but neither has he switched things or changed things or sorted it out and that's his job.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 23, 2019 8:35:25 GMT
Exactly blame the formation blame the manager blame everything bar the wankness of our players. The may train fucking brilliantly all week Butland saves everything then come game time boom cluster fuck time how in God's earth is he to blame for that. They all assume they are just as wank in training and he still picks the wankers players. I’m beyond giving a shit about what they are like in training. It’s what they are doing on the pitch and he’s still picking them. He’s not even picking the players he bought so why did he by them? It’s not his fault Butland is in poor form but there’s a hell of a lot of other alarm bells ringing and the buck stops somewhere. Its been 4 games, its not half a season, he still needs to see if they figure it out in the end or if they start doing the basics, I think its pretty clear now that some of them won't or aren't capable and he needs to start changing it, no he's not using all of them but that doesn't mean they weren't needed, its about competition, we needed a right back for example but I'd still want Edwards starting regardless as I felt he did well enough last season to keep his place.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 23, 2019 8:38:55 GMT
We're wide open because the players aren't doing their job, you can use any formation you want but if they don't track their man or just stand there and watch the ball then nothing will work, I'm as frustrated as the next man but do you really think that Jones is asking them to do things like what Allen did for the first goal the other night or telling them to let the ball bounce instead of doing basic simple things. Of course not but neither has he switched things or changed things or sorted it out and that's his job. He has changed it in parts but he does need to be more drastic I think, Woods hasn't played badly and I can see why he wants to use him but he's useless without the ball, personally I'd replace him with Cousins, not the best on the ball but will do the dirty work and thats what we need from our DM right now, I think the entire midfield 4 needs a rethink tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 8:40:08 GMT
I’m beyond giving a shit about what they are like in training. It’s what they are doing on the pitch and he’s still picking them. He’s not even picking the players he bought so why did he by them? It’s not his fault Butland is in poor form but there’s a hell of a lot of other alarm bells ringing and the buck stops somewhere. Its been 4 games, its not half a season, he still needs to see if they figure it out in the end or if they start doing the basics, I think its pretty clear now that some of them won't or aren't capable and he needs to start changing it, no he's not using all of them but that doesn't mean they weren't needed, its about competition, we needed a right back for example but I'd still want Edwards starting regardless as I felt he did well enough last season to keep his place. In 8 months we have, overall, been worse. He promised to buy players that were better than what we had and he hasn't - they are not even playing. I don't really understand how its justifiable. In his system we can have only one of Ince, Duffy or Powell playing. You can't change every game, you need some continuity. The squad he's built is entirely unbalanced. You just have to look at the list. It doesn't even make sense. On the RB situation. Yeah, we needed a back up - our highest spend over the Summer should not have been on a very average right back.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 23, 2019 8:45:33 GMT
Its been 4 games, its not half a season, he still needs to see if they figure it out in the end or if they start doing the basics, I think its pretty clear now that some of them won't or aren't capable and he needs to start changing it, no he's not using all of them but that doesn't mean they weren't needed, its about competition, we needed a right back for example but I'd still want Edwards starting regardless as I felt he did well enough last season to keep his place. In 8 months we have, overall, been worse. He promised to buy players that were better than what we had and he hasn't - they are not even playing. I don't really understand how its justifiable. In his system we can have only one of Ince, Duffy or Powell playing. You can't change every game, you need some continuity. The squad he's built is entirely unbalanced. You just have to look at the list. It doesn't even make sense. On the RB situation. Yeah, we needed a back up - our highest spend over the Summer should not have been on a very average right back. I agree we need some consistency but we also need to see who's capable, you can only learn so much in pre-season, with the three you mention one isn't match fit and the other has been injured, I don't think Ince was ever meant to be the first choice number 10, it was always going to take a few games to figure it out and up front we very nearly have and that was after one game now its time to restructure the midfield, once we have the right balance I think we'll do well but he does need to find some bollocks somewhere and drop the names, they clearly aren't working.
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