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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 22:13:47 GMT
Talk of a new manager seems all the rage atm, and whilst i cant see the board getting rid of jones, surely danny cowley is worth a shout, done a great job at lincoln, 2 promotions on his cv and has a great record in the cup showing he can adapt tactically. It quite spookily sounds like he is talking about us 👀
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 22:13:56 GMT
We won’t be paying compensation again for a manager after Rowett and Jones that I’m certain of, so for me it will be approach Hughton (rejects job), approach Moyes (rejects job), appoint Monk. Why would Hughton reject the job? He's not going to attract a club higher than the Championship Budget will be far bigger here than Huddersfield or Wednesday With 40 games left he'd back himself to get Stoke comfortable at least. Think he'd jump at it. Agree Moyes would probably decline it Because he has another couple of years on a Premier League managers salary in theory so he can afford to be pickier than usual.....
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 31, 2019 22:14:19 GMT
We won’t be paying compensation again for a manager after Rowett and Jones that I’m certain of, so for me it will be approach Hughton (rejects job), approach Moyes (rejects job), appoint Monk. Why would Hughton reject the job? He's not going to attract a club higher than the Championship Budget will be far bigger here than Huddersfield or Wednesday With 40 games left he'd back himself to get Stoke comfortable at least. Think he'd jump at it. Agree Moyes would probably decline it Nail on head
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 22:17:26 GMT
Would most supporters back another manager from the lower league's? I think it’s too much right now but possibly at the end of the season. I would prefer an experienced short term option to stabilise and then look to build on it in the summer. Quite frankly, I agree with March that TP until the end of the season then he goes upstairs is a good plan. I’d happily then take the Cowley brothers at the end of the season if I knew TP was upstairs to advise and be the experienced head.
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Post by stokeykez on Aug 31, 2019 22:22:53 GMT
In complete turmoil with scfc atm. We do not have time to sit and wait for NJ to improve, it is not working and whilst we are only 4 points off safety this should be bringing huge alarm bells.
Think the club desperately needs a period of stability, you would hope that TP would bring that to the club, some of these players I feel would benefit from rule of fear from his management style. To bring this style I would prefer warnock's however he wouldn't leave Cardiff mid season.
I would like to see hughton come in, knows the new tech director who is coming in.
The board must be decisive, unfortunately they dont have the ability to.
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Post by andycooke96 on Aug 31, 2019 22:34:45 GMT
Talk of a new manager seems all the rage atm, and whilst i cant see the board getting rid of jones, surely danny cowley is worth a shout, done a great job at lincoln, 2 promotions on his cv and has a great record in the cup showing he can adapt tactically. Jones Mk 2. We need a miracle worker not another one of these. Hes turned lincoln around, fa cup quarter finals with a non league side,almost took braintree to the football league, 2 promotions with lincoln, sounds like a miracle worker to me
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Post by andycooke96 on Aug 31, 2019 22:36:00 GMT
Having lived in Lincoln for the last 18 years and watched how the whole club has reinvented itself ( the match day experience is light years beyond ours) I would take the Cowleys in a heart beat Their atmosphere is one of the best around, do you think theyd leave lincoln though
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Aug 31, 2019 22:40:24 GMT
Cowley sounds pretty similar to NJ in terms of his values and ideas about connecting the football club. It's a shame it isn't working here, a couple of lucky wins and we could have been well away this year. Fine margins. The saddest thing for me is seeing him potentially go out with the crap, devoid of ideas rowett front 6 that we know doesn't work. If he's gonmna fail it should at least be from doing it the way he wanted.
Does anybody know anything about Lincoln's style of play? Do they know how to use substitutes?
We need a manager that will try and play football, not a dinosaur, with the squad we have. What would Pulis do with Duffy, Verlinden, Powell and ince?
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Post by Gob Bluth on Aug 31, 2019 22:43:42 GMT
I’d like someone with a track record of getting the most out of a shit squad because that’s where we are. I don’t want philosophies or someone that needs to sign 22 players for everything to be right.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 22:52:59 GMT
Cowley sounds pretty similar to NJ in terms of his values and ideas about connecting the football club. It's a shame it isn't working here, a couple of lucky wins and we could have been well away this year. Fine margins. The saddest thing for me is seeing him potentially go out with the crap, devoid of ideas rowett front 6 that we know doesn't work. If he's gonmna fail it should at least be from doing it the way he wanted. Does anybody know anything about Lincoln's style of play? Do they know how to use substitutes? We need a manager that will try and play football, not a dinosaur, with the squad we have. What would Pulis do with Duffy, Verlinden, Powell and ince? Nathan Jones is entirely out for himself and has waffles on about the area because he thought it would make him popular. All Nathan Jones cares about is Nathan Jones.
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Post by FrankButcher on Aug 31, 2019 22:57:03 GMT
Having lived in Lincoln for the last 18 years and watched how the whole club has reinvented itself ( the match day experience is light years beyond ours) I would take the Cowleys in a heart beat Their atmosphere is one of the best around, do you think theyd leave lincoln though No. They'd see how it's turned out for jones and stay where they are.
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Post by chrisgal on Aug 31, 2019 23:04:32 GMT
You can bring in any manager you want but the fact of the matter is that we have a squad of players that in general are not good enough. Jones has bought on 10 players and none have impressed. Every man and his dog has known that for the last 3 years we have needed a left back, more pace and someone with a bit of creativity and the last 2 managers have not delivered.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 23:07:55 GMT
You can bring in any manager you want but the fact of the matter is that we have a squad of players that in general are not good enough. Jones has bought on 10 players and none have impressed. Every man and his dog has known that for the last 3 years we have needed a left back, more pace and someone with a bit of creativity and the last 2 managers have not delivered. They are fine for this level. Agreed the recruitment hasn’t made us better but a good manager should be able to get something out these players. Let’s at least try it before throwing them under the bus. They have all managed it at other clubs (bar Lindsay).
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Post by chrisgal on Aug 31, 2019 23:12:54 GMT
You can bring in any manager you want but the fact of the matter is that we have a squad of players that in general are not good enough. Jones has bought on 10 players and none have impressed. Every man and his dog has known that for the last 3 years we have needed a left back, more pace and someone with a bit of creativity and the last 2 managers have not delivered. They are fine for this level. Agreed the recruitment hasn’t made us better but a good manager should be able to get something out these players. Let’s at least try it before throwing them under the bus. They have all managed it at other clubs (bar Lindsay). If you think they are fine at this level then you have been watching different players to me. I have been watching Stoke since the late sixties and for the last couple of years the team has been as bad as it gets.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 23:17:47 GMT
They are fine for this level. Agreed the recruitment hasn’t made us better but a good manager should be able to get something out these players. Let’s at least try it before throwing them under the bus. They have all managed it at other clubs (bar Lindsay). If you think they are fine at this level then you have been watching different players to me. I have been watching Stoke since the late sixties and for the last couple of years the team has been as bad as it gets. There is not a chance that the 20 odd players we have are this bad. Fuck knows if the do any defensive training but we are certainly not playing to their strengths. We have Ince, Duffy and Powell and Verlinden, with have Nathan Collins, Bruno, Etebo, Campbell, Gregory. We should have enough for someone whose not an absolute raving lunatic to form something resembling a football team.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 23:23:24 GMT
It hurts to say but I think there is a real chance the players we have aren't as good, primarily collectively but also individually, than 20 teams in this division. We are slow, have no ball speed, not decisive in defence and absolutely shot to bits confidence wise. No fight whatsoever. We've finally shipped out as much as the bomb squad as possible for 'out of sight, out of mind' but I get the feeling we have another bomb squad running around Clayton Wood.
I am serious, 21st will do this season. I'm not sure Jones can do that. I'm also not sure we have the team to do that.
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Post by chrisgal on Aug 31, 2019 23:49:24 GMT
It hurts to say but I think there is a real chance the players we have aren't as good, primarily collectively but also individually, than 20 teams in this division. We are slow, have no ball speed, not decisive in defence and absolutely shot to bits confidence wise. No fight whatsoever. We've finally shipped out as much as the bomb squad as possible for 'out of sight, out of mind' but I get the feeling we have another bomb squad running around Clayton Wood. I am serious, 21st will do this season. I'm not sure Jones can do that. I'm also not sure we have the team to do that. Not a million miles away from my thoughts. I really don’t understand these people that say on paper we are a great side when we clearly are a very poor side both on paper and on the pitch.
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Post by hyaduck on Aug 31, 2019 23:49:54 GMT
We haven’t looked at a foreign coach for a while, British coaches seem prehistoric with their methods of playing football. Several people mention Pulis, that performance today had Pulis written all over it. We have lacked pace and creativity since the season before we were relegated, we need a manager who knows what to do with the small amount of pace and creativity we have. A coach who has the ability to move the ball quickly not get to the half way line and think right what next, don’t know let’s pass it back and have another go. I can’t see any British coach out there who has that technical ability to give us what we want with the squad we have. I don’t know what foreign coaches are available and whether the board have the bottle to try a foreign coach or if we have a scout who can spot what we’re after.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 31, 2019 23:53:08 GMT
TP for me! He seems the only one able to manage this club! We certainly wouldn't go down if TP came in now, but for every game with NJ the inevitable gets closer I'm afraid!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 23:54:04 GMT
We haven’t looked at a foreign coach for a while, British coaches seem prehistoric with their methods of playing football. Several people mention Pulis, that performance today had Pulis written all over it. We have lacked pace and creativity since the season before we were relegated, we need a manager who knows what to do with the small amount of pace and creativity we have. A coach who has the ability to move the ball quickly not get to the half way line and think right what next, don’t know let’s pass it back and have another go. I can’t see any British coach out there who has that technical ability to give us what we want with the squad we have. I don’t know what foreign coaches are available and whether the board have the bottle to try a foreign coach or if we have a scout who can spot what we’re after. There is no manager who can get what you want with the squad we have. Get real here. Also it wasn’t a Pulis performance because we wouldn’t have conceded two goals from shoddy defending. We can’t even pass the ball to each other, everyone is running around the pitch like headless chickens. You need to grasp the reality of the situation rather than thinking we’re going to be the next Barcelona.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 31, 2019 23:58:15 GMT
We haven’t looked at a foreign coach for a while, British coaches seem prehistoric with their methods of playing football. Several people mention Pulis, that performance today had Pulis written all over it. We have lacked pace and creativity since the season before we were relegated, we need a manager who knows what to do with the small amount of pace and creativity we have. A coach who has the ability to move the ball quickly not get to the half way line and think right what next, don’t know let’s pass it back and have another go. I can’t see any British coach out there who has that technical ability to give us what we want with the squad we have. I don’t know what foreign coaches are available and whether the board have the bottle to try a foreign coach or if we have a scout who can spot what we’re after. There is no manager who can get what you want with the squad we have. Get real here. Also it wasn’t a Pulis performance because we wouldn’t have conceded two goals from shoddy defending. We can’t even pass the ball to each other, everyone is running around the pitch like headless chickens. You need to grasp the reality of the situation rather than thinking we’re going to be the next Barcelona. TP will certainly make us stay up with this squad! He knows what it takes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 0:00:46 GMT
There is no manager who can get what you want with the squad we have. Get real here. Also it wasn’t a Pulis performance because we wouldn’t have conceded two goals from shoddy defending. We can’t even pass the ball to each other, everyone is running around the pitch like headless chickens. You need to grasp the reality of the situation rather than thinking we’re going to be the next Barcelona. TP will certainly make us stay up with this squad! He knows what it takes. I never thought I’d be asking for him back but I totally agree. He’s the only one I’d trust 100 per cent. To fix the mess. It wouldn’t be pretty. But at the end of the day you only need to score one more of than the other side and we can’t afford for this rot to continue.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 1, 2019 0:13:11 GMT
The answer is TP!
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 1, 2019 0:16:00 GMT
Our team would look twice as solid if someone could persuade N'Diaye to give us the season. That should be a factor in the next choice of manager.
Butland Edwards Collins BMI Ward Ince Etebo N'Diaye Clucas Powell Hogan
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 1, 2019 0:18:07 GMT
Talk of a new manager seems all the rage atm, and whilst i cant see the board getting rid of jones, surely danny cowley is worth a shout, done a great job at lincoln, 2 promotions on his cv and has a great record in the cup showing he can adapt tactically. It quite spookily sounds like he is talking about us 👀 Sounds like another blagger.
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Post by hyaduck on Sept 1, 2019 0:23:32 GMT
Having Pulis back would rid us of any bit of creativity the team has. I agree he would probably sought the defence out but having him back, give me strength.
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Post by realstokebloke on Sept 1, 2019 0:26:00 GMT
< This bloke please.
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 1, 2019 4:55:54 GMT
Talk of a new manager seems all the rage atm, and whilst i cant see the board getting rid of jones, surely danny cowley is worth a shout, done a great job at lincoln, 2 promotions on his cv and has a great record in the cup showing he can adapt tactically. Under normal circumstances, yes. This isn't normal though- we're an absolute basketcase at the moment: a bloated squad comprising three different managers' pathetic signings, a cocktail of Premier League egos, wet-behind-the-ears youngsters and lower league shit, none of whom have any confidence whatsoever. It needs an experienced, older head who'll instantly command respect and will know how to handle a toxic dressing room. That's why I think Hughton and Pulis are the only two I'd consider for the job. 99/100 at any club, given the choice between Cowley and TP, I wouldn't even bother giving the Capped Crusader an interview. Here though, it's crisis management- and Cowley won't have experienced that before, the same as Jones clearly hasn't.
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Post by liam007 on Sept 1, 2019 5:12:19 GMT
It's September 1st and i'm already thinking we are in a relegation battle,our goal difference is shocking already and a win in our next game will not get us out of the bottom 3.This is a shocking start that needs halting before we get cut adrift.For me personally i would get on the phone to Pulis and if he fancied it get rid of Jones today.I could take a season of TP but can't take much more of Jones who is taking us down.
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Post by zerps on Sept 1, 2019 5:24:26 GMT
Give it to John Walters. Fuck it.
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